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Paul on Women, Sex and Dress

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
Not so. You dismiss the presence of the nephelim who destroyed man and warranted YHVH's brutal military campaigns. It will happen again too.


Gen 6:4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

Doesn't sound like a problem to me.

Numbers 13:33 And we saw the Nephilim there, the sons of Anak, of the Nephilim. And we were in our own eyes as grasshoppers, and so we were in their eyes.

These are the only two sentences in the Bible with Nephilim.

EDIT - Forgot to add - It does not say anywhere that the Hebrew mixed with the Nephilim, and I was pointing out that the Hebrew murdered their own people because they did not want to change from their original God and Goddess.

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Kolibri

Well-Known Member
Numbers 13:33

This was from the words of the 10 unfaithful spies that were fear-mongering. It is very likely they added the simile to emphasize their cause.
The other times the 'sons of A'nak' were referenced the term Neph'ilim was left out. De 1:28; 9:1,2; Jos 11:21
 

Simplelogic

Well-Known Member
Gen 6:4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

Doesn't sound like a problem to me.

Numbers 13:33 And we saw the Nephilim there, the sons of Anak, of the Nephilim. And we were in our own eyes as grasshoppers, and so we were in their eyes.

These are the only two sentences in the Bible with Nephilim.

EDIT - Forgot to add - It does not say anywhere that the Hebrew mixed with the Nephilim, and I was pointing out that the Hebrew murdered their own people because they did not want to change from their original God and Goddess.

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Might want to read Enoch.
 

Simplelogic

Well-Known Member
This was from the words of the 10 unfaithful spies that were fear-mongering. It is very likely they added the simile to emphasize their cause.
The other times the 'sons of A'nak' were referenced the term Neph'ilim was left out. De 1:28; 9:1,2; Jos 11:21

There is plenty of proof of the Nephilim race. I recommend this video on the subject. Though the guy in the video can be a little annoying.

 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
How delightful! Are you a farmer[ess] then?
The disciples were following what had been directly learned from Jesus' mouth.
Some of them were yes, but those that followed, no, which I would have thought was plainly obvious.
Paul claims a vision, and tells us he DOES NOT take his teachings from the disciples, WHOM LEARNED FROM JESUS,
Paul met the lord whether you care to admit it or not. There is also spiritual discernment which you also seem to neglect to mention. Perhaps you are not even aware of it, which would explain much if so.
and there are verses showing they were afraid of him, and others showing they did not approve what he was teaching.
Afraid of Paul? No! He went to Yerusalaim, have you fogotten and saw the apostles. Just because some there did not agree, so what. That will always be the case, it does not make him wrong or a liar. There will always be differences in teaching, it is the main core that does not alter.

You are very strange.
Says a one eyed woman... haha


The finishing school shut was it?
Before the ONE God Hebrew took over, they had a God and Goddess, and the people said they were better off under that Goddess.
So what?
The ONE God Hebrew took over by hundreds or thousands of years of genocide, against their own people. They murdered those whom didn't want to change Gods, over-and-over-and-over! Read Kings.
That is the nature of Man. That is why we are here. And yet, for all this remonstating, it is YOU, who seems to be advocating women killing in the battle field as well. A hypocritical stance perhaps.


esus says he didn't come to change the law. He was claiming to be the awaited Hebrew Messiah.
Until ''all is fulfilled''. Do you know when it was fulfilled? Do you know why there was a change in the law?
You do not know that Saul/Paul was actually converted.
You know because scripture tells you. If you are not going to accept that part then you cannot accept any of it. If that is the case, how can you argue any of it?
Sounds very bogus when he claims a vision, then does NOT teach what JESUS taught the disciples to preach - and then they end up with a lot of foreign religious ideas tacked in, - like Hell, for instance.
He had a vision, not ''claim'' a vision. He taught as he was taught be the lord himself. Paul did not teach Hell, even though you seem to atribute it to him, seeing this is the post you remonstate about.
Hell is only a fleeting moment.

LOL! YOU obviously don't understand!
I hope you were looking in a mirror when you said that, because if you weren't, you should have been. Puttin LOL in big letters and colouring words does not make you right, even if it keeps you ammused.
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
sir Paul was never called an apostle by Yeshua or his apostles. carefully look what paul the "wise master mason" taught in this respect and look what Yeshua and his apostles taught. Loose your bias and then compare.
What difference does it make whether he was called an apostle or not?
he did everything that accompanied an apostle.
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
There is plenty of proof of the Nephilim race. I recommend this video on the subject. Though the guy in the video can be a little annoying.

Nephilim just means 'tyrant bully'. That is why they were still there after the flood on the land
 
What difference does it make whether he was called an apostle or not?
he did everything that accompanied an apostle.
really lying about being an apostle is ok? spreading a false gospel is ok? murdering people is ok? the man never knew Yeshua! He taught people to not keep God's commandments! He was rejected by the church! I will live my life based on what Yeshua and his apostles taught.
 
How delightful! Are you a farmer[ess] then?

Some of them were yes, but those that followed, no, which I would have thought was plainly obvious.

Paul met the lord whether you care to admit it or not. There is also spiritual discernment which you also seem to neglect to mention. Perhaps you are not even aware of it, which would explain much if so.

Afraid of Paul? No! He went to Yerusalaim, have you fogotten and saw the apostles. Just because some there did not agree, so what. That will always be the case, it does not make him wrong or a liar. There will always be differences in teaching, it is the main core that does not alter.


Says a one eyed woman... haha



The finishing school shut was it?

So what?

That is the nature of Man. That is why we are here. And yet, for all this remonstating, it is YOU, who seems to be advocating women killing in the battle field as well. A hypocritical stance perhaps.



Until ''all is fulfilled''. Do you know when it was fulfilled? Do you know why there was a change in the law?

You know because scripture tells you. If you are not going to accept that part then you cannot accept any of it. If that is the case, how can you argue any of it?

He had a vision, not ''claim'' a vision. He taught as he was taught be the lord himself. Paul did not teach Hell, even though you seem to atribute it to him, seeing this is the post you remonstate about.
Hell is only a fleeting moment.


I hope you were looking in a mirror when you said that, because if you weren't, you should have been. Puttin LOL in big letters and colouring words does not make you right, even if it keeps you ammused.
paul never knew Yeshua, met Yeshua, was trained by Yeshua, or was ordained by Yeshua. He came in his own name and he had his own gospel that was contrary to Yeshua and his apostles. No matter how you read your bible you can not refute this. you can not refute these lies were all his own testimony and never were we told by Yeshua to accept Paul.
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
really lying about being an apostle is ok?
where?
spreading a false gospel is ok?
where? citation please?
murdering people is ok?
that was before he was converted and anyway it was not real.
the man never knew Yeshua!
he knew him.
He taught people to not keep God's commandments!
The Mosaic law is what he spoke of though primarily through the Essenes' law which was slightly different. The OT law is correct but misunderstood in some instances by man.
He was rejected by the church!
He was not rejected by the Calling of the later Church or we would not have his writings
I will live my life based on what Yeshua and his apostles taught.
Fine. So if you see a woman and you lust for her, you will ''pluck your eye out'' will you?
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
paul never knew Yeshua, met Yeshua, was trained by Yeshua, or was ordained by Yeshua. He came in his own name and he had his own gospel that was contrary to Yeshua and his apostles. No matter how you read your bible you can not refute this. you can not refute these lies were all his own testimony and never were we told by Yeshua to accept Paul.
the beginning of Galatians for one, his knowledge was not from nor through man, but through Jesus Christ. Why do you have such a problem with Paul. He helped many, including us, be in a position to be saved. Tell me some instances that you do not like.
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Act 23:11 And the night following the Lord stood by him, and said, Be of good cheer, Paul: for as thou hast testified of me in Jerusalem, so must thou bear witness also at Rome.

Do you call the lord a liar?
 
where?

where? citation please?

that was before he was converted and anyway it was not real.

he knew him.

The Mosaic law is what he spoke of though primarily through the Essenes' law which was slightly different. The OT law is correct but misunderstood in some instances by man.

He was not rejected by the Calling of the later Church or we would not have his writings

Fine. So if you see a woman and you lust for her, you will ''pluck your eye out'' will you?
sir read your own bible and look for yourself. I am not here to do your work. Your self proclaimed apostle was never anything other than exactly that. You show me where Yeshua told us that he was going to secretly meet with Saul and teach him to be an apostle. You show me where Yeshua said I should accept Saul. You show me where the real apostles said Saul was an apostle. I will keep the 10 commandments and the testimony of Yeshua. If you reject the 10 commandments you do not know God. Am i to comprehend that you do not keep the 10?
 

Simplelogic

Well-Known Member
Yes so, it is in the Strong's definition. There is no need to make the Bible into something weird you know.
Your right. There is no need to make it into anything. Thats not what I am doing. King Og of Bashan had a steel bed that was over 15 ft long. The Hebrews talk about confronting literal giants which have been confirmed by archeological discoveries. There is a human femur bone which was found around the Euphrates which belongs to a man over 15 feet tall. There are numerous discoveries like this.

Also, the book of Enoch talks about these beings in great detail. Enoch is quoted by Jude (Yeshua's brother).
 
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