Personal/Private Journals

[dybmh]

Not with you, I tried that already.

I disagree.

At this point I'm fairly convinced you're raising a lot of nonsensical objections just to get attention for yourself, and I'm not going to buy into it.

1 concern. Not a lot. Which was repeatedly misunderstood and ridiculed for reasons which I can only speculate.

 

[Quagmire]

I disagree.



1 concern. Not a lot. Which was repeatedly misunderstood and ridiculed for reasons which I can only speculate.

I'm only responsible for things that go on in the forums, I'm not responsible for things that are only going on in your head.

 

[JustGeorge]

Unless they have given out their personal information here, it's still anom, even if they post in journals as it stands now.

Some use their names, or have the same screen name/email. I do.

Some of us talk about our forum participation to 'real world' people. I do. This place and its members are important to me. I assume I'm not the only one who feels this way.

It's not a focus on trolls. It was a valid concern brought up one time and misunderstood. Then attempts to clarify were returned with beligerence, ridicule, then eventually dismissed, followed by more ridicule.

The only reason it may look like a focus on trolls is because of the repeated misunderstanding of what was said. That required repeated attempts to clarify.

Gotcha. Have I helped clear up any of those concerns?

Right. But what is the driving force to post it publicly as opposed to post it privately among friends? What is healing or rewarding about posting it so the whole world can see it, but, the person is still hiding behind double layers of obscurity?

For those who have been abused, an online community can become a safe space. It is healing to know that somewhere in the world, you have a spot you can be who you want and say what you need without fear of repercussion.

Journaling in general can be healing, but some need a 'response', or they feel they're talking to a wall. I might find it therapeutic to open up about something that happened ten years ago and let folks comment(or not) on it, but I wouldn't want to send off a personal message to someone about it. It just doesn't seem appropriate to the situation

Random journal tidbits that are too personal, embarrassing or controversial to post under an already anom-screename?

I don't think all screen names anonymous. Mine isn't. I never assume I'm the only one in any situation.

 

[dybmh]

I'm only responsible for things that go on in the forums, I'm not responsible for things that are only going on in your head.

You don't remember the ridicule? It was just last night.

I think it has something to do with the werewolves @Ella S. warned us about

 

[Quagmire]

It's not a focus on trolls. It was a valid concern brought up one time and misunderstood.

I addressed it the first time you brought it up. You just didn't like the answer.

Then attempts to clarify were returned with beligerence, ridicule, then eventually dismissed, followed by more ridicule.

Yes, once I realized patience and courtesy werent having any effect I started being honest

The only reason it may look like a focus on trolls is because of the repeated misunderstanding of what was said. That required repeated attempts to clarify.

That would be one of those things just going on in your head that I was talking about.

 

[dybmh]

Gotcha. Have I helped clear up any of those concerns?

The concern was cleared up with two words, "that's unlikely".

 

[syo]

I understand nothing.

 

[Quagmire]

You don't remember the ridicule? It was just last night.

Seriously, @dybmh, if you're this hard up for attention get a puppy.

 

[JustGeorge]

I understand nothing.

I don't either, most days...

Anything I can help clarify?

 

[syo]

I don't either, most days...

Anything I can help clarify?

The OP boggles my mind.

 

[Quagmire]

The OP boggles my mind.

That's helpful.

 

[dybmh]

I addressed it the first time you brought it up. You just didn't like the answer.

This was your response the first time I brought it up:

"As far as trolling goes, I'll repeat what I said to someone in private: I can't see anyone inviting other people to participate in their private journal and then acting like a dink. The people you invite will know who you are and are most likely going to be the people whose opinions matter most to you."

But that did not address the circumstance that was being presented. And it took multiple back and forth replies to get on the same page. The circumstance being considered was a non-member, joining the website, and not inviting anyone to their anom-journal.

Yes, once I realized patience and courtesy werent having any effect I started being honest

Your honesty is always welcome.

That would be one of those things just going on in your head that I was talking about.

It took multiple back and forth replies to understand that the concern is about non-members joining the website then requesting an anom-journal. I thought it was clear, but somehow it wasn't, even after multiple very clear statements.

Whether you acknowledge it or not, I described a situation where a new user could join the website and use the existing journal forum to troll ( until they get kicked out ), and you said it couldn't happen and I was pretty much all wrong about that. But I wasn't wrong.

It was repeated misunderstandings.

 

[dybmh]

Seriously, @dybmh, if you're this hard up for attention get a puppy.

^^ more ridicule.

 

[Quagmire]

This was your response the first time I brought it up:

"As far as trolling goes, I'll repeat what I said to someone in private: I can't see anyone inviting other people to participate in their private journal and then acting like a dink. The people you invite will know who you are and are most likely going to be the people whose opinions matter most to you."

But that did not address the circumstance that was being presented. And it took multiple back and forth replies to get on the same page. The circumstance being considered was a non-member, joining the website, and not inviting anyone to their anom-journal.



Your honesty is always welcome.



It took multiple back and forth replies to understand that the concern is about non-members joining the website then requesting an anom-journal. I thought it was clear, but somehow it wasn't, even after multiple very clear statements.

Whether you acknowledge it or not, I described a situation where a new user could join the website and use the existing journal forum to troll ( until they get kicked out ), and you said it couldn't happen and I was pretty much all wrong about that. But I wasn't wrong.

It was repeated misunderstandings.

None of that's true, but if I agree with it anyway will you stop talking to me?

 

[dybmh]

None of that's true, but if I agree with it anyway will you stop talking to me?

None of it is true? This was just last night. Post#23 - LINK

 

[Quagmire]

None of it is true? This was just last night. Post#23 - LINK

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What do you think that proves?

 

[dybmh]

What do you think that proves?

It is an example of the repeated misunderstandings regarding a concern brought about non-members who desire to troll being attracted to the website because it has an anom-journal feature.

JustGeorge didn't understand the focus on trolls. I explained why it appeared that way. In summary: You objected, said it was in my head, not reality, and you most recently said none of what I posted is true.

The link and the screenshot shows that what I posted was, in fact, true.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I brought this idea up in the staff forums a few months ago, but it never got off the ground. Now I'm curious to see what the members think.

I've been thinking about how it might be helpful for members to have a place where they can journal anonymously

Another forum I was on had something called "Personal Forums" (think that's what it was called) where the hosting member could limit participation to people who they invited. The forums and their content would be invisible to everyone else.

The prospect of creating something like this the usual way (with add-ons and what not) is out of the question here, at least for the foreseeable future, so I have an alternative to suggest: what if we start allowing members to create an additional, anonymous account but restrict use of that account to one thread in Journals?

Here's what I'm talking about:

Say you feel the need to journal about a few personal issues, but would rather not have everyone in the forums know and/or be able to comment about your personal business.

The way this would work would be that you would contact staff to request an additional, anonymous account to be used exclusively in one thread that you would create in the Journals forum.

This thread would be open for posting by invitation only, exclusive to people who you would invite to participate.

Possible rules c/would be:

--- sock account can only be used in Journals, and only in one allowed thread.

--- only people on your "Approved list" can post in your thread. Posts by all other members would be deleted by request of OP without any further action except in cases where it becomes chronic and is obviously intentional.

--- no tagging other members unless they're on your approved list

--- all journal socks would need to have "Anonymous Journal Sock-puppet" in their user title.

--- all other forum rules apply

Thoughts?
Questions?

Just make a blog outside the forum.

 

[Quagmire]

It is an example of the repeated misunderstandings regarding a concern brought about non-members who desire to troll being attracted to the website because it has an anom-journal feature.

Which I answered each and every time you brought it up until I realized you weren't listening to the answers I was giving you.

JustGeorge didn't understand the focus on trolls. I explained why it appeared that way. In summary: You objected, said it was in my head, not reality, and you most recently said none of what I posted is true.

Okay now you're just taking everything out of context and twisting my words to paint yourself as a poor victim.

The link and the screenshot shows that what I posted was, in fact, true.

If it makes you feel good to believe that you go right ahead.

Anybody who, for whatever reason, has any interest in knowing what actually happened can just read back through this thread, although I can't imagine anybody being that bored.

You've said what you had to say, repeatedly as a matter of fact, and as unnecessary and off topic as almost all of it was you've had your say now and I don't see any point in continuing this conversation with you.

 

[Quagmire]

Just make a blog outside the forum.

I wasn't asking for alternative suggestions, I was just asking yes or no would people be interested in the idea.