Acts chapter 9 is the account about Pauls conversion, it was written by the Apostle Luke.
It was Jesus himself who commissioned Paul as the account of Luke states:
Acts 9:10 There was a disciple named An·a·niʹas+ in Damascus, and the Lord said to him in a vision: “An·a·niʹas!” He said: “Here I am, Lord.” 11 The Lord said to him: “Get up, go to the street called Straight, and look for a man named Saul, from Tarsus,+ at the house of Judas. For look! he is praying, 12 and in a vision he has seen a man named An·a·niʹas come in and lay his hands on him so that he may recover sight.”+13 But An·a·niʹas answered: “Lord, I have heard from many about this man, about all the harm he did to your holy ones in Jerusalem. 14 And here he has authority from the chief priests to arrest all those calling on your name.”+15 But the Lord said to him: “Go! because this man is a chosen vessel* to me+ to bear my name to the nations+ as well as to kings+ and the sons of Israel.
Paul saw his calling, not as one of the 12 apostles, but as an apostle to the nations and not as a replacement for Judas. Pauls writings always stipulate that he is an apostle 'to the nations' (Galatians 1:15-16; Galatians 2:7-8; Romans 1:5; 1Timothy 2:7
If a Christian is "one that listens to Jesus and believes what he said", then the rich young ruler (Mark 10:17-22) and the crowds that followed Jesus, are all Christians.
However, that's not what Jesus said. Rather, he said..."come be my follower. . ." (Mark 10:21) “If you remain in my word, you are really my disciples. . ." (John 8:31)
It's those who remain in Jesus teachings, and follow his example... that are truly Christian.
Many persons listened to Jesus, and believed him... thousands, but many, out of fear of the Jews, failed to act, on what he said.
Hence he said to them... "Furthermore, everyone hearing these sayings of mine and not doing them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand." (Matthew 7:26)
Paul admits he does not know what Jesus said and has to ask the true Apostles for answers. Paul preached in the desert for 3 years without Holy Spirit or any knowledge of the sermons of Jesus, as Paul refused to go to Jerusalem first, as required by Jesus, to receive Holy Spirit with knowledge. Note that Paul rejects the answers the Apostles give him and does exactly what Paul is told not to do, circumcise a person, a Greek. Galatians 5:11
And I, brethren, if I yet preach circumcision, why do I yet suffer persecution? then is the offence of the cross ceased."
Understand this! Paul does preach circumcision which is agreement to the Jewish blood sacrifice laws and professing the Christ comes from the seed of Abraham, a bloodline son of David. Saul/Paul said Jesus was an "offence" that needed to be killed because Jesus denied the Christ is of the bloodline of Abraham. Jews demanded Jesus die for opposing their bloodline beliefs. There would be no reason to kill Jesus if Jesus would just say he is a son of Abraham, supporting circumcision so the offence of the cross would cease, and they would stop threatening to kill him.
To believe in circumcision as a religious ritual is a denial of a virgin birth of Christ, son of God.
Oh... dear... me.
You never did say how many times you have read the Bible. Did you actually complete reading it more than once?
Have you read through it, at least more than half a dozen times?
Based on your "knowledge" of the Bible, as demonstrated here, I am now wondering about some other things.
Have you been associated with 'Christianity' for some time?
I know these may seem like personal question, but based on what you said here, it's quite ... interesting.
It would be interesting to meet you.. and talking to you as well, I think.
Look at the scripture again...
(Galatians 5:2-9) 2 See! I, Paul, am telling you that if you become circumcised, Christ will be of no benefit to you. 3 Again I bear witness to every man who gets circumcised that he is under obligation to keep the whole Law. 4 You are separated from Christ, you who are trying to be declared righteous by means of law; you have fallen away from his undeserved kindness. 5 For our part, we are by spirit eagerly waiting for the hoped-for righteousness resulting from faith. 6 For in union with Christ Jesus, neither circumcision nor uncircumcision is of any value, but faith operating through love is. 7 You were running well. Who hindered you from continuing to obey the truth? 8 This sort of persuasion does not come from the One calling you. 9 A little leaven ferments the whole batch of dough.
Read it again, according to what you suggested... carefully.
Then ask yourself, "Is Paul preaching circumcision? If you still think so, I suggest you read it more carefully. It could be you went a bit fast, and perhaps didn't think on it.
Paul said...
if you become circumcised, Christ will be of no benefit to you
I bear witness to every man who gets circumcised that he is under obligation to keep the whole Law
You are separated from Christ, you who are trying to be declared righteous by means of law; you have fallen away from his undeserved kindness
For in union with Christ Jesus, neither circumcision nor uncircumcision is of any value, but faith operating through love is
You were running well. Who hindered you from continuing to obey the truth? This sort of persuasion does not come from the One calling you
What persuasion is that?
It would help to read from Chapter 3 of Galatians.
It should be clear to anyone reading Paul's letter here, that Paul is discouraging persons from seeking to be found righteous by carrying out the Mosaic Law... including circumcision.
In other words, Paul is not preaching circumcision.
With those verses in mind, read Galatians 5:11 again. Brothers and sisters, if I am still preaching that circumcision is necessary, why am I still being persecuted? In that case the cross wouldn't be offensive anymore.
It makes a whole lot of sense now, doesn't it? I hope.
Paul is saying, in other words... If I were still preaching circumcision, the Jews would not persecute me, but because I preach the 'cross' - that is, salvation, not by works of law, but grace by faith, I am being persecuted by the Jews - those who hold on to the law, which was nailed to the 'cross'.
I really hope you got that. Really... I do, because your post revealed a lot about you Triumph.
The true church persecuted Paul for telling people Jesus was a son of Abraham because Jesus denied he was. They called Paul a sinner for lying. Joseph did not beget Jesus and Matthew chapter 1 states that fact. Jews only perceive Jesus as Christ if Jesus will say he is the begotten son of Joseph/David /Abraham. Joseph knows he did not beget Jesus, Jesus knows it, Mary knows it, the Angel that told Mary she will have a virgin birth knows it, but Paul refuses to believe it as Paul preaches circumcision.
You are saying that the Messiah is not the seed, or offspring of Abraham, simply because of not understand the scriptures, and that's quite understandable, considering that you reject what Paul says, but I would not expect you would understand what God revealed to his prophets, and how the Messiah fulfilled them. For all, the Prophets and the Law, prophesied until John... Matthew 11:13 And starting with Moses and all the Prophets, he interpreted to them things pertaining to himself in all the Scriptures. . . (Luke 24:27) . . . He then said to them: “These are my words that I spoke to you while I was yet with you, that all the things written about me in the Law of Moses and in the Prophets and Psalms must be fulfilled.” (Luke 24:44)
This is Jesus, speaking, and letting the people know that what was writen was about him would be fulfilled... in him.
So the letters of the apostles fills us in, on how they apply.
Paul tells us how God's purpose from Genesis unfolded. Genesis 3:15 ; Genesis 21:12 ; Genesis 22:18
Not only Paul, but Stephen did, as well. Acts 7. Peter did too. 1 Peter 1:10-12
Which reminds me, you were supposed to tell me all about the truth subsequent to Jesus' resurrection.and what the followers of Christ would be doing, and what they can expect, barring the 13 letters of Paul.... At least I asked, and was hoping you would respond.
Acts 14:14, Luke was not there to witness anything. Does scripture state Luke was there? No. The person that was there is Saul= Paul, the murderer of Christians, so it was Paul that told Luke what occurred. Luke just wrote what Paul told him to write as a scribe. Paul is a proven by scripture liar.
Bear in mind that you have not produced one scripture that supports what you are saying Triumph.
You are the one claiming Paul is a liar. Not the scriptures.
Not even Luke agrees with you.
Please show me the scripture(s) that say, "it was Paul that told Luke what occurred. Luke just wrote what Paul told him to write as a scribe"... if you can.
From what I read, in the books of Luke, and acts, the writer, says this... "Seeing that many have undertaken to compile an account of the facts that are given full credence among us, just as these were handed down to us by those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and attendants of the message, I resolved also, because I have traced all things from the start with accuracy, to write them to you in logical order, most excellent Theophilus..." - Luke 1:1-3
Luke says his sources were from persons who had the facts. So, nowhere did he say, his source was Paul.
In fact, Luke would not have to ask Paul to tell him about anything... except his own personal experience, on the road to Damascus.
Paul was not present to know of the activities of the disciples of Christ, which Luke recorded.
(Acts 1:1-4) 1 The first account, O Theophilus, I composed about all the things Jesus started to do and to teach 2 until the day that he was taken up, after he had given instructions through holy spirit to the apostles he had chosen. 3 After he had suffered, he showed himself alive to them by many convincing proofs. He was seen by them throughout 40 days, and he was speaking about the Kingdom of God. 4 While he was meeting with them, he ordered them. . .
Read on.
Actually, anyone who claims that Luke was not an eyewitness to the activities surrounding the apostles... including Paul and Barnabus, has figuratively "kicked the chair from under their feet, after tying a noose around their neck", because Luke wrote as a witness to the things done by the apostles. Acts 16
In fact, he became Paul's traveling companion, which does not happen without the approval of the apostles and older men in Jerusalem.
(Acts 2:42) . . .And they continued devoting themselves to the teaching of the apostles, to associating together, to the taking of meals, and to prayers.
(Acts 6:2-7) 2 So the Twelve called the multitude of the disciples together and said: “It is not right for us to leave the word of God to distribute food to tables. 3 So, brothers, select for yourselves seven reputable men from among you, full of spirit and wisdom, that we may appoint them over this necessary matter; 4 but we will devote ourselves to prayer and to the ministry of the word.” 5 What they said was pleasing to the whole multitude, and they selected Stephen, a man full of faith and holy spirit, as well as Philip, Prochorus, Nicanor, Timon, Parmenas, and Nicolaus, a proselyte of Antioch. 6 They brought them to the apostles, and after praying, they laid their hands on them. 7 Consequently, the word of God continued to spread, and the number of the disciples kept multiplying very much in Jerusalem; and a large crowd of priests began to be obedient to the faith.
I hope you are able to see, and acknowledge where you are shown wrong.
Paul does not curse anyone. It is God who put the blessings and the curses before us, and we choose one or the other.
For example ...
(Deuteronomy 27:26) “‘Cursed is the one who will not uphold the words of this Law by carrying them out.’ (And all the people will say, ‘Amen!’)
(Jeremiah 11:3, 4) 3. . .‘This is what Jehovah the God of Israel says: “Cursed is the man who does not obey the words of this covenant, 4 which I commanded your forefathers. . .
Paul is not cursing anyone, but rather, applying the scriptures, actually declaring that those who reject God's message are cursed by God.... as God declared. Galatians 1:8, 9
Paul is a proven murderer of Christians (Stephen is named but there were many others) and Paul even brags that no one was more violent against Christians than Paul letting people know how treacherous he is and what Paul is capable of doing to people. Paul does not state he regrets killing people only that Paul is a proven, vicious killer.
Paul did not murder Stephen. Did you actually read the account?
(Acts 7:1, 2) 1. . .But the high priest said: “Are these things so?” 2 Stephen replied: “Men, brothers and fathers, listen.. . .
(Acts 7:54) Well, at hearing these things, they were infuriated in their hearts and began to grind their teeth at him.
(Acts 7:57, 58) 57 At this they cried out at the top of their voices and put their hands over their ears and rushed at him all together. 58 After throwing him outside the city, they began stoning him. The witnesses laid down their outer garments at the feet of a young man called Saul.
(Acts 8:1) . . .Saul, for his part, approved of his murder.. . .
(Acts 22:20) and when the blood of Stephen your witness was being spilled, I was standing by and approving and guarding the outer garments of those doing away with him.’
Paul's testimony is in harmony with the facts. Saul approved of the murder of Stephen, but he did not murder Stephen.
You know the difference don't you?
Saul sought the authority of the authorities, in order to persecute the Christians, but he did not murder anyone.
Note too, that this was Saul. Not Paul,
Paul is the new man. Saul was the man he was before.
It's like what Paul described at Ephesians 4:20-32. It is the person of the heart which God sees, and examines. So Paul is the new person that God looks at, and approves.
(1 Samuel 16:7) . . .For the way man sees is not the way God sees, because mere man sees what appears to the eyes, but Jehovah sees into the heart.”
What are you seeing? Is it the way God see? Are we not encouraged to have the mind of Christ?
Jesus taught not to curse but Paul curses, threatening anyone that disagrees with Paul. It is logical that a murderer of innocent people that threatens people for not agreeing with him would cause people to fear for their own life around Paul especially in a foreign land where their presence would not be missed because no one would know them to realize they are missing. And that is the reason disciples in the true church did not to want to travel with Paul preaching with him because they knew his gospel opposed the gospel of Jesus taught by the true Apostles. Paul said "woe to me if I do not preach the gospel". Jesus said woe to that Pharisee hypocrite that does not enter heaven and prevents those that want to learn the gospel of Jesus from entering.
[Strong's Concordance
qelalah: a curse
Original Word: קלָלָה
Part of Speech: Noun Feminine
Transliteration: qelalah
Phonetic Spelling: (kel-aw-law')
Definition: a curse
God has given us the choice of the blessings and the curses.
We have a choice.
According to Jeremiah 8:8, the "scribes" turned the law into a lie. According to Yeshua, a self-witness is not true, which would pertain to Paul (John 5:31).
I think you sound exactly like these guys...So the Pharisees said to him: “You bear witness about yourself; your witness is not true.” John 8:13
You know what Jesus thought of the Pharisees, right.
If Luke was an associate of Paul, and Luke received some of his secondhand (Luke 1:1-3) information from Paul, and Paul is the false prophet, what would that say about the stories passed on by this unknown character called Luke? I think it is a presumption to say Luke wrote Acts, but it may be a good guess, which is to say, Luke was probably not a first person witness to what he wrote about, which makes it unverifiable (Matthew 18:16).
You are ifing. Is that because you don't know the scriptures, and your source of information is not from God? That's evident.
No need for ifs... Unless you would consider ripping the entire book of Acts from your Bible... and where would that leave you.
From Chapter 16 of Acts, Luke wrote in the first person, which means he was not told these things. He witnessed them.
Even if you don't think Luke wrote it, which he says he did - Luke 1:1-4 ; Acts 1:1, the writer bears witness that he was there. If you don't believe him, then why believe anything written?
However, don't bother. Nobody believes anything you are saying here... except anti-Christ, and there are many of those.
Depending on the source, Paul would be in the category self-proclaimed "shepherd"/apostle (Ezekiel 34:2) who will be fed "judgment" (Ezekiel 34:16), or with respect to Zechariah 11, will be "annihilated" in one generation (Zechariah 11:8), and used to "pasture the flock (Gentile church) doomed for slaughter" (Zechariah 11:7).
Incorrect, no Apostle called Paul an Apostle and I searched scripture on that issue. If you found a scripture where they call Paul an Apostle, please share it.
Matthew 10:2 describes what men are Apostles and Matthias is the last one.
Paul called himself an Apostle and Paul did call the real Apostles, "Apostles", but they never called Paul one because they know he isn't. They elected Matthias as an Apostle and they opposed Paul's gospel because it denied the virgin birth of Jesus and supported human sacrifice.
Jesus taught treat everyone as a beloved brother regardless of their beliefs. 1 John 4:20
If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?"
If you love Jesus do not hate him demanding, he die. No one kills a person they love. Paul is a liar when he says he loves Jesus because Paul wanted him to die and never changed that desire for Jesus to die.
Matthew 18:35
So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses."
Apostle Peter was forgiving the trespass of Paul's claiming to be an Apostle when Peter called Paul, "beloved brother".
Peter was taught to call all men brother and love them regardless of their beliefs even if they were completely wrong, so calling Paul a brother was no different than Apostle Peter calling any man "beloved brother". Peter probably called hundreds of men "beloved brother" if not thousands as he preached.
Paul never called an Apostle "beloved brother" because Paul denied their gospel was true.
I hope you are able to see, and acknowledge where you are shown wrong.
Paul does not curse anyone. It is God who put the blessings and the curses before us, and we choose one or the other.
For example ...
(Deuteronomy 27:26) “‘Cursed is the one who will not uphold the words of this Law by carrying them out.’ (And all the people will say, ‘Amen!’)
(Jeremiah 11:3, 4) 3. . .‘This is what Jehovah the God of Israel says: “Cursed is the man who does not obey the words of this covenant, 4 which I commanded your forefathers. . .
Paul is not cursing anyone, but rather, applying the scriptures, actually declaring that those who reject God's message are cursed by God.... as God declared. Galatians 1:8, 9
Paul did not murder Stephen. Did you actually read the account?
(Acts 7:1, 2) 1. . .But the high priest said: “Are these things so?” 2 Stephen replied: “Men, brothers and fathers, listen.. . .
(Acts 7:54) Well, at hearing these things, they were infuriated in their hearts and began to grind their teeth at him.
(Acts 7:57, 58) 57 At this they cried out at the top of their voices and put their hands over their ears and rushed at him all together. 58 After throwing him outside the city, they began stoning him. The witnesses laid down their outer garments at the feet of a young man called Saul.
(Acts 8:1) . . .Saul, for his part, approved of his murder.. . .
(Acts 22:20) and when the blood of Stephen your witness was being spilled, I was standing by and approving and guarding the outer garments of those doing away with him.’
Paul's testimony is in harmony with the facts. Saul approved of the murder of Stephen, but he did not murder Stephen.
You know the difference don't you?
Saul sought the authority of the authorities, in order to persecute the Christians, but he did not murder anyone.
Note too, that this was Saul. Not Paul,
Paul is the new man. Saul was the man he was before.
It's like what Paul described at Ephesians 4:20-32. It is the person of the heart which God sees, and examines. So Paul is the new person that God looks at, and approves.
(1 Samuel 16:7) . . .For the way man sees is not the way God sees, because mere man sees what appears to the eyes, but Jehovah sees into the heart.”
What are you seeing? Is it the way God see? Are we not encouraged to have the mind of Christ?
None of this is true, and you haven't provided any scriptural support for your claims.
[Strong's Concordance
qelalah: a curse
Original Word: קלָלָה
Part of Speech: Noun Feminine
Transliteration: qelalah
Phonetic Spelling: (kel-aw-law')
Definition: a curse
God has given us the choice of the blessings and the curses.
We have a choice.
In a court of law a man that instigates a murder, approving of it, witnessing the bloody event, and stealing the possession of the victim being murdered is guilty of murder.
For example, a mafia boss that wants a man dead will order his minions to commit the murder when they do the mafia boss is guilty of murder even though he did not do the act. The boss is the hand and those that obey him are the blade, so all are guilty of murder.
In addition, Stephen had money when he was murdered because he was giving it to the poor. It is probable because Saul/Paul had the authority as a Pharisee, that they tossed Paul the cloak/garment that had the money and Paul kept that garment while Stephen was being slaughtered.
Paul was not only guilty of murder, but Paul was also a thief.
Incorrect, no Apostle called Paul an Apostle and I searched scripture on that issue. If you found a scripture where they call Paul an Apostle, please share it.
Matthew 10:2 describes what men are Apostles and Matthias is the last one.
Paul called himself an Apostle and Paul did call the real Apostles, "Apostles", but they never called Paul one because they know he isn't. They elected Matthias as an Apostle and they opposed Paul's gospel because it denied the virgin birth of Jesus and supported human sacrifice.
Jesus taught treat everyone as a beloved brother regardless of their beliefs. 1 John 4:20
If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?"
If you love Jesus do not hate him demanding, he die. No one kills a person they love. Paul is a liar when he says he loves Jesus because Paul wanted him to die and never changed that desire for Jesus to die.
Matthew 18:35
So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses."
Apostle Peter was forgiving the trespass of Paul's claiming to be an Apostle when Peter called Paul, "beloved brother".
Peter was taught to call all men brother and love them regardless of their beliefs even if they were completely wrong, so calling Paul a brother was no different than Apostle Peter calling any man "beloved brother". Peter probably called hundreds of men "beloved brother" if not thousands as he preached.
Paul never called an Apostle "beloved brother" because Paul denied their gospel was true.
as i said above, Paul wasnt counted in as one of the 12 apostles... but he was chosen by Christ Jesus to teach the nations. He was an apostle, which means, 'sent forth'
He was sent forth by Jesus to the nations. So he was an apostle.
The Bible carefully read reveals I am speaking truth about Luke. He is not an Apostle, there are only 12 listed and Luke is not on the list.
I am wondering what you believe is wrong in what I have said, and can you prove by scripture otherwise?
I would like to mention that the word apostle means one sent forth. (Greek.) It is true that Paul was not among those 12 first chosen by Jesus during his earthly ministry but he was chosen later by Jesus as one sent forth.
I think you sound exactly like these guys...So the Pharisees said to him: “You bear witness about yourself; your witness is not true.” John 8:13
You know what Jesus thought of the Pharisees, right.
Paul called himself the Pharisee of Pharisees. How much more a Pharisee can a person be? Yeshua's problem with the Pharisees seemed to be with regard to their hypocrisy. He said to do what they say, not what they do. I think the problem with the "Christians" has to do with their hypocrisies. What can you expect, as their traditions are built around the blather of Paul?
I would like to mention that the word apostle means one sent forth. (Greek.) It is true that Paul was not among those 12 first chosen by Jesus during his earthly ministry but he was chosen later by Jesus as one sent forth.
He was "chosen" by "Jesus" according to Paul, in the wilderness. According to Yeshua, you must beware of anyone in the wilderness, and he said, "do not believe them" (Matthew 24:26). Those who do not heed the message of Yeshua, will "fall" according to Yeshua in Matthew 7:24-27.
as i said above, Paul wasnt counted in as one of the 12 apostles... but he was chosen by Christ Jesus to teach the nations. He was an apostle, which means, 'sent forth'
He was sent forth by Jesus to the nations. So he was an apostle.
Jesus did not select a man to lead people astray from the gospel of Jesus which is exactly what Paul does!
1. Jesus supported equal rights for women and women were to teach men the gospel they learn from Jesus.
Paul taught inequality of women, denied their rights of inheritance and said women are to remain silent and not teach men.
2. Jesus said the Christ is not a son of Abraham. Jesus also said call no man father.
Paul taught the Christ is a son of Abraham, Abraham is the father of us all and also gave the title of father to men in his church if they would not marry and be a father.
3. Jesus taught against the concept of religious circumcision, rejecting the meaning of it, and did not do it, physically or spiritually.
Paul taught everyone must believe in circumcision and if not physical, it was necessary to believe and accept what it means spiritually.
4. Jesus commanded people believe in water baptism for removal of sin, praising John the Baptist for teaching it.
Paul required people to believe in human sacrifice to remove sin. He also attempted to make the act of water baptism as optional and
insignificant.
5. Jesus rejected the concept that righteousness can be bought, purchased, and taught against it even whipping people for not believing him.
Paul taught the concept of a purchased salvation and required people to believe the death of Jesus purchased it.
6. Jesus said feed the poor, widows and orphans included and welcomed children into his church. Jesus made no age requirements.
Paul refused to help or feed young widows and her children and told them to stay out of his church.
There is more but these are all proof Paul never converted and Paul attempts to destroy the religion Jesus had established.
He was "chosen" by "Jesus" according to Paul, in the wilderness. According to Yeshua, you must beware of anyone in the wilderness, and he said, "do not believe them" (Matthew 24:26). Those who do not heed the message of Yeshua, will "fall" according to Yeshua in Matthew 7:24-27.
Jesus approached Paul, then known as Saul. Here's what is written at Acts chapter 9
"Meanwhile, Saul was still breathing out murderous threats against the Lord’s disciples. He went to the high priest
and asked him for letters to the synagogues in Damascus, so that if he found any there who belonged to the Way, whether men or women, he might take them as prisoners to Jerusalem. As he neared Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him. He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, “Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?”
That was the voice of JESUS who spoke to Saul. Yes, Saul was persecuting Christians BEFORE Jesus approached him. He did not continue doing so.
He was "chosen" by "Jesus" according to Paul, in the wilderness. According to Yeshua, you must beware of anyone in the wilderness, and he said, "do not believe them" (Matthew 24:26). Those who do not heed the message of Yeshua, will "fall" according to Yeshua in Matthew 7:24-27.
Here is what is written about that meeting:
"As he neared Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him. 4 He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, “Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?”
5 “Who are you, Lord?” Saul asked.
“I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting,” he replied. 6 “Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.”
7 The men traveling with Saul stood there speechless; they heard the sound but did not see anyone. 8 Saul got up from the ground, but when he opened his eyes he could see nothing. So they led him by the hand into Damascus. 9 For three days he was blind, and did not eat or drink anything."
Jesus approached Paul, then known as Saul. Here's what is written at Acts chapter 9
"Meanwhile, Saul was still breathing out murderous threats against the Lord’s disciples. He went to the high priest
and asked him for letters to the synagogues in Damascus, so that if he found any there who belonged to the Way, whether men or women, he might take them as prisoners to Jerusalem. As he neared Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him. He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, “Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?”
That was the voice of JESUS who spoke to Saul. Yes, Saul was persecuting Christians BEFORE Jesus approached him. He did not continue doing so.
Paul's LIE because Paul wants to lead people away from Jesus. Paul is exalted by the High Priest and proud that he was sent on one mission and that was to destroy the new religion Jesus had established, enslaving his followers. Paul realized to accomplish that feat and exalt his Abrahamic religion as a son of Abraham; it was imperative to say Jesus approves of him after Paul demanded Jesus die!
Paul lies with no back up to verify what he said from any real witness that Jesus returned to Earth and selected him.
No, Jesus didn't! Jesus will return to Earth but one time and that is near the End of days to collect his disciples and all eyes will see him because true disciples are in various locations around the world.
All we have is one man's word=Paul that Paul was selected, and Jesus warned a man that does that is lying, his witness= testimony is not true, unverifiable. It would never stand up in a court of justice. A person has to have a real person stand up and verify, Yes, they saw that light in the desert with Paul. But no one did because having witnesses is just one more of Paul's heap of lies that Paul used to exalt himself to destroy the disciples of Jesus. If Paul can not physically kill them all, he can spiritually kill them by being crafty enough to make them believe Paul's lies as truth.
Here is what is written about that meeting:
"As he neared Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him. 4 He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, “Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?”
5 “Who are you, Lord?” Saul asked.
“I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting,” he replied. 6 “Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.”
7 The men traveling with Saul stood there speechless; they heard the sound but did not see anyone. 8 Saul got up from the ground, but when he opened his eyes he could see nothing. So they led him by the hand into Damascus. 9 For three days he was blind, and did not eat or drink anything."
The blessing of understanding Jesus gives healing sight to a person immediately, it does not blind a person. Paul was blind because he was rejecting what Jesus taught.
Paul's LIE because Paul wants to lead people away from Jesus. Paul is exalted by the High Priest and proud that he was sent on one mission and that was to destroy the new religion Jesus had established, enslaving his followers. Paul realized to accomplish that feat and exalt his Abrahamic religion as a son of Abraham; it was imperative to say Jesus approves of him after Paul demanded Jesus die!
Paul lies with no back up to verify what he said from any real witness that Jesus returned to Earth and selected him.
No, Jesus didn't! Jesus will return to Earth but one time and that is near the End of days to collect his disciples and all eyes will see him because true disciples are in various locations around the world.
All we have is one man's word=Paul that Paul was selected, and Jesus warned a man that does that is lying, his witness= testimony is not true, unverifiable. It would never stand up in a court of justice. A person has to have a real person stand up and verify, Yes, they saw that light in the desert with Paul. But no one did because having witnesses is just one more of Paul's heap of lies that Paul used to exalt himself to destroy the disciples of Jesus. If Paul can not physically kill them all, he can spiritually kill them by being crafty enough to make them believe Paul's lies as truth.
Paul's LIE because Paul wants to lead people away from Jesus. Paul is exalted by the High Priest and proud that he was sent on one mission and that was to destroy the new religion Jesus had established, enslaving his followers. Paul realized to accomplish that feat and exalt his Abrahamic religion as a son of Abraham; it was imperative to say Jesus approves of him after Paul demanded Jesus die!
Paul lies with no back up to verify what he said from any real witness that Jesus returned to Earth and selected him.
No, Jesus didn't! Jesus will return to Earth but one time and that is near the End of days to collect his disciples and all eyes will see him because true disciples are in various locations around the world.
All we have is one man's word=Paul that Paul was selected, and Jesus warned a man that does that is lying, his witness= testimony is not true, unverifiable. It would never stand up in a court of justice. A person has to have a real person stand up and verify, Yes, they saw that light in the desert with Paul. But no one did because having witnesses is just one more of Paul's heap of lies that Paul used to exalt himself to destroy the disciples of Jesus. If Paul can not physically kill them all, he can spiritually kill them by being crafty enough to make them believe Paul's lies as truth.
You can believe what you want. But the Bible says the following about Paul.
"Go!” said the Lord. “This man is My chosen instrument to carry My name before the Gentiles and their kings, and before the people of Israel. 16I will show him how much he must suffer for My name.”17So Ananias went to the house, and when he arrived, he placed his hands on Saul. “Brother Saul,” he said, “the Lord Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you were coming here, has sent me so that you may see again and be filled with the Holy Spirit.”
The blessing of understanding Jesus gives healing sight to a person immediately, it does not blind a person. Paul was blind because he was rejecting what Jesus taught.
This is what the Bible says: Not what you say.
Acts 9:17 So Ananias went to the house, and when he arrived, he placed his hands on Saul. “Brother Saul,” he said, “the Lord Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you were coming here, has sent me so that you may see again and be filled with the Holy Spirit.”
Not only did Jesus heal Paul but filled him with holy spirit.
