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Peace will triumph in Europe. No more War Hawks.

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Did you even read the article your yourself posted?
Yes. Quote:
In order not to offend Muslims, the new, politically correct Flemish translation avoids all mentions of the Prophet Muhammad.

Flemish translation. All Flemish translations?

It's very vague. The work has an original text in Italian and then the translation.
They were censored both?
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Yes. Quote:


Flemish translation. All Flemish translations?

It's very vague. The work has an original text in Italian and then the translation.
They were censored both?
None of this supports your case.
You tried to sell it as if "belgium and the netherlands" did this. As if they (= the publisher) were instructed to do so.
This is false.

Read further down

In the Flemish translation of the work, Muhammad s name was removed because the translator said it was „useless and offensive.Publisher Myrthe Spiteri pointed out that „in Dante s work, Muhammad suffers a harsh and humiliating fate, simply because he is the prophet of Islam.”

This was a free decision by the publisher / translator.
You are being incredibly dishonest here.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
None of this supports your case.
You tried to sell it as if "belgium and the netherlands" did this. As if they (= the publisher) were instructed to do so.
This is false.

Read further down

In the Flemish translation of the work, Muhammad s name was removed because the translator said it was „useless and offensive.Publisher Myrthe Spiteri pointed out that „in Dante s work, Muhammad suffers a harsh and humiliating fate, simply because he is the prophet of Islam.”

This was a free decision by the publisher / translator.
You are being incredibly dishonest here.
Are you saying that there is one single Flemish version of the Divine Comedy in the entire world?
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
And it amounted to exactly nothing.

The topic of the thread is: do you think that the war will continue for eternity, as the warmongers of Europe and USA desire?

My answer to this question is: no, the war will stop, and the warmongers will have to hide. Yours? ;)
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Are you saying that there is one single Flemish version of the Divine Comedy in the entire world?
I don't know and I don't care.

I'm saying that what you claimed is wrong. "NL and Belgium" didn't censor it nor instructed anybody to censor it.
The publisher made that decision all on its own. The reason they felt like doing that is explained in the article by direct quote of them.

Instead of asking stupid questions, you could also just admit you were wrong.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
The topic of the thread is: do you think that the war will continue for eternity, as the warmongers of Europe and USA desire?

Nobody "desires" this. This is yet another claim with no evidence of you in this thread.
I have lost count by now. Every other post contains one or more of such unsupported claims.
You seem to be sucking them out of your thumb on the spot.

My answer to this question is: no, the war will stop, and the warmongers will have to hide. Yours? ;)
My answer is that you are full of nonsense claims.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I don't know and I don't care.

I'm saying that what you claimed is wrong. "NL and Belgium" didn't censor it nor instructed anybody to censor it.
The publisher made that decision all on its own. The reason they felt like doing that is explained in the article by direct quote of them.

Instead of asking stupid questions, you could also just admit you were wrong.
Of course I am wrong.
I don't even speak one word of Flemish or Dutch...so how would I know?

That's why I asked you.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Of course I am wrong.
I don't even speak one word of Flemish or Dutch...so how would I know?

That's why I asked you.
No, you didn't ask anything. Tiktok-brain again? Did you already forget what you posted just 2 hours ago?
Let me remind you:

We were talking about Christian countries and Islamic countries.

NL and Belgium censored a passage of the Divine Comedy.

We have never censored anything that could be deemed as offensive towards Jesus. If you don't like a book, don't buy it...this is our rules.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Nobody "desires" this. This is yet another claim with no evidence of you in this thread.
I have lost count by now. Every other post contains one or more of such unsupported claims.
You seem to be sucking them out of your thumb on the spot.


My answer is that you are full of nonsense claims.
If that's the attitude of the Leftists, ( which is not addressing the topic and not answering straightforward questions) now I understand why Harris lost.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
No one has claimed the whole world it. However it has been speculated he wants to rebuild the USSR, with other Russian officials stating claims beyond that with places such as Hokkaido (Japan) and Alaska. And indeed Putin has captured neighboring territory, and he hit a road block in his most recent effort.

There's been speculation, yes, although I'm not sure if some of our leaders and analysts are correctly reading the situation. My own speculation is that Putin is like some Mafia "Don" who feels he's been disrespected. He thinks Russia has been disrespected. There may be some truth to this, as Russia has largely been viewed as some kind of "has been" or second-rate power since the collapse of the USSR. In that sense, it seems that they're like an old lion trying to prove to the world that they can still roar.

I don't condone what he is doing, and I've been against this invasion all along. The fact that the opening was such a disorganized botch would suggest hasty planning and an act of desperation. This would suggest that the act was more impulsive than calculating. Plus, the nature of the long-term relationship between the Russians and Ukrainians would also suggest that this is a long-brewing blood feud between them, over centuries of built-up resentment.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Laugh all you want, but what I said was true. You were only offering speculation. Do you deny this?
There is nothing to deny.

It's glaringly obvious that Ukraine would have been overrun if it wasn't for the billions in aid they received to help them protect themselves against Russian aggression.

It's quite honestly insane to even suggest otherwise.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
I asked you whether the Italian text was censored too. Or just the Flemish translation.
That was several posts later, after you claimed that Belgium and The Netherlands did the censoring.

And the article you yourself quoted quite literally stated that the translator of the publisher censored the flemish version.
So your irrelevant question is even answered in the article you yourself have posted.


You are hitting all-time lows in this upteenth distraction. Quite hilarious to see how you managed to redirect a discussion about Russia-Ukraine into "some publisher changed words in a translation of Dante in Flanders".

If there were some kind of competition for going off topic, you certainly took the gold medal here.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
That was several posts later, after you claimed that Belgium and The Netherlands did the censoring.

And the article you yourself quoted quite literally stated that the translator of the publisher censored the flemish version.
So your irrelevant question is even answered in the article you yourself have posted.


You are hitting all-time lows in this upteenth distraction. Quite hilarious to see how you managed to redirect a discussion about Russia-Ukraine into "some publisher changed words in a translation of Dante in Flanders".

If there were some kind of competition for going off topic, you certainly took the gold medal here.

An on-topic question: do you think that the war will terminate soon and there will be an armistice?

Honestly I don't think you will answer it.
 
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