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People of color.

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
I was having a conversation with a white person who referred to me and people like me as people/persons of color. I responded by referring to him and people like him as people/persons of color. He responded that people of color consist of only black or brown people, and I retorted white is just as much of a color as black, brown, or anything else and if he wanted to refer to black or brown people, he should use those words rather than something vague and incorrect. Upon further investigation I found out the term was originally coined by 17th century racists who wanted to distinguish white people from non whites, but fell out of favor shortly afterwords only to be brought back in the 1970’s by black and brown racists who wanted to separate white people from all the other races. Most of the people I know who use the term are not bigots or racists yet use the term coined by bigots and racists. Are these people just parroting something they’ve heard someone else use without thinking what these words actually mean? Or something else? Your thoughts?

I'm not white, myself, and I find the term "people of color" extremely American-centric and limited. Nobody I know where I live (in the Middle East) would describe themselves as being "of color," nor would most think of that as a primary identifying factor about themselves. Many of us even look white or white-ish as far as skin color goes.

That said, I can see the usefulness of the term in the context of the US and other white-majority countries. Sometimes there's a need to make it clear whether one is referring to the majority or a minority, and the term "people of color" serves a purpose there.
 

SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
Staff member
Premium Member
Actually according to my understanding; with light, white is a combination of all colors, and black is the color of no light at all.
We got there eventually. Where were you 45 minutes ago? ;)
 

Kfox

Well-Known Member
I'm not white, myself, and I find the term "people of color" extremely American-centric and limited. Nobody I know where I live (in the Middle East) would describe themselves as being "of color," nor would most think of that as a primary identifying factor about themselves. Many of us even look white or white-ish as far as skin color goes.

That said, I can see the usefulness of the term in the context of the US and other white-majority countries. Sometimes there's a need to make it clear whether one is referring to the majority or a minority, and the term "people of color" serves a purpose there.
Yeah; the term "people of color" is a term originated in the US so I can understand it not being a thing in Middle East Asia. As far as a need to make clear when referring to a minority vs majority, why not just use the term "minority" or "majority"? At least using that term will include far east Asians as well as all the other minorities, the term people of color seems to exclude them.
 

Secret Chief

Veteran Member
I'm not white, myself, and I find the term "people of color" extremely American-centric and limited. Nobody I know where I live (in the Middle East) would describe themselves as being "of color," nor would most think of that as a primary identifying factor about themselves. Many of us even look white or white-ish as far as skin color goes.

That said, I can see the usefulness of the term in the context of the US and other white-majority countries. Sometimes there's a need to make it clear whether one is referring to the majority or a minority, and the term "people of color" serves a purpose there.
I do associate the term with the US.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Yeah; the term "people of color" is a term originated in the US so I can understand it not being a thing in Middle East Asia. As far as a need to make clear when referring to a minority vs majority, why not just use the term "minority" or "majority"? At least using that term will include far east Asians as well as all the other minorities, the term people of color seems to exclude them.

From what I've read, it seems that Asians are also supposed to be "of color." I also find that a strange and American-centric classification, though.
 

Kfox

Well-Known Member
From what I've read, it seems that Asians are also supposed to be "of color." I also find that a strange and American-centric classification, though.
My point is; why would someone who is against bigotry and racism, embrace terms coined by bigots and racists?
 
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