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Petition Against God
- Thread starter austheist
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dawny0826
Mother Heathen
Jesus said...
"Most assuredly I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also: and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father." John 14:12 (NKJV)
Think about Jesus Christ and his "works". Jesus performed miracles...healed the sick, raised the dead...walked on water.
And according to the Bible, when we accept Christ into our lives, the very SAME Christ who did such awesome "super powerful" things resides in US and through HIM..with faith...it is totally possible to not only carry out the same works as Christ but GREATER works.
I pray every day for God to bring it on...show ME what I'm made of because of HE who dwells within.
"Most assuredly I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also: and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father." John 14:12 (NKJV)
Think about Jesus Christ and his "works". Jesus performed miracles...healed the sick, raised the dead...walked on water.
And according to the Bible, when we accept Christ into our lives, the very SAME Christ who did such awesome "super powerful" things resides in US and through HIM..with faith...it is totally possible to not only carry out the same works as Christ but GREATER works.
I pray every day for God to bring it on...show ME what I'm made of because of HE who dwells within.
M
Majikthise
Guest
Now, I like this!austheist said:
Hehe, don't worry about it. I will be on when I can.Buttercup said:Sorry Austheist....I will have to check back in tomorrow. Welcome to the forum. I hope you enjoy your stay.
PS...during the night I hope you will reconsider allowing me to have those flying superpowers! I could kick butt playing tennis with those!
Ushta All
Hmm! Its not a bad question. Abrahamic faiths , specially Christianity and Islam, dwell on miracles. My question would be a little different. If a miracle is supernatural, that is, if it breaks natural laws , would not that place in question the ethical nature of the Abrahamic God? Follow me for one sec before you close your mind. If God established/created all things, He established natural laws, right? So why break that which He established? And if He does, then why would not He also break other things He has established, supposely, like his covenants?
More over, and this applies more directly to this poll, if God does do miracles involving the breaking of natural lwas, then, would not he if he is love, just, fair and the god of all, do these miracles for every one? I mean why heal this blind man and not that one? Why this sick person and not that other one?
In fact, since the NT claims that he shows no favoritism, is this not a contradiction, and if it isn't then what is it?
Answers any one?
Ushta Ve
Ashai
Hmm! Its not a bad question. Abrahamic faiths , specially Christianity and Islam, dwell on miracles. My question would be a little different. If a miracle is supernatural, that is, if it breaks natural laws , would not that place in question the ethical nature of the Abrahamic God? Follow me for one sec before you close your mind. If God established/created all things, He established natural laws, right? So why break that which He established? And if He does, then why would not He also break other things He has established, supposely, like his covenants?
More over, and this applies more directly to this poll, if God does do miracles involving the breaking of natural lwas, then, would not he if he is love, just, fair and the god of all, do these miracles for every one? I mean why heal this blind man and not that one? Why this sick person and not that other one?
In fact, since the NT claims that he shows no favoritism, is this not a contradiction, and if it isn't then what is it?
Answers any one?
Ushta Ve
Ashai
Bishka
Veteran Member
Like JewScout said, crucifixtion was not a Jewish custom, if they were to have 'killed' him as you say, they probably would have stoned him to death(am I right Jewscout??). The romans were widely known for their use of crucifying people, Jesus was not the first to be crucified, neither was he the last.
An interesting reaction. My first instinct was to feel the same way, but then I thought about this more.fromthe heart said:
What were/are Jesus's superpowers ?
'God created man in his own image'.....it always comes down to that phrase; such a small phrase, and yet with so much potential for interpretation.
I know that some Religions represented here by members believe that God looks like us, and that is what is meant; that he made us look as he does physically. I don't think that is right (personally); I far prefer the broader interpretation of "Made in his image" as one encompassing all his abilities (To Love, to heal, to help the needy - just to name a few attributes). When Man was first 'created' (a bit of poetic licence, please
) man was then given the ability to sin (The Adam and Eve myth)(Please forgive me those of you who believe that in a literall sense). That is the only basic difference between us and God.We know (or at least those of us who choose to acknowledge such things) that we have a potential far in excess of what we actually do.
We can heal (laying on of hands, etc). Who knows, if properly tutored, what we could be capable of...........
Whe babies are born, there is a certain 'nature' about them that they loose all too soon. As we grow up, within the sculptured framework of society, and busy ourselves learning all the mundane aspects of life, the abilities we have as infants disappear.
Of course I have no proof; but I believe what I say. Maybe I am a fool.......
, but that is what I think.So the 'petition against God' I think is redundant; we have the abilities - we don't use them, we don't develop them. Look at the incredible disciplines that can be achieved (Tibetan monks burried naked in the snow, still alive; the incredible antics of yoga devotees........well, we could go on all night...)
We already have the powers..............but we neglect them, and can't be bothered(except for some who make use of a fraction of their potential).
Now laugh!
Todd
Rajun Cajun
We all have different gifts. Many have the ability to perform miracles and many don't. Although, I have seen people that do perform miracles and have seen the gift of foresite. I've seen disease healed without doctors help, I've seen some tell others about future events and saw those future events pass (those future events were very detailed so that no one could doubt). I know these people very well, and there was no hoax as I have always been cautious in believing miracles because there are many fakes out there. Anyway, here is what the bible says about gifts/powers:
1 Corinthians 12:7Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. 8To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, 9to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, 10to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues,[a] and to still another the interpretation of tongues. 11All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he gives them to each one, just as he determines.
1 Corinthians 12:28And in the church God has appointed first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then workers of miracles, also those having gifts of healing, those able to help others, those with gifts of administration, and those speaking in different kinds of tongues. 29Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? 30Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues[d]? Do all interpret? 31But eagerly desire[e] the greater gifts.
1 Corinthians 12:7Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. 8To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, 9to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, 10to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues,[a] and to still another the interpretation of tongues. 11All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he gives them to each one, just as he determines.
1 Corinthians 12:28And in the church God has appointed first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then workers of miracles, also those having gifts of healing, those able to help others, those with gifts of administration, and those speaking in different kinds of tongues. 29Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? 30Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues[d]? Do all interpret? 31But eagerly desire[e] the greater gifts.
Super Universe
Defender of God
Don't you already know you have super powers?
Can an asteroid create a symphony? What moon writes poetry? Can the sun teach a child to share?
But I guess for some that is still not enough. They want to be more special than that.
You see people all around you, here, there, everywhere, but how can that be when the universe is 99.9% empty.
What if I told you that you could make things appear magically? That you could travel the universe with your mind? You only need to make the connection.
Can an asteroid create a symphony? What moon writes poetry? Can the sun teach a child to share?
But I guess for some that is still not enough. They want to be more special than that.
You see people all around you, here, there, everywhere, but how can that be when the universe is 99.9% empty.
What if I told you that you could make things appear magically? That you could travel the universe with your mind? You only need to make the connection.
nutshell
Well-Known Member
As a holder of the Priesthood I sincerely believe I have these "superpowers" you attribute to Moses and Jesus. In fact, I can trace my Priesthood line directly to Jesus Christ. I have even used these "superpowers."
And, as the Bible promises, we can someday inherit all Jesus has, which is all the Father (God) has.
And, as the Bible promises, we can someday inherit all Jesus has, which is all the Father (God) has.
DakotaGypsy
Active Member
Who is truly responsible enough to be given superpowers?
And, what of the vanity of desiring superpowers?
Not to mention the desire for eternal life.
Whatever for?
And, what of the vanity of desiring superpowers?
Not to mention the desire for eternal life.
Whatever for?