Please Explain: "Gay Christian"

[Ingledsva]

No, Paul was addressing "the church of God which is at Corinth"
(1Corinthians 1:2)

It is discussing division among the new converts, and the factions they were breaking into.


1Co 1:11 For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.

1Co 1:12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.


What does this have to do with the discussion?



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[Ingledsva]

A homosexual wouldn't, I suppose, but he has that right, just as I do. We have equal rights. Homosexuals are asking for special rights. It would be like a pedophile pleading for the right to marry a little boy or girl. It's not right. And I will do everything in my power to prevent it.

Quit saying ridiculous crap like this!


Gays are asking for the same rights as heterosexuals!


Pedophilia is NOT the same as homosexuality! Get a grip!


Pedophilia is the sexual abuse of a person considered too young to give an informed "yes!"


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[Ingledsva]

Can I marry a horse if I'm attracted to it? NO

Again a stupid question!


A horse cannot give informed consent!


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[Omtita]

Uh. OK. Sorry.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Alright. I am gay, I am a theist, but I grew up in an atheist home.



OK Then, you may obviously be informed with the obvious hypocrisy of the church. Though not the denomination of your choice. Christianity is permeated with abortions just like any other paradigm.



Its a . . . . matter of - well. Delusion. Ultimately the practical conclusion would amount to what do you want? Penal or spiritual satisfaction? What is more important to you. Where you put your dick or something else.

Now! Everybody says it should be cool to put your dick where you want to in this day and age, although, realistically in the time of uh, lets say Moses or Jesus 'bout the time of the beginning of the Olympics you could wrestle naked and get the prize of an orgy with young boys - but then the Catholic church invented the cake with naked young boys that you could lick the icing from . . . From which all of our modern day masturbation come. Figuratively. Nasty!

It wasn't then though. A lot of that the ******* Pigs of the Catholic Church are paying monetarily for and some of their more modern constituents would insert an uncircumcised penis directly into their own child's breakfast cereal without a protestant marshmellow in the back of your throat. Because really. Your like a dead man walking looking for an excuse to continue to do so. Thus hasn't been granted you.

You know its like, lets **** the boys or **** the cabbages or **** the cucumbers and the carrots lets **** anything we want and shove all sorts of items into our vacant ***** and in some sort of way satiate the empty hole in our troubled minds.

Hell, we get distraught about the half a roll of soiled toilet paper dangling from the course hairs of a filthy dung hole . That ****y just before they busted George Michael. That's the top of the line.

Christian? Laughs. **** Christian.

Open your mind to something more. Than your dick or your ***. Rise above it.

We are well aware of the scriptures used to condemn homosexuality. The Old Testament, of course, condemned it. In the New Testament, Paul the Apostle called it "unnatural", made references towards homosexuality in the destruction of Sodom, and made it quite clear that "blah blah blah blah would not inherit the kingdom of Heaven", with homosexuality being on that list of blah blah blahs.

So: Gay Christians, specifically (it feels odd to type that; I feel like I'm typing an oxy moron), with the tenets of Christianity apparently so condemning of homosexuality, why do you find yourself drawn to it and how to you reconcile the apparent Christian doctrines that condemns us for what we are?

...What?

 

[ScuzManiac]

Do the math on the numbers - how many breeding pairs are required in a sustainable arrangement?


Think about it. One of every three women would be gay leaving two of those four remaining men without heterosexual mates. Chaos would ensue. Fighting for the few remaining heterosexual women.


But this is just speculation using the model, which is shown to be wrong by the fact that we don't have the numbers of gay people that the model stats would require to be correct, - using the data - 1 in 3 women, 1 in 5 men.



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That's cute and all....

But the majority of women are raped by men.

Very few women are raped by other women.

So, how would a woman getting raped by a man....

Be the same as a man getting raped by a man?

And more rapes happen in prison than they do in society.

So, yeah. Your argument is a tad bit off my friend.

 

[Omtita]

...What?

Its a demonstration of how myopic and stupid the Catholic Church and the homosexual Christian is.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Its a demonstration of how myopic and stupid the Catholic Church and the homosexual Christian is.

It's not the Church and gay Christians who come out looking stupid in that nonsensical post...

 

[Ingledsva]

That's cute and all....

But the majority of women are raped by men.

Very few women are raped by other women.

So, how would a woman getting raped by a man....

Be the same as a man getting raped by a man?

And more rapes happen in prison than they do in society.

So, yeah. Your argument is a tad bit off my friend.

The argument of idiots has always been that it is a learned, or reactionary survival instinct.


In other words they have been saying that Lesbians are such because they were mistreated and raped by MEN!


So they are telling us that homosexual men create homosexual men, but heterosexual men create lesbians.



Both are of course in the majority, retarded.


Gay people are Gay, - Heterosexuals are Heterosexual.


And then of course there are we fun Bi people.


We love ALL equally. Jesus would have liked us. :yes:



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[Saint Frankenstein]

And then of course there are we fun Bi people.


We love ALL equally. Jesus would have liked us. :yes:

Cheers to that.

 

[Thruve]

Alright. I am gay, I am a theist, but I grew up in an atheist home.



OK Then, you may obviously be informed with the obvious hypocrisy of the church. Though not the denomination of your choice. Christianity is permeated with abortions just like any other paradigm.



Its a . . . . matter of - well. Delusion. Ultimately the practical conclusion would amount to what do you want? Penal or spiritual satisfaction? What is more important to you. Where you put your dick or something else.

Now! Everybody says it should be cool to put your dick where you want to in this day and age, although, realistically in the time of uh, lets say Moses or Jesus 'bout the time of the beginning of the Olympics you could wrestle naked and get the prize of an orgy with young boys - but then the Catholic church invented the cake with naked young boys that you could lick the icing from . . . From which all of our modern day masturbation come. Figuratively. Nasty!

It wasn't then though. A lot of that the ******* Pigs of the Catholic Church are paying monetarily for and some of their more modern constituents would insert an uncircumcised penis directly into their own child's breakfast cereal without a protestant marshmellow in the back of your throat. Because really. Your like a dead man walking looking for an excuse to continue to do so. Thus hasn't been granted you.

You know its like, lets **** the boys or **** the cabbages or **** the cucumbers and the carrots lets **** anything we want and shove all sorts of items into our vacant ***** and in some sort of way satiate the empty hole in our troubled minds.

Hell, we get distraught about the half a roll of soiled toilet paper dangling from the course hairs of a filthy dung hole . That ****y just before they busted George Michael. That's the top of the line.

Christian? Laughs. **** Christian.

Open your mind to something more. Than your dick or your ***. Rise above it.

We are well aware of the scriptures used to condemn homosexuality. The Old Testament, of course, condemned it. In the New Testament, Paul the Apostle called it "unnatural", made references towards homosexuality in the destruction of Sodom, and made it quite clear that "blah blah blah blah would not inherit the kingdom of Heaven", with homosexuality being on that list of blah blah blahs.

So: Gay Christians, specifically (it feels odd to type that; I feel like I'm typing an oxy moron), with the tenets of Christianity apparently so condemning of homosexuality, why do you find yourself drawn to it and how to you reconcile the apparent Christian doctrines that condemns us for what we are?

[/QUOTE]

LAWL.

I tell myself God loves everybody. I view the bible as rhetorical anyhow, like the quran, but off of what I see in the real world and from my own life, the bible provides a better outlook, has more truth I adhere to, and more metaphors I can actually understand and define my life. And, I do love Jesus by his nature, and seemingly (imo) how he spiritually plays out in the real world.

 

[Omtita]

It's not the Church and gay Christians who come out looking stupid in that nonsensical post...

Yeah, right. We wouldn't want to look, uh . . . say . . . that artwork in your sig, are those effeminate looking types fondling their nipples? You get a kick out of that ****?

 

[Omtita]

I tell myself God loves everybody.

Uh . . . true but he also kills most people. 'Cause of **** like that.

I view the bible as rhetorical anyhow, like the quran, but off of what I see in the real world and from my own life, the bible provides a better outlook, has more truth I adhere to, and more metaphors I can actually understand and define my life. And, I do love Jesus by his nature, and seemingly (imo) how he spiritually plays out in the real world.

Yeah. Well the Bible is more than that. It isn't a metaphorical anecdote.

 

[McNap]

Great verse. We all get our just rewards.
No verse in the Bible says that you will ever know my sins, but I wouldn't say it's an impossibility.

Well, if you sinned there must be victims. Those victims will be resurrected as everyone will and so they will be able to witness.

Ephesians chapter 5:

8 For you were once darkness, but are now light in the Lord. Walk as children of light,
9 for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth,
10 proving what is well-pleasing to the Lord.
11 Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather even reprove them.
12 For the things which are done by them in secret, it is a shame even to speak of.
13 But all things, when they are reproved, are revealed by the light, for everything that is revealed is light.

As christians we reveal evil.
I don't think we should betray anyone, but our good deeds (light) reprove evil deeds (darkness). So I wonder how your bad deeds can be a light if they aren't revealed?

No one is under any obligation to confess their sins to anyone but God.
I really don't care how people would deal with a confession of my sins.
I don't care if people are good or evil.
I owe no human being on this earth an apology for anything I've ever done

I agree.
It's not a duty to confess, but why would you place your sins as a burden on your shoulders?
I always find it a relief to admit something I did.

In John 20:22-23 it is written as follows:

When he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit!
Whoever’s sins you forgive, they are forgiven them. Whoever’s sins you retain, they have been retained.”

To me it seems that he who has received the holy spirit, has power to forgive sins.
How can I forgive you, if you don't confess?
Aren't you forcing me to retain your sins this way?

Note that it's not just God who forgives you. It's God who forgives you through his followers.

 

[McNap]

It's not the same. Men had the right to vote. Now women have a right to vote. That is equality. Homosexuals can vote as well. You see, it's equal.

If it is okay to forbid anybody to have seks and everybody is equal, then it means I can forbid your wife to have seks.

 

[sojourner]

All I need to do is state the truth, and I'm doing just fine at that. No grasping at straws necessary here.

I'd really like to hear this truth of yours, laid out here, point by point, each point backed by fact, without resorting to a plethora of logical fallacies. Bring your facts, bring your witnesses, bring sound exegetical examples. Tell us exactly why:

homosexuality is a sin, and
why homosexuals should not be allowed to marry.

I'd just like to hear -- after forty-some-odd pages of provocative rhetoric, some real argument. I think our homosexual friends deserve at least that.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Yeah, right. We wouldn't want to look, uh . . . say . . . that artwork in your sig, are those effeminate looking types fondling their nipples? You get a kick out of that ****?

Your personal issues are not my problem, troll.

 

[ScuzManiac]

The argument of idiots has always been that it is a learned, or reactionary survival instinct.


In other words they have been saying that Lesbians are such because they were mistreated and raped by MEN!


So they are telling us that homosexual men create homosexual men, but heterosexual men create lesbians.



Both are of course in the majority, retarded.


Gay people are Gay, - Heterosexuals are Heterosexual.


And then of course there are we fun Bi people.


We love ALL equally. Jesus would have liked us. :yes:



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But that's not what I said at all?

 

[Sonofason]

It is discussing division among the new converts, and the factions they were breaking into.


1Co 1:11 For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.

1Co 1:12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.


What does this have to do with the discussion?



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I didn't bring it up. You'll have to ask the person who did. I was showing that the poster who brought it up was in error.

 

[Sonofason]

Quit saying ridiculous crap like this!


Gays are asking for the same rights as heterosexuals!


Pedophilia is NOT the same as homosexuality! Get a grip!


Pedophilia is the sexual abuse of a person considered too young to give an informed "yes!"


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You have your beliefs and I have mine. I'm okay leaving it at that. It's not like I'm going to change my mind. I won't. And it seems neither will you.