Curious George
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No, it is not.
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Pelosi says Trump is trying to ‘Make America White Again’ with census question
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Curious George
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I already explained that unless you have a credible source and not just propaganda, i am happy to be done. Sorry if you are upset that your illegitimate source and conspiracy theories are not worth a "refutation."
It's not. It was founded by a white supremacist eugenicist.
Center for Immigration Studies - Wikipedia
Nope, just denial of the source.
You haven't cited any data or anything to refute my argument.
Again denial is not refutation.
Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
See how they're now subconsciously using "racial and ethnic" background interchangeably with "citizenship"? If that doesn't make your blood run cold...
Curious George
Veteran Member
This is not a coherent reply.
Curious George
Veteran Member
I need not.
Try harder.
I explained why you haven't received a "refutation" and you essentially said "nope you haven't given a refutation." It makes no sense given the context.
No reason to try harder when the person with whom I am speaking isn't even making sense anymore.
Denial is not refutation. Dunno how many more times you need to read it for it to sink in.
Oh well some folks you just can't teach anything.
HonestJoe
Well-Known Member
Again, I'm not arguing against including the question, I'm asking why it needs to be added to the short-form when it is already asked on the ACS. The reason you suggested is flawed because it would not be a legal way to use census data.
I never said I had, I said I'd worked with census data from several nations and that requires at least a basic knowledge of the relevant data security laws.
I've never claimed census data (which includes both short-form, ACS and other sources) isn't used to distribute funding at state and local level. What you seemed to be implying was that the citizenship question would be relevant to individual respondents status, which would be wrong. Looking back, your statement was actually unclear and confusing so I'm no longer clear what you're actually saying.
You've still failed to give a clear answer to what the citizenship question on the short-form specifically would provide significantly better data on numbers of illegal immigrants in the US than the government already has from other sources and what you expect would be done with that data, considering it's legal anonymity and potential incompleteness, that can't be or isn't being with the data the government already has.
You shouldn't feel bad about that though. The federal government of the United States of America, with all their dedicated staff and resources, haven't been able to answer those questions either. Which is the key point.
Curious George
Veteran Member
Again with nonsense.Denial is not refutation. Dunno how many more times you need to read it for it to sink in.
Oh well some folks you just can't teach anything.
In the news, it seems that Pelosi is the racist...& also sexist.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez rips Nancy Pelosi for 'singling out newly elected women of color'
Such delicious irony, eh?
Pelosi's brand of mischief is used against her by one of her own.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez rips Nancy Pelosi for 'singling out newly elected women of color'
Such delicious irony, eh?
Pelosi's brand of mischief is used against her by one of her own.
Curious George
Veteran Member
I already explained why I won't "try harder." Did you not understand?
Again try harder.
Try harder.
Curious George
Veteran Member
More nonsense
Shad
Veteran Member
General questions. Can people opt-out of ACS? Is there one type of census that mandate a response which includes a citizenship question or for citizens only? Point being is there some sort of form that determines status demographics be it federal or state levels?
Pelosi was practically choking on her words. She’s not down with this but is facing immense pressure from the far left.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Isn't this reminiscent of the Pubs problem with the Tea Party element?
Oh wait, that element still exists, except that it's now referred to as the "Freedom Caucus", and the Pubs still can't handle them.
BTW, just remember a wise saying by a wise man: "I don't belong to any organized party. I'm a Democrat".-- Will Rogers
Oh wait, that element still exists, except that it's now referred to as the "Freedom Caucus", and the Pubs still can't handle them.
BTW, just remember a wise saying by a wise man: "I don't belong to any organized party. I'm a Democrat".-- Will Rogers
HonestJoe
Well-Known Member
Apparently, since the ACS is formally part of the census (replacing the long-form as has been mentioned), it is mandatory to complete if you are selected.
Top Questions About the Survey
Why do I get the feeling I've just done more research in to this than Trump ever has?