I do believe Texas is one of those states where there are no people's initiative processes that allow the voters can directly vote on a specific subject.
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Please give me proof I'm over-reacting!
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Heyo
Veteran Member
Which election are you talking about? (And what is your source?)
I can't find a breakdown of male/female vote, but it seems that in Texas the House, the Senate and the Governor have a solid Republican majority. Numbers that can't be explained by your data (except when 99% of all votes were male).
Even the congress critters who wrote the abortion ban legislation are having misgivings. They blame the media. 
From about a week ago:
www.propublica.org
Snippets:
From about a week ago:
Texas Lawmakers Push for New Exceptions to State’s Strict Abortion Ban After the Deaths of Two Women
The new legislation, prompted by ProPublica’s reporting, comes after 111 Texas doctors signed a public letter urging that the ban be changed because it “does not allow us as medical professionals to do our jobs.”
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Weeks after ProPublica reported on the deaths of two pregnant women whose miscarriages went untreated in Texas, state lawmakers have filed bills that would create new exceptions to the state’s strict abortion laws, broadening doctors’ ability to intervene when their patients face health risks.
The legislation comes after the lawmaker who wrote one of Texas’ recent abortion bans wrote an op-ed in the Houston Chronicle defending the current exceptions as “plenty clear.”
But more than 100 Texas OB-GYNs disagree with his position. In a public letter, written in response to ProPublica’s reporting, they urged changes. “As OB-GYNs in Texas, we know firsthand how much these laws restrict our ability to provide our patients with quality, evidence-based care,” they said.
Texas’ abortion ban threatens up to 99 years in prison, $100,000 in fines and loss of medical license for doctors who provide abortions. The state’s health and safety code currently includes exceptions if a pregnant woman “has a life-threatening physical condition aggravated by, caused by, or arising from a pregnancy that places the female at risk of death or poses a serious risk of substantial impairment of a major bodily function unless the abortion is performed or induced.” A separate exception exists that provides doctors with some legal protections if they perform an abortion for an ectopic pregnancy or in cases when a patient’s water breaks.
The bills, filed in the state House and Senate last week, create new health exceptions. They would allow doctors to induce or perform abortions necessary to preserve the mental or physical health of a patient, including preserving the patient’s fertility. Doctors could also provide abortions in cases where the fetus had an anomaly that would make it unable to survive outside the womb or able to survive only with “extraordinary medical interventions.”
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What Is A ‘Medical Emergency’?
The cases highlight how abortion laws can interfere with maternal health care, even for those who want to have a child.
Much of the confusion hinges on the definition of a “medical emergency.” In many cases, women experiencing a miscarriage or a pregnancy complication may be stable. But requiring them to wait for an abortion until signs of sickness are documented or the fetal cardiac activity stops violates the professional standard of care, putting them at higher risk that a life-threatening infection or other complications could develop and be harder to control.
Attaching criminal penalties to abortion procedures has led to a chilling effect, making some physicians more hesitant to care for patients experiencing pregnancy complications in general, doctors told ProPublica."
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"After ProPublica’s reporting, state Sen. Bryan Hughes, the author of one of the state’s abortion bans, wrote an op-ed in the Houston Chronicle. He said the women were “wrongfully denied care,” but he blamed media outlets including ProPublica for publishing stories that made doctors “afraid to treat the women.”
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"There is no state office that doctors can call to make sure their decisions in miscarriage cases do not violate the law. Yet Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has made it clear he will not hesitate to prosecute doctors if the abortions they provide do not meet his interpretation of a medical emergency."
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Call them infantile names all you want. It their own choice and is not yours on how they want things to be.
With a lack of a people's initiative process, Texas women have been trying to sue the State over the abortion ban. The state countered with the argument that the courts shouldn't be able to rewrite the law. (This tells me they are autocrats, as they don't use this argument against courts who rewrite laws going their way.)
More women join lawsuit challenging Texas’ abortion laws
Twenty women are challenging the state’s abortion laws, saying they were unable to get the health care they needed for their medically complex pregnancies.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Their choice is at the cost of other people's liberty and lives. But I get it; the right hates women and freedom.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
No you just hate how people want to live and you want them to live by your standards, not theirs. Of course, the left likes to control people with their own standards, and think they're above it all.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Yep, one of over half the states including many blue states.
States without initiative or referendum
Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics
95% increase for white women in the more recent years since then: 2019-2023.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
By "how they want to live" you mean control other people's choices? The left wants to protect people's reproductive choices, the right wants to take them away. So no, it's clearly the right who wants to control people. Your goofy mental gymnastics just got slapped down.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Umm, you know that "pro-choice" means individuals make their own decisions for themselves, right?
That's the opposite of trying to control people "with their own standards."
The people trying to control others "with their own standards" are those pretending they're "pro-life" and forcing others to conform to "their own standards," such as in Texas.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
No because there is no pro-choice because you're omitting the most important individual of all, and that's the opinions of abortion survivors on the matter. The only voice available for the unborn.
So it's not entirely true. Pro-choice is not inclusive of all individuals.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
This doesn't address anything I said, including the point and the context.
The "most important individual of all" is the person making life and death decisions ABOUT HER OWN BODY.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Unfortunately, you continually fail to address the fact that the unborn shares the same body and at some point along the process, must have full recognition as an individual.
I think Texas anti-choicers are happy because they see maternal death as a feature, not a bug.
In practical terms, the interpretation of "medical emergency" will be based on the attending doctor's best guess as to whether, given the specifics of the patient's case, some anti-choice MD would be willing to say under oath as an expert witness that they would have been able to save the patient without an abortion.
That's some next-level dehumanization of pregnant people right there.
Heyo
Veteran Member
I don't think the DA would bring an MD as an expert. The politicians have made clear that only they are the experts.