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Please try to disprove anything I believe.

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
I do not believe there is evidence for a personal god.

I do not believe that faith is a reliable means of gaining information or insight.

I believe the universe is made solely of energy.

I believe the universe is eternal.

I believe that human morality is innate in most human beings.

Is that a good starting point?

I would love to debate you on these topics. Unfortunately I agree with you on most and that makes it difficult. LOL
Somewhat unclear on the following:

Why do you feel the universe is eternal? We seem to know it had a beginning (not that there wasn't something before it, but the universe as we know it had a point of origin).
I sorta agree that the universe is made solely of energy, but only because energy and matter are both different manifestations of the same thing.
 

Taylor Seraphim

Angel of Reason
I linked you to 774,000 articles about exactly what I stated . . . what more would you like?
Whenever anyone posts something here, you ask for proof, when they send you an article you don't accept it . . . LMFAO!!!
We got a live one here everyone . . .

No you sent me a google result.

Send me scientific articles.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
On God. Scientists have just now discovered gravitational waves and are able to now hear as well as see the universe. Expect them before long to prove the existence of a God.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
There are many proofs there is a God which one do you want? Everything has no mapping such as genes. Just random accidents with no intelligence? The human body performs highly intelligent tasks which require 'programming' and these 'instructions' were programmed by a Programmer. The face we can't create means that there is a creator. We can only reproduce and combine elements but to date no one has been able to create anything from nothing.
 

Taylor Seraphim

Angel of Reason
There are many proofs there is a God which one do you want? Everything has no mapping such as genes. Just random accidents with no intelligence? The human body performs highly intelligent tasks which require 'programming' and these 'instructions' were programmed by a Programmer. The face we can't create means that there is a creator. We can only reproduce and combine elements but to date no one has been able to create anything from nothing.

Are you saying that because a Human cannot currently make it, that a god must have?
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
An Appleseed has numerous instructions programmed into it. To produce certain elements in a certain form and balance that will be a food for humans. How dies the Appleseed know to make its fruit compatible with humans? The same with 1,00's of fruits and vegetables as if they are created just for man
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
So the sun just 'accidentally' established itself the right distance from earth so humans could exist? And rain falls just accident guessing that we need water for survival?
 

Taylor Seraphim

Angel of Reason
An Appleseed has numerous instructions programmed into it. To produce certain elements in a certain form and balance that will be a food for humans. How dies the Appleseed know to make its fruit compatible with humans? The same with 1,00's of fruits and vegetables as if they are created just for man

It does not, their are apples that we cannot eat and there is DNA in the appleseed that the apple no longer uses.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
It does not, their are apples that we cannot eat and there is DNA in the appleseed that the apple no longer uses.

And the greatest minds and scientists just 'discovering' the amount of 'intelligence' 'programmed' into an Appleseed and the Appleseed didn't program itself nor did the scientists?? So intelligence came from pure randomness?
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
How does the human body function on auto pilot? Do you instruct your liver or kidneys what to do? How do they work in such harmony if 'randomness put them there' and no 'intelligence' was involved? All the body's organs functioning as a whole without even an on off switch???,Who programmed the human body to do all it does? Oh it just happens randomly?
 
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