Paul - An Apostle?

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Was Paul really a true Christian, and apostle, as the scriptures say?
What do you believe, and does your belief agree with the scriptures?

Yes I believe he is. He calls Jesus the Christ.

I believe Paul is an apostle with a small A. He is not one of the original twelve. He was called to serve by Jesus and sent out by the church at Antioch.

 

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acts 13

Right, Paul said Paul was an apostle.

I knew a guy who said he was a ninja. I don’t think he was a ninja.

Acts 13:2.

 

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Paul was the only apostle to have written anything down. Paul's epistles are the oldest known Christian writings we have, they predate the gospels, which are works of fiction and possibly based at least in part on Paul's apostleship.

I believe that is folderal. All the Bible is inspired by God.

 

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Yes I believe he is. He calls Jesus the Christ.

I believe Paul is an apostle with a small A. He is not one of the original twelve. He was called to serve by Jesus and sent out by the church at Antioch.

Only 12 Apostles are allowed. People cannot call themselves apostle because they desire the respect of the title. If more than 12 Apostles were allowed by Jesus then not just Matthias would have the title Apostle but also the other man that was worthy of the title, Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus would have it. Joseph "Barsabas" Justus is not an Apostle but is a faithful disciple.
Paul gave himself the title Apostle and to make people believe it, lied saying it was given to him by Jesus. Paul is a Pharisee supporting Pharisee beliefs not a disciple of Jesus supporting what Jesus taught. Paul did not even know the sermons of Jesus and had to ask the true Apostles what the opinion of Jesus on doctrine was. Then when told by the real Apostles, Paul taught the opposite because Paul did not accept what Jesus taught. Paul claims conversion but by not following what Jesus taught, proves he did not convert and prefers the concept of a Jewish Christ taught by Pharisees, the son of Abraham Christ. The Christ Jesus, Son of God, is not a son of Abraham and Jesus called the men that believed the Christ has to be a son of Abraham, "vipers".
Sons of Abraham are killers of people that do not believe their doctrine.
John 8:15
"Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man."
Jesus never kills anyone for not believing his doctrine.
"16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me. "
People lose their eternal life if they do not believe Jesus, but Jesus does not kill anyone and that is why Jesus said he does not "judge" meaning in the definition of passing a death penalty to cut a person's life short for not believing him. People are allowed by God their entire natural life to find the truth and convert. They receive the same reward of salvation as those that understood and converted early in life. Jesus does judge right from wrong however so that "judgement is true" in that he knows a person that supports false doctrine when he sees one and calls them sinners.
Matthias is the last Apostle approved by Jesus. Anyone else that claims the title are lying to exalt their own ego and desire to sway the beliefs of people into believing what they think, not what Jesus established as truth from God.

 

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acts 13

Acts 13:2.

Acts is like a forum where followers of Jesus present their doctrine and those that do not present theirs.
Paul claims he is filled with Holy Ghost. A person that is actually filled with Holy Ghost does not demand the death of Jesus. Not one of the disciples of Jesus believed Jesus should die and the Apostles were strongly against it because they had Holy Ghost. People of God by the voice of Jesus Christ, do not threaten to kill Jesus nor do they agree he should die. Saul called Paul is not chosen by God and desires Jesus to die because the word of God is not in Saul/Paul. The church, which is a word for assembly, at Antioch is one that supports Pharisee beliefs of human sacrifice so is a church called "inferior" by the true church because that church that supports human sacrifice is filled with lies about God. Paul is crafty when he boldly claims his lies "glorify God" and wants to know why he is called a sinner for it. That Saul= Paul is filled with Holy Ghost is just one more of Paul's lies he thinks glorifies God.
So this story in Acts 13:2 is Paul's story of what happened, and Paul /Saul is a self righteous Pharisee that believes in human sacrifice to a God.
This is Jesus's opinion of Paul,
Matthew 23:13
But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.'
Woe to the scribes that write what Paul says is truth if they believe it is true.
Jesus supports freedom of speech absolutely, but he did not support believing in lies written as truth.
Paul said that he is a son of Abraham.
John 8:37
I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you."
In Galatians 3:7, Paul, writing to Gentiles, says, “Know then that it is those of faith who are the sons of Abraham”
Paul wants people to have faith in human sacrifice to a God like Paul does because those are the people of God according to Paul. People that agree Jesus should die for sins he did not commit are doing the works of Abraham, the devil that kills to exalt himself to a throne of rule and enslaves people because of it. Abraham desired slaves and attained them by war and threat of war making people surrender their God given right to life and self-rule. Jesus taught Abraham had no God given right to own a slave. Human life is never to be bought or sold. But Paul claims your salvation was "Purchased" with the death of Jesus. No it was not, people of God do not buy human life claiming the right to kill that person and then call themselves innocent of the murder.

 

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I believe that is folderal. All the Bible is inspired by God.

Yes, all the Bible is inspired by God but a Father (God) teaching His children to learn the difference between right and wrong must also explain and present what is wrong, and the Bible does that. Judas was not left out of the Bible because he lost his Apostleship and should not be followed. God desires people to think about why Judas lost his Apostleship and why what Judas did is evil. The Bible is not just about good people, the Bible also presents evil people and their beliefs and how their actions changed history and how those evil actions will shape the future.
Paul is not an Apostle. People did believe in owning human slaves with the right to kill them if they wanted to and killing a human as a sacrifice to their God long before Jesus and his Apostles and John the Baptist existed to teach those people they have no God given right to believe in that.
God never desired children to be burned alive or people to be stoned to death for adultery. Adultery is a sin but not a death penalty sin as it can be forgiven allowing the people to live. Note David (Paul supports David) demanded to be free of the laws he imposed on his people. By the laws that David claims are from God then David without mercy or forgiveness should have been stoned to death for adultery. But David had an army that would kill anyone that opposed what David did and the people knew it, so David had no death sentence as David did any sin he pleased while his people were treated as slaves serving sin forced to stone people to death and keep David rich with money for blood sacrifices. David murdered his own son, that behaved like David did proving David had no skills to raise a righteous son, to keep his son from having the throne.
Paul robbing churches would have destroyed the written words of disciples of Jesus because those words did not support the laws and doctrine that Paul upheld. Paul broke into homes to accomplish that destruction. Again, the Bible is not the Torah and the tyranny of Abraham with the man-made laws of Moses that claim a Jew has the right to own a slave and blood sacrifice removes sin existed on Earth before Jesus was sent to stop belief in them. The truth that the sons of Abraham obeying Abraham's dictates should never have developed false religious beliefs existed first. Before Abraham existed, the truth against him existed. The doctrine of Jesus was kept alive by conversation passed to disciples.

 

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Truth is the "key" given to Peter and truth is the same in heaven and on Earth, truth binds everything as it is reality not a fabricated lie the throne of David is built upon to deceive people. Christianity is not built on the beliefs of the Jews other than the fact Jesus was sent to the Jews to destroy the concept of Mount Zion, causing it to not be believed. The word Zion is never used by Jesus or his followers in the NT because it is not a basis of the true religion based on Truth, the key to understanding.
Only the Hebrew/Jews believe in Zion. The word Zion is used once in Revelation because that false belief of the Jews is a cause ( not the only cause but a main one) of nuclear world war. Jesus never called himself a Lamb because he is not one. He said he is the Shepherd sent to save Lambs from being killed, stop belief in sacrifice. The Shepherd never morphs into a Lamb and he remains the Shepherd always. That Jesus is a Lamb is a lie believed by people that believe in Zion supporting that religious/political concept.
Understand the "Father" that created the belief of Lamb sacrifice in the religion he created is Abraham. Pharisee Paul tells people that Abraham is the father of us all. Jesus said that is not true, Abraham is the father of the lie and people that teach those lies as truth are "vipers". What comes out of the mouth of vipers kills people. Abraham was "slain" from the beginning of his false religion because God never accepted Abraham's concept of law or religion. The lies of "Father" Abraham, that established the basis of 3 false religions today, lead to the final nuclear war on Earth.
So people do not know what they are doing when they think Rev 14:1 is referencing Jesus Christ our savior as the Lamb. The words of Jesus are he is the Shepherd and Jesus asked, "why can you not hear my words?"
Did Moses receive the covenant gift of the promised land? No, he did not because it does not exist. There is no covenant between Abraham and God except in the minds of the deceived by vipers.

So, you are saying that Yeshua didn't come to fulfill the "Law and the Prophets", and that it will remain in place as long as you have heaven and earth per Matthew 5:17-18. Seems like a slightly different take than that of the false prophet Paul, whose viewpoint was that the law was nailed to cross, and it was simply there to point out sin, so that he could blame his sinning on the evil within himself (Romans 7:16-20). And what "truth" did this Peter fellow present to you, other than someone calling themselves Peter, said Paul was his brother?

As for Zion not being in the NT, is Revelation not found in the NT? And in Matthew & John, Yeshua quotes from the Law and the Prophets. Why would he do so, if it is all false? I would be interested in knowing which sect of "Christianity" you belong. Help bring light to the world and let us know.

2) Revelation 14:1 “Then I looked, and behold, on Mount Zion stood the Lamb, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads.”

 

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So, you are saying that Yeshua didn't come to fulfill the "Law and the Prophets", and that it will remain in place as long as you have heaven and earth per Matthew 5:17-18. Seems like a slightly different take than that of the false prophet Paul, whose viewpoint was that the law was nailed to cross, and it was simply there to point out sin, so that he could blame his sinning on the evil within himself (Romans 7:16-20). And what "truth" did this Peter fellow present to you, other than someone calling themselves Peter, said Paul was his brother?

As for Zion not being in the NT, is Revelation not found in the NT? And in Matthew & John, Yeshua quotes from the Law and the Prophets. Why would he do so, if it is all false? I would be interested in knowing which sect of "Christianity" you belong. Help bring light to the world and let us know.

2) Revelation 14:1 “Then I looked, and behold, on Mount Zion stood the Lamb, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads.”

I am saying the word Zion never came from Jesus in his NT gospel, he never taught it nor does he believe in it. Jesus does not represent it. I explained the NT Rev prophecy that uses the word Zion has nothing to do with Jesus Christ our savior. Revelation reveals the end of days war and reveals the prince Jesus warns is coming that has nothing in him. Jesus is no longer speaking to people when that prince that claims to be the Christ arrives in Revelation. The John in Revelation is neither John the Baptist or Apostle John. There are many men with similar names in the Bible. Jesus even tells us that men would come using his name and so there are more than one false Jesus Christ in Revelation. You either believe in the virgin birth of Jesus as the Son of God or you believe in the root of David Jesus because those 2 men are completely different men with different beliefs.
Our Savior, the true Christ Jesus, is NOT the root of David and spent a lot of effort explaining the Christ isn't to the temple. Jews denied Jesus is the Christ if Jesus denies he is a son of Abraham/ root of David and they want Jesus to DIE for saying the Christ they preach is not the true Christ. They wanted Jesus to die for blasphemy for saying the Christ is a son of God but not a son of David/Abraham.
So, understand, Revelation describes the final war fought by nations that support their own description of their Christ based on support of Abraham bloodline.
Rev. 22 :16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."
Churches=Assemblies= Nations of people with common beliefs. The angels a false Jesus sends are fallen angels supporting fallen doctrine. The false Christs lead people into war, the true Christ leads people away from war.
The last 2 verses of Revelation are speaking of our savior.
"He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen.
Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
21The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen."
Even though the final war on Earth comes quickly by the demands of false religions that claim they have a Christ that will cause them to prevail, prayer is that Lord Jesus our savior will come, even so, to Save us. The grace of Jesus is mercy and the men that support an Abrahamic bloodline war and killer Christ lack the mercy to even save themselves.
Jesus came to fulfill the laws of GOD not the religious laws of the Jews. Jews constantly threatened to stone Jesus to death for NOT obeying their laws. They wanted Jesus to die for teaching against the Abrahamic covenant. Jesus tells us that he is a prophet and also calls John the Baptist a prophet. The commands/laws of God are fulfilled in both of those men. The one that stands with John the Baptist is the Son of God that is both prophet because he knows what will happen in the future as he supports John and is more than a prophet because Jesus can heal the sick, raise the dead and hears the voice of God that he teaches so people can be saved.
Jesus denies being a king or a prince.
Matthew 11:8 But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? behold, they that wear soft clothing are in kings' houses.
9 But what went ye out for to see? A prophet? yea, I say unto you, and more than a prophet.
10 For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.
11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist:
So understand Luke 16:16, “The Law and the Prophets were proclaimed until John; since that time the gospel of the kingdom of God has been preached, and everyone is forcing his way into it.” The laws of Moses (many laws that Jesus refused to obey including inequality of race and gender and blood sacrifice) and Prophets that said Israel is the only people selected by God to rule WERE believed until the gospel of Jesus; equality of all races, equality of gender, and God given right to life with merciful water baptism for sin removal were preached. When people heard the truth from God then they pressed into the true religion forsaking the religion Abraham had created.

 

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I am saying the word Zion never came from Jesus in his NT gospel, he never taught it nor does he believe in it. Jesus does not represent it. I explained the NT Rev prophecy that uses the word Zion has nothing to do with Jesus Christ our savior. Revelation reveals the end of days war and reveals the prince Jesus warns is coming that has nothing in him. Jesus is no longer speaking to people when that prince that claims to be the Christ arrives in Revelation. The John in Revelation is neither John the Baptist or Apostle John. There are many men with similar names in the Bible. Jesus even tells us that men would come using his name and so there are more than one false Jesus Christ in Revelation. You either believe in the virgin birth of Jesus as the Son of God or you believe in the root of David Jesus because those 2 men are completely different men with different beliefs.
Our Savior, the true Christ Jesus, is NOT the root of David and spent a lot of effort explaining the Christ isn't to the temple. Jews denied Jesus is the Christ if Jesus denies he is a son of Abraham/ root of David and they want Jesus to DIE for saying the Christ they preach is not the true Christ. They wanted Jesus to die for blasphemy for saying the Christ is a son of God but not a son of David/Abraham.
So, understand, Revelation describes the final war fought by nations that support their own description of their Christ based on support of Abraham bloodline.
Rev. 22 :16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."
Churches=Assemblies= Nations of people with common beliefs. The angels a false Jesus sends are fallen angels supporting fallen doctrine. The false Christs lead people into war, the true Christ leads people away from war.
The last 2 verses of Revelation are speaking of our savior.
"He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen.
Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
21The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen."
Even though the final war on Earth comes quickly by the demands of false religions that claim they have a Christ that will cause them to prevail, prayer is that Lord Jesus our savior will come, even so, to Save us. The grace of Jesus is mercy and the men that support an Abrahamic bloodline war and killer Christ lack the mercy to even save themselves.
Jesus came to fulfill the laws of GOD not the religious laws of the Jews. Jews constantly threatened to stone Jesus to death for NOT obeying their laws. They wanted Jesus to die for teaching against the Abrahamic covenant. Jesus tells us that he is a prophet and also calls John the Baptist a prophet. The commands/laws of God are fulfilled in both of those men. The one that stands with John the Baptist is the Son of God that is both prophet because he knows what will happen in the future as he supports John and is more than a prophet because Jesus can heal the sick, raise the dead and hears the voice of God that he teaches so people can be saved.
Jesus denies being a king or a prince.
Matthew 11:8 But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? behold, they that wear soft clothing are in kings' houses.
9 But what went ye out for to see? A prophet? yea, I say unto you, and more than a prophet.
10 For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.
11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist:
So understand Luke 16:16, “The Law and the Prophets were proclaimed until John; since that time the gospel of the kingdom of God has been preached, and everyone is forcing his way into it.” The laws of Moses (many laws that Jesus refused to obey including inequality of race and gender and blood sacrifice) and Prophets that said Israel is the only people selected by God to rule WERE believed until the gospel of Jesus; equality of all races, equality of gender, and God given right to life with merciful water baptism for sin removal were preached. When people heard the truth from God then they pressed into the true religion forsaking the religion Abraham had created.

In answer to the Question of Peter calling Paul "beloved brother", Jesus taught love of all people as equals so Peter was to call all men brother even those that trespassed against his doctrine. Peter questioned how many times he had to do that, and Jesus replied 70 x 7, meaning basically as many times as it takes to let the person know they will always be welcome to convert and join the true religion. Paul already had his own church with people paying Paul, so Paul had no interest in joining with Peter in the true church because Paul was the ruler of his own church, and he was not going to change that status one iota. Please notice that Paul never called Apostle Peter, "beloved brother".
Paul only showed affection for people that believed his lies were true and those people he would call beloved.

 

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So, you are saying that Yeshua didn't come to fulfill the "Law and the Prophets", and that it will remain in place as long as you have heaven and earth per Matthew 5:17-18. Seems like a slightly different take than that of the false prophet Paul, whose viewpoint was that the law was nailed to cross, and it was simply there to point out sin, so that he could blame his sinning on the evil within himself (Romans 7:16-20). And what "truth" did this Peter fellow present to you, other than someone calling themselves Peter, said Paul was his brother?

As for Zion not being in the NT, is Revelation not found in the NT? And in Matthew & John, Yeshua quotes from the Law and the Prophets. Why would he do so, if it is all false? I would be interested in knowing which sect of "Christianity" you belong. Help bring light to the world and let us know.

2) Revelation 14:1 “Then I looked, and behold, on Mount Zion stood the Lamb, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads.”

God brings light into the world (that was in the darkness created by false religions) by giving us Jesus Christ. I am a disciple of Jesus Christ, Son of God, that believes the words of Jesus and learned "what I desire mercy and not sacrifice means".

1 Peter 2:10
Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.
Matthew 12:7
But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless."
Believe Jesus should die for sins he did not commit because he is guiltless then the words of God are not in you.
Matthew 9:13
But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."
Water baptized disciples are righteous before God, sins forgiven but people that believe in animal or human sacrifice to attain righteousness have not obtained mercy and will die in their sins unless they repent and believe in water baptism removes sin. People are not disciples of Jesus unless they are able to see the truth, human sacrifice to a God is not only murder of the guiltless, but also demonic.

 

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God brings light into the world (that was in the darkness created by false religions) by giving us Jesus Christ. I am a disciple of Jesus Christ, Son of God, that believes the words of Jesus and learned "what I desire mercy and not sacrifice means".

1 Peter 2:10
Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.
Matthew 12:7
But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless."
Believe Jesus should die for sins he did not commit because he is guiltless then the words of God are not in you.
Matthew 9:13
But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."
Water baptized disciples are righteous before God, sins forgiven but people that believe in animal or human sacrifice to attain righteousness have not obtained mercy and will die in their sins unless they repent and believe in water baptism removes sin. People are not disciples of Jesus unless they are able to see the truth, human sacrifice to a God is not only murder of the guiltless, but also demonic.

When one posts very lengthy and multiple posts, I would suggest that most of us glance and move on. Let me recommend that you get to the point with as few words as possible and use paragraphs.

 

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When one posts very lengthy and multiple posts, I would suggest that most of us glance and move on. Let me recommend that you get to the point with as few words as possible and use paragraphs.

Understood thanks, but only those that seek truth find it. People glance and move on when they read the Bible and that is a reason, they do not hear the words of Jesus nor do they understand his doctrine.

 

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To be called an apostle? yes! absolutely!

This is your opinion yes? ...and not scripture. So, you do not believe the Bible... only what you want to, yes?

Your 'bible'? Not all of your books, that's for sure.
My 'bible' is the Tanakh (Torah-Prophets-Writings) plus Matthew. That's it, nothing else. .

Right. So you pick and choose what you like, yes?
Why Matthew, and not Luke, or any other of the Christian Greek scriptures? I am interested in knowing.

 

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The "liar", which apparently was Paul, is "reincarnated" in our day as the "demon" spirit of the "false prophet" (Revelation 16:13) who leads the kings/leaders of today. Funny or not, the liar, Paul, as well as the "worthless shepherd" (Zechariah 11:17), Peter, were foundational parts of the daughters of Babylon, the Roman and Protestant churches. These were the two horns like a lamb, such as Christ like leaders, who along with the beast, the Roman emperor Constantine, who were to "deceive" those who dwell on the earth (Revelation 13). The function of the demon spirit of the "false prophet", per Revelation 16:13, is to lead the "nations" against Jerusalem, in preparation for Har-Magedon (Revelation 16:16), now that Judah, the Jews, and Jerusalem have been restored (Joel 3:1-2), at the valley of judgment.

You clearly are no prophet, so I will stick with the true prophets... who disagree with you.

 

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It kind of depends on which interpretation you use. As many Protestants use the King James Bible, that would be a skewed defining of Romans 16:22, but more in line with modern versions such as "The New Living Translation", which seems written in an effort to form a "new" narrative.

New King James Version James 16:22
I, Tertius, who wrote this epistle, greet you in the Lord.

Well, you just pointed out clear evidence which should convince you of the truthfulness of the writers. They were honest... including Paul.
How do you plead?

 

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Paul slaughtered Christians and put them in prison for being followers of Jesus. He did it without mercy and without remorse so in no way is Paul a fine Christian. Once a murderer always a murderer and the lives of the innocent victims should be honored more than their killer. Paul should have been punished for his serial murders, placed in prison, but probably because of his wealth and high status somehow, he got away with it. It is possible he paid the secular court to look the other way. Paul was adept at paying money to remove responsibility for crimes as it was ingrained in his religious beliefs. Paul said he forgets about the people he apprehended. So their suffering means nothing to him.
John the Baptist is the finest Christian according to the voice of Jesus and Paul declares what John taught is meaningless because John taught water baptism removes sin but Paul teaches the death of an innocent life removes sin. Paul wants praise for the death of Jesus. No true Apostle wanted Jesus dead and Peter was even willing to fight to prevent it because Peter had learned what "I desire mercy and not sacrifice means". Jesus never said my death will save you.
Jesus told the Jews that if they want him to die then they do not love Jesus, do not love God and are not the people of God.
1 John 4:7
Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God."
If you love someone then you do not agree to his murder for crimes he did not commit. God commands do not kill.
John 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me." Note these men are sons of Abraham as is Paul. Paul easily could have been among these temple priests, threatening to kill Jesus, and they ARE doing the works of Abraham that threatened to kill an innocent man that welcomed Abraham into his home. Jesus said, I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. Understand that if you seek to kill Jesus, agreeing he should die then the word of God has no place in you.
"If God were your Father, ye would love me And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?"
In John 8 verse 56, Understand Abraham is dead and when Jesus says "my day" it is the day his sons kill Jesus which would make Abraham if he were alive rejoice because Abraham's lies are believed as truth and the truth taught by Jesus is destroyed. I AM is God and before the father of the lie that he is chosen of God existed, the Truth that Abraham is not chosen existed.
The bloodline covenant does not exist, Abraham lied when he said it does.
That is clear as to what Jesus thinks about killing him as a sacrifice. Do not believe it or approve of it. Water Baptism removes sin, believe that truth.
So, Paul's gospel is kill innocent Jesus for a reward. How could it be wonderful to follow a man that according to Jesus does not love Jesus, does not love God nor is he in the kingdom of God but is found in the house of Judas the betrayer of Jesus that helped to kill Jesus and lost his Apostleship for it. Paul gave himself the title of Apostle and he is not one. Judas lost his apostleship for agreeing to the death of Jesus. Paul is so crafty he gets people to believe he is an Apostle for agreeing Jesus should die and wants people to agree Jesus should die.

Please name one person that Paul murdered.

Also, I see you identify yourself as Christian. Is the Christian not supposed to love their enemies, and pray for their persecutors, as Jesus said? - Matthew 5:43-46

Didn't Stephen follow Jesus' example in this regard? - Acts 7:60

Should we not to the same... especially if we are truly Christian?
Jesus said some would act in ignorance.
(John 16:1-3) 1 “I have spoken these things to YOU that YOU may not be stumbled. 2 Men will expel YOU from the synagogue. In fact, the hour is coming when everyone that kills YOU will imagine he has rendered a sacred service to God. 3 But they will do these things because they have not come to know either the Father or me.

On repenting, they certainly have God's forgiveness, don't they.
(Luke 15:10) . . .I tell you, joy arises among the angels of God over one sinner who repents.”

True Christians forgive, as the early Christians did.
They follow Jesus example and teachings.
That's what makes a Christian, is that so?

 

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Really? Where? According to who... Paul?

According to Matthew. Actually, according to to Jesus' sheep... which includes Paul.
However, you said you don't believe them... not in those exact words.
So, I won't quote them, but that doesn't mean they didn't tell us.

(Matthew 6:14, 15) 14 “For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you; 15 whereas if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

 

[nPeace]

That's the way I see it. I frankly don't see why you don't see that. But if that's what you want to believe, it's yours. Paul was clearly forgiven by Jesus when he met Paul on the road to Damascus, because Paul obviously realized what he was doing in relation to Jesus. Jesus knew the personality and mindset of Paul when he approached him. And Paul stopped his activities against Jesus and evangelized about Jesus after that. Sorry you don't see that.

The thing is, that was reported by Luke... Not Paul... but the guy has chosen to ignore those Greek scriptures.
He says he only accepts Matthew.

 

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Paul LIED when he said he met Jesus on the road to Damascus in the desert. Jesus said he was not there and not to follow or believe anyone that tells us he was there.
Matthew 24:26
Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not."
The temple "secret chamber" is where blood sacrifices are made by a High Priest, so Jesus is saying he does not support blood sacrifice for sin so do not believe in it. Paul lied when he said Jesus was a High Priest that made a blood sacrifice because Jesus said he did not and do not believe that he did.
Speaking of Jesus in Hebrews 7 Paul said, "Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself." Paul is also calling Jesus a SINNER that had to die for his own sins first then as a sacrifice for other people. Jesus never made a Blood sacrifice for sin because God never accepted any blood sacrifice for sin. It was a false religious ritual that Hebrew/Jews did, and it never accomplished anything except having those people die in their sins. Killing a life does not remove sin. The blood of Jesus is alive blood and it is life, the words of God, I AM, that save not the murder of an innocent human or animal.
Paul lied when he said he had witnesses because he didn't. No one confirmed his light of Jesus story, Paul had no witness because it never happened, Paul made it up to establish a base he could build a church of lies upon so people would pay him to hear his lies about God. Jesus left Earth and is returning but once near the end of days to collect his followers and all eyes will see it.
Paul never stopped his activities against Jesus because Paul taught people to agree Jesus should die for sins he did not commit. Paul reversed the gospel Jesus taught so you either believe Paul or you believe Jesus because they are 2 completely different doctrines. Jesus does not approve of the inequality of race and gender and blood sacrifice for sin removal gospel of Paul. Jesus was destroying that mindset while he taught people to leave the Jewish temple. Paul slyly leads people right back to Paul's traditional beliefs, that Jesus was destroying with truth from God.

Actually, you are calling Luke a liar.
Luke said... "I resolved also, because I have traced all things from the start with accuracy, to write them to you in logical order, most excellent Theophilus, - Luke 1:3
Luke is the one who reported on the Acts of the apostles.

So if you don't even believe Luke, I am interested in knowing... why do you still have a Bible... and why do you call yourself a Christian?

 

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----so long have a nice day.

What have I started !!!? Lol
I think I'll leave those two to it.