Jimmy
King Phenomenon
Heaven, can very easily be imagined imo.
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People who think they are going to Heaven - what do you think of this?
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Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
It's a place where you run across interesting people, maybe you met them before, maybe not, but they interested you for some reason. Like for instance three different scenarios come into my mind immediately. One is when she is with her grandfather, who is appropriately aged because that's how she knew him on earth. She runs across him and is thrilled to see him again. Then they stumble upon a girl she met in a park once, just once but she really liked her. At some point, her grandfather is no longer with her but she will see him again so she's not very disturbed by it. The third scenario that comes to my mind when I think of that book is when, well, this happens at the very beginning so you should know it, the girl in the story is murdered, and she is trying so hard to communicate with her sister, who is devastated by her murder. She tries and tries to communicate with her but all she can do is move a leaf across her sister's path, and her sister says to herself, " That leaf is the same color as my sister's eyes" and she follows the leaf which indirectly leads her to solve the murder of her sister, not for her sister but for herself. It's a fantastic book! I read it right after my grandmother died and it really put her death into perspective for me. But don't watch the movie first, read the book.
That's only one interpretation of hell and a very shallow one. So I don't think much about it, really. Neither the Catholic or Orthodox churches or mainstream Protestants teach that view of hell, that God just damns you for petty reasons. The concept is bit mature than that.
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Why does God damn a person in those views?
Jimmy
King Phenomenon
So like another realm. I don’t believe in other realms.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I can't speak for all three but I can speak for the Catholic perspective. This seems to sum things up well:
Are Most Catholics in America Going to Hell?
When you look around society today, it doesn’t look good. Even in the Church, people are committing abortion and contraception. They are sleeping togeth...
OK you do you.
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Jimmy
King Phenomenon
I am doing me by sharing that I don’t believe in other realms.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
That's fine. I am doing me by sharing that I do believe in other realities. "Realms" was your word, not mine.
I think you're mocking a strawman. It's petty.
I've been outright told by believers that I'm going to Hell and they took great delight in the idea of that happening
There are people out there who actually believe that
There are people who believe in vampires. Therefore?
(For some, it's always some sinister conspiracy.)
No person who identifies as a vampire has ever taken delight in the thought of watching me burn in Hell from the comfort of a cloud
There's a word for that: Sadistic
And another one: Smug
Denying Christ may be trivial. Taunting Christians with that denial is another matter.
There is no sinister conspiracy
There doesn't need to be
It all happens organically
If you can't comprehend that then that's sad
Madsaac
Active Member
They came up with this heaven & hell idea so people might follow God more or whatever. Who cares if there are certain people who thinks this is what happens after you die, it's ridiculous.
People believe in this sort of stuff because it makes them feel better and that's good.
As an atheist I'm a little annoyed that I can't believe in this sort of stuff when I die, it would be quite good actually.
People believe in this sort of stuff because it makes them feel better and that's good.
As an atheist I'm a little annoyed that I can't believe in this sort of stuff when I die, it would be quite good actually.
As I understood it, it wasn't really God damnng the soul but the soul making the decision not to cooperate with the grace of God, rejecting salvation. Hell isn't some torture dungeon as popularly imagined, but a state of the soul.
RestlessSoul
Well-Known Member
No person who identifies as Christian has ever told me I’m going to hell, much less taken delight in the thought of seeing me burn. That would be an extraordinarily un-Christian thing to do imo. Where on earth do you meet these people?