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PNC Theory: Unifying Gravity, Magnetism, Electricity, and Dielectricity as One Thing Only: How to Have a Discussion: Please Show Me How?

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
@YoursTrue @Yokefellow @Bharat Jhunjhunwala @Bthoth



@YoursTrue

I agree that I need to write shorter. Please don't take any of my venting personally. I was venting about what happened in another forum. It didn't happen in this forum. My apologies for the confusion.



@YoursTrue How do I feel about seeing light and drinking from light, articulating is a challenge for me

From now on I'll write shorter.
oopsy doopsy, "drinking from light"? don't tell me -- you drink from light? very interesting I suppose.
 

River Sea

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I don't have any thoughts about neurons, other than that they are nerve cells. Feelings, including feelings of spirituality, are very complex features of the brain and I am not a neurologist (though I have a brother who is one).

@exchemist Interesting; you also added spiritual feelings. What does your brother think about the spiritual experience, and how does it affect the brain?

@Bharat Jhunjhunwala @Bthoth Do you think science will have learned more in the next 1,000 years about how spiritual experiences affect the brain? What do you think science will have learned in the next 1,000 years?
 

Bthoth

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@exchemist Interesting; you also added spiritual feelings. What does your brother think about the spiritual experience, and how does it affect the brain?

@Bharat Jhunjhunwala @Bthoth Do you think science will have learned more in the next 1,000 years about how spiritual experiences affect the brain? What do you think science will have learned in the next 1,000 years?
'Spiritual' carries about as much ambiguity as the word LOVE.

Rehashing benchmarks is where to begin.

But yes, knowledge will evolve beyond what is currently entertained.

a.... what will be learned.......................? The light entangles mass.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
@exchemist Interesting; you also added spiritual feelings. What does your brother think about the spiritual experience, and how does it affect the brain?

@Bharat Jhunjhunwala @Bthoth Do you think science will have learned more in the next 1,000 years about how spiritual experiences affect the brain? What do you think science will have learned in the next 1,000 years?
To me, that is such an interesting question. Here's why: I keep thinking that God spoke to Abraham. Because that is what the Bible says and that is what I believe. OK, that's one thing. There are other things, but I do think that God can get within brains & psyches if He wishes. Only not everything in the psyche/brain is from God, even if it appears to be. That's part of the rub and prayer also. We gotta be careful, I think.
 

Bthoth

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To me, that is such an interesting question. Here's why: I keep thinking that God spoke to Abraham. Because that is what the Bible says and that is what I believe. OK, that's one thing. There are other things, but I do think that God can get within brains & psyches if He wishes. Only not everything in the psyche/brain is from God, even if it appears to be. That's part of the rub and prayer also. We gotta be careful, I think.
lots of hope in that comment. Combined with speculations of who is doing the talking.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
apparently over your head.

I had a bit of patience with you but not so much now.
So it’s just more woo then.

This thread is in science and religion so bad science is likely to come in for criticism. But so long as you keep it at the level of word salad you should be OK, as there will be nothing coherent enough to criticise.
 
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exchemist

Veteran Member
@exchemist Interesting; you also added spiritual feelings. What does your brother think about the spiritual experience, and how does it affect the brain?

@Bharat Jhunjhunwala @Bthoth Do you think science will have learned more in the next 1,000 years about how spiritual experiences affect the brain? What do you think science will have learned in the next 1,000 years?
I only mentioned that because it seemed to be what you were interested in.
 

Bthoth

Well-Known Member
So it’s just more woo then.

This thread is in science and religion so bad science is likely to come in for criticism. But so long as you keep it at the level of word salad you should be OK, as there will be nothing coherent enough to criticise.
Let's give you a science test.

Which of the 10 cations are colored?



What are the colors of anions?



What color is Fe3?



What are the 5 groups of cations?
 

River Sea

Well-Known Member
@Bthoth

Let's give you a science test.

Which of the 10 cations are colored?



What are the colors of anions?



What color is Fe3?



What are the 5 groups of cations?

I'm google searching the answers so letting you know

an·i·on
/ˈanˌīən/
nounCHEMISTRY
plural noun: anions
a negatively charged ion, i.e. one that would be attracted to the anode in electrolysis.

cat·i·on
/ˈkadˌīən/
nounCHEMISTRY
plural noun: cations
a positively charged ion, i.e. one that would be attracted to the cathode in electrolysis.

So anion is negative charged ion and cation is positive charged ion

Three of the 10 cations are colored: Fe3+ (rust to yellow), Cr3+ (blue-green), and Ni2+ (green). Therefore, a preliminary examination of an unknown that can contain any of the 10 cations under consideration yields valuable information.

Now I can answer your question
What color is Fe3?

The answer is rust to yellow

Three of the 10 cations are colored: Fe3+ (rust to yellow), Cr3+ (blue-green), and Ni2+ (green).

I understand I didn't answer all your questions. But lets see how much I remember.

cations means positive charge ion and anion is negative charged ion. Fe3+ is rust to yellow color
 
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YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
lots of hope in that comment. Combined with speculations of who is doing the talking.
Thinking about it, I have found only the Bible gives me a hope that no other belief system gives me. The hope makes sense. To me.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Thinking about it, I have found only the Bible gives me a hope that no other belief system gives me. The hope makes sense. To me.
Giving you hope is not the same thing as having evidence. A Muslim following the Quran has hope. Does this prove Islam is correct?
 

Audie

Veteran Member
To me, that is such an interesting question. Here's why: I keep thinking that God spoke to Abraham. Because that is what the Bible says and that is what I believe. OK, that's one thing. There are other things, but I do think that God can get within brains & psyches if He wishes. Only not everything in the psyche/brain is from God, even if it appears to be. That's part of the rub and prayer also. We gotta be careful, I think.
The bible says there was a flood.
So "bible sez" is of no value.
 

River Sea

Well-Known Member
@Bthoth @Yokefellow
PNC is (photo neuron conduction) at the synaptic junction between neurons, the actual signal exchange is em, the chemicals k,cl neurotransmitters are just reacting to the em(light). That is why cytoskeltons are tubular as the oscillations can be focused between points of the cell based on wavelength of the signal. Penrose and Hammeroff have an ORCH theory to observe, as they identified the tubes of neurons and the oscillations to be the cause of consciousness.

Orch OR posits that consciousness is based on non-computable quantum processing performed by qubits formed collectively on cellular microtubules, a process significantly amplified in the neurons.

I found website that shared information that you shared @Yokefellow

@Bthoth Let me practice two words that I'm processing into my memory.
Cations mean positive charge ions, and anion is a negative charge ion. Fe3+ is a rusty yellow color.

@Bthoth I might be using this cation and anion wrong perspective.
When positive cation and negative anion are happening, there's no deletion consequence in the black hole as a bad seed produces bad fruit. How come people think humans' bad seeds producing bad fruit can be deleted in the black hole? @Yokefellow, you asked me to study the black hole. How do I study the black hole? Please let me know if I'm misunderstanding

I could be wrong with all of this cation anion and black hole by using this similar to humans. This is how I learn by making a mess. I think I'm making a mess. Yikes?
 
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IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
CAN be.
Fiction presented as fact is
questionable.
The "values" of the flood- fiction
are beyond horrendous and sick.
I think anyone who reads the Bible intelligently understands that that flood story is a myth, and that it doesn't pretend to be history.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
@Bthoth @Yokefellow




I found website that shared information that you shared @Yokefellow

@Bthoth Let me practice two words that I'm processing into my memory.
Cations mean positive charge ions, and anion is a negative charge ions. Fe3+ is a rusty yellow color.

@Bthoth I might be using this cation and anion wrong perspective.
When positive cation and negative anion are happening, there's no deletion consequence in the black hole as a bad seed producing bad fruit. How come people think humans bad seed producing bad fruit can be deleted in the black hole? @Yokefellow, you ask me to study the black hole. How do I study the black whole? Please let me know if I'm misunderstanding
Yes cations have a positive charge, due to removal of one or more of the outermost electrons. They are called cations because they are neutralised at the cathode of an electrochemical cell, which is the negatively charged electrode. The converse applies to anions, which have one or more extra electrons than the corresponding atoms and are neutralised at the positively charged anode.

The colours of some cations in solution are due to the complexes they can form with water molecules or other “ligands”, some of which absorb light in the visible region of the spectrum. This tends to be true of the cations of transition elements, like iron as you say. The cations of s-block elements (Na K, Mg, Ca, etc) are generally colourless in solution.

The origin of the colour is due to the way the energy levels of the d orbitals are split into 2 groups by the field generated by the ligands. Electrons jumping between the levels absorb photons of the right energy to be in the visible part of the spectrum. The transition elements are those in which the d orbitals are partly populated with electrons, making this process possible.

More details here , with diagrams, for anyone feeling nerdy : Ultraviolet–visible (UV-vis) spectroscopy: Colour in transition metal compounds

However cations and anions, interesting though they are to people like me, have nothing to do with black holes.
 
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