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[River Sea]

@Bthoth

What are the colors of anions?

I do remember anions is negative.

Now to google search for what are the colors of anions

Wow at Quora they discussing what are the colors of anions

Are all anions colourless? Which anions are not colourless?

Answer (1 of 3): Yes majority of anions are colourless ,only those anions where transition metal is a part of it are coloured eg.MnO4-1 ,Cr2O7 -2, CrO4-2 etc. Please note these anions are coloured due to the presence of transition metals in their structure

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Raj Bhushansingh
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Yes majority of anions are colourless ,only those anions where transition metal is a part of it are coloured eg.MnO4-1 ,Cr2O7 -2, CrO4-2 etc.
Please note these anions are coloured due to the presence of transition metals in their structure

@River Sea see responds here in this thread what Raj Bhushansingh wrote

So majority of anions are colorless? However there are anions that do have color. I keep researching this 'till I know.

This is how far I gotten to your question @Bthoth
What are the colors of anions?

But wait I want to know now.

How come Raj Bhushansingh didn't explain what the colors are? Let me google search this what the colors are by copy and paste anions are coloured due to the presence of transition metals in their structure and lets see if google search will tell me what the colors are.

So far google search doesn't tell me what colors as google search says
Complex ions containing transition metals are usually colored, whereas the similar ions from non-transition metals are not. That suggests that the partly filled d orbitals must be involved in generating the color in some way. Remember that transition metals are defined as having partly filled d orbitals.Jun 30, 2023

Origin of Color in Complex Ions - Chemistry LibreTexts

Chemistry LibreTexts

So I'll go back to your question @Bthoth and google search
What are the colors of anions?

so far I'm not finding an answer, maybe it's further down in that thread at Quora

Question how come google search doesn't show what the colors are, it seems one has to search more to find out?

I'll keep studying this.

 

[exchemist]

@Bthoth



I do remember anions is negative.

Now to google search for what are the colors of anions

Wow at Quora they discussing what are the colors of anions

Are all anions colourless? Which anions are not colourless?

Answer (1 of 3): Yes majority of anions are colourless ,only those anions where transition metal is a part of it are coloured eg.MnO4-1 ,Cr2O7 -2, CrO4-2 etc. Please note these anions are coloured due to the presence of transition metals in their structure

www.quora.com

Raj Bhushansingh
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Yes majority of anions are colourless ,only those anions where transition metal is a part of it are coloured eg.MnO4-1 ,Cr2O7 -2, CrO4-2 etc.
Please note these anions are coloured due to the presence of transition metals in their structure

@River Sea see responds here in this thread what Raj Bhushansingh wrote

So majority of anions are colorless? However there are anions that do have color. I keep researching this 'till I know.

This is how far I gotten to your question @Bthoth
What are the colors of anions?

But wait I want to know now.

How come Raj Bhushansingh didn't explain what the colors are? Let me google search this what the colors are by copy and paste anions are coloured due to the presence of transition metals in their structure and lets see if google search will tell me what the colors are.

So far google search doesn't tell me what colors as google search says
Complex ions containing transition metals are usually colored, whereas the similar ions from non-transition metals are not. That suggests that the partly filled d orbitals must be involved in generating the color in some way. Remember that transition metals are defined as having partly filled d orbitals.Jun 30, 2023

Origin of Color in Complex Ions - Chemistry LibreTexts

Chemistry LibreTexts

So I'll go back to your question and add to your question
What are the colors of anions?

so far I'm not finding an answer, maybe it's further down in that thread at Quora

Question how come google search doesn't show what the colors are, it seems one has to search more to find out?

I'll keep studying this.

Yep, you are on the right track: transition elements, because of the splitting in d orbital energies.

 

[Audie]

I think anyone who reads the Bible intelligently understands that that flood story is a myth, and that it doesn't pretend to be history.

Millions of dumb people for thousands of
years did/do take it literally.
What good did that hoax do them.

But your last 2 posts are just news of the
OBVIOUS.
I asked of what ethical or moral use
is a story about the mass murder of
every manner of living thing by a psycho
monster. And then some incest.

 

[exchemist]

Let's give you a science test.

Which of the 10 cations are colored?



What are the colors of anions?



What color is Fe3?



What are the 5 groups of cations?

It makes little sense to speak of cations or anions having a colour, since it is compounds that are coloured, not the individual ions that make them up.

There are many more than 10 cations. The colours generally derive from complexes formed by transition metal cations, which split the d orbitals into sets with differing energy levels, transitions between which involve photon absorption at frequencies in the visible. The same cation may form coloured or colourless compounds, depending on what ligands surround it. A well-known example is copper sulphate pentahydrate which is blue, whereas the monohydrate, containing the same Cu²⁺ cation of course, is colourless. Another is hydrated (pale pink) and anhydrous (blue) CoCl2, both involving the same Co²⁺ cation.

Anions that produce colours are often complex anions that involve a transition metal cation, e.g. the deep purple of permanganate solutions.

Fe³⁺ in aqueous solution is often yellow, but this is due to the start of spontaneous hydrolysis of the [Fe(H₂O)₆]³⁺ ion which is quite acidic and rapidly converts to a series of species in which successive H₂O ligands lose H⁺ , becoming OH⁻. This process eventually leads to neutral hydroxy-containing complexes which, having no charge, start to precipitate. Solutions containing pure [Fe(H₂O)₆]³⁺ ions are only stable at very low pH, when they are a pale pink or purple. Other complexes involving Fe³⁺ can have other colours, for instance the red colour formed with the SCN⁻ anion. So again, one can't say the Fe³⁺ cation itself has a particular colour.

There are many ways to group cations. I do not know which one you have in mind.

 

[Bthoth]

It makes little sense to speak of cations or anions having a colour, since it is compounds that are coloured, not the individual ions that make them up.

I already know that, but nice of you to learn that cations/anions are of molecules and the charge does affect the wavelength (color) of the molecule.

I am the guy that pointed out the new frontier will include cation/anions which is about like a structure having a different potential based on the state of energy upon that mass, not just the elements.

You said it was woo.

There are many more than 10 cations. The colours generally derive from complexes formed by transition metal cations, which split the d orbitals into sets with differing energy levels, transitions between which involve photon absorption at frequencies in the visible.

Stupid easy. Nice of you to take the time and learn it before claiming 'woo'

The same cation may form coloured or colourless compounds, depending on what ligands surround it. A well-known example is copper sulphate pentahydrate which is blue, whereas the monohydrate, containing the same Cu²⁺ cation of course, is colourless. Another is hydrated (pale pink) and anhydrous (blue) CoCl2, both involving the same Co²⁺ cation.

See, knowledge can evolve even within you.

Anions that produce colours are often complex anions that involve a transition metal cation, e.g. the deep purple of permanganate solutions.

And every molecule can only retain certain wavelengths. That is the new frontier of chemistry. I've know this sh't for almost half a century.

Just like the exchange between synapse are in wavelengths.

Fe³⁺ in aqueous solution is often yellow, but this is due to the start of spontaneous hydrolysis of the [Fe(H₂O)₆]³⁺ ion which is quite acidic and rapidly converts to a series of species in which successive H₂O ligands lose H⁺ , becoming OH⁻. This process eventually leads to neutral hydroxy-containing complexes which, having no charge, start to precipitate. Solutions containing pure [Fe(H₂O)₆]³⁺ ions are only stable at very low pH, when they are a pale pink or purple. Other complexes involving Fe³⁺ can have other colours, for instance the red colour formed with the SCN⁻ anion. So again, one can't say the Fe³⁺ cation itself has a particular colour.

now it's not woo to you.

There are many ways to group cations. I do not know which one you have in mind.

That is old stuff to me, it was woo to you before taking the time to learn from your trusted source.

 

[Bthoth]

@Bthoth Let me practice two words that I'm processing into my memory.
Cations mean positive charge ions, and anion is a negative charge ion. Fe3+ is a rusty yellow color.

and in every case, the difference is the wavelength upon the structure causing the change in state (energy).

@Bthoth I might be using this cation and anion wrong perspective.

It's a good basic. All molecules are combined elements based on em (light) upon the mass within a given enviornment.

That foundation is what to comprehend the cations and anions are just evidence of the steps.

When positive cation and negative anion are happening, there's no deletion consequence in the black hole as a bad seed produces bad fruit. How come people think humans' bad seeds producing bad fruit can be deleted in the black hole?

That's a bit outside of my scope. Black holes are a joke to me. Bad seed idea?

@Yokefellow, you asked me to study the black hole. How do I study the black hole? Please let me know if I'm misunderstanding

skip it. It's a waste of time

I could be wrong with all of this cation anion and black hole by using this similar to humans. This is how I learn by making a mess. I think I'm making a mess. Yikes?

Be careful, the chemist first claimed the cations and anions to color was woo and then the yoke apparently send you on a tangent to black holes.

My part was about molecules combined by light and that each structure retains specific wavelength but i have no idea what black holes have to do with real world comprehension.

 

[Bthoth]

Now to google search for what are the colors of anions

many structures can have anions/cations depending on the molecule and wavelength upon that mass.

Please note these anions are coloured due to the presence of transition metals in their structure

Many structures can be cation or anion depending on the energy upon the mass. I liken it to an addition or portion of a wavelength over and above the energy to maintain the molecule.

So majority of anions are colorless? However there are anions that do have color. I keep researching this 'till I know.

This is how far I gotten to your question
What are the colors of anions?

I was not affixed on a specific molecule which is what i am observing with the venue that you are observing. I am aware that the scope is fairly new, observing the 'color' of the positve/negative potential of a molecule, as all structures can be polarized based on the energy upon the mass and then what that mass (molecule) is.

But wait I want to know now.

combining chemical descriptions within an atoms and em (light) description is hard. To the chemist, i am speaking in woo but that next level of description is by far superior to describing LIFE and nature, the old model is for seeking reactions and the 'hot n cold' ideology.

How come Raj Bhushansingh didn't explain what the colors are? Let me google search this what the colors are by copy and paste anions are coloured due to the presence of transition metals in their structure and lets see if google search will tell me what the colors are.

Wavelengths of em.

So far google search doesn't tell me what colors as google search says

Every structure (molecule) is just elements held together by em (light)

What are the colors of anions?

 

[exchemist]

I already know that, but nice of you to learn that cations/anions are of molecules and the charge does affect the wavelength (color) of the molecule.

I am the guy that pointed out the new frontier will include cation/anions which is about like a structure having a different potential based on the state of energy upon that mass, not just the elements.

You said it was woo.

Stupid easy. Nice of you to take the time and learn it before claiming 'woo'


See, knowledge can evolve even within you.

And every molecule can only retain certain wavelengths. That is the new frontier of chemistry. I've know this sh't for almost half a century.

Just like the exchange between synapse are in wavelengths.


now it's not woo to you.

That is old stuff to me, it was woo to you before taking the time to learn from your trusted source.

I have answered the questions you asked me to the best of my ability. It's nice to discuss chemistry once in a while. Regarding your somewhat peculiar response, I am happy to let readers judge for themselves whether I speak with any clarity and knowledge or not. (By the way, I learned this stuff almost 50 years ago at Oxford, so for me it's mostly a question of what I've forgotten - which is a lot - rather than what I have learnt. )

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Millions of dumb people for thousands of
years did/do take it literally.
What good did that hoax do them.

But your last 2 posts are just news of the
OBVIOUS.
I asked of what ethical or moral use
is a story about the mass murder of
every manner of living thing by a psycho
monster. And then some incest.

Which is why I used the word "intelligently." Not everyone is intelligent. 26% think the sun orbits the earth.

 

[exchemist]

Which is why I used the word "intelligently." Not everyone is intelligent. 26% think the sun orbits the earth.

Well at one level that is just a choice of reference frames, so not ipso facto idiotic. But that choice of frame does not allow one to apply the theory of gravitation to account for the motion, so it's less useful for explaining it.

 

[Audie]

Which is why I used the word "intelligently." Not everyone is intelligent. 26% think the sun orbits the earth.

Why bother to "respond" at all?
Esp
As thats calling every christian for, yrs uninelligent
and probably a mahority today

And as again you skipped the main point.

On second thought, dont bother again.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

As thats calling every christian for, yrs uninelligent
and probably a mahority today

Not true at all. Most of the Christians I've known pretty much understand that the first 11 chapters of Genesis are mythic. I realize that you do not find this view among fundies, but fundies are only a small part of Christians.

 

[Bthoth]

I have answered the questions you asked me to the best of my ability. It's nice to discuss chemistry once in a while. Regarding your somewhat peculiar response, I am happy to let readers judge for themselves whether I speak with any clarity and knowledge or not. (By the way, I learned this stuff almost 50 years ago at Oxford, so for me it's mostly a question of what I've forgotten - which is a lot - rather than what I have learnt. )

OK, so the scope is not woo but almost forgotten. Where as i am a bit causal as to cause and what account for the variety.

I do not see cations/anions as specific to just iron but of all molecules. Again, i also did the work decades ago and observed a huge difference between natures evidence and descriptions. But you identified me as woo and since i have become defensive when I know it may not be personal but normal to the community.

I told you that i have a different 'perspective' but I am quite conforming in purpose.

 

[gnostic]

The bible says there was a flood.
So "bible sez" is of no value.

Not at all. Fiction is an excellent way to teach ethical values.

sure it is.

but for YoursTrue and others like her, they are not interested in Flood as a parable or allegory.

They want to think of Genesis Flood as science and history…which it is not.

There are no evidence, not just as evidence of actual Flood and Noah saving his family with the construction of the Ark, there are also no “literary evidence” that the Israelite kingdoms have their own stories of Creation and of the Flood, until they were living in Babylon during the 6th century BCE.

The Jews living as hostages in Babylon, heard of the original Babylonian creation and flood myths, borrowed and adapted for Hebrew monotheism.

it is from Mesopotamia, first by the Sumerians in the 3rd millennium BCE (eg the Ziusudra and Bilgames myths), and from the 2nd millennium BCE a later, by the Babylonians & Assyrians (eg Epic of Atrahasis, Epic of Gilgamesh, Enūma Elish (or the Epic of Creation) ) have long history. Whereas among the Hebrew people from 13th century to 7th century BCE, the names Adam and Noah, don’t even exist.

And throughout the 2 millennium BCE, where the stories from Genesis to Judges, in which the books were set in this millennium BCE, none of their existed in Egyptian or Mesopotamian records or texts.

The only reference to “Israel” is found in the Merneptah Stele (late 3th century BCE), but names such as Abraham, Jacob, Josep & Moses supposedly lived for some periods of times in Egypt, their names don’t exist.

And in Genesis and Exodus, there are no names of any Egyptian kings (or princess with Moses), only demonstrated that the authors of these 2 books have no real history of Egypt during the 2nd millennium BCE.

If Moses was really adopted into Egyptian royal family as Exodus 2 claimed, and if Moses was the author of Exodus, then why can he not named the princess or her father? Shouldn’t Moses know their names, or the name of king who went through the supposed plagues in Egypt?

 

[gnostic]

@Bthoth Let me practice two words that I'm processing into my memory.
Cations mean positive charge ions, and anion is a negative charge ion. Fe3+ is a rusty yellow color.

@Bthoth I might be using this cation and anion wrong perspective.
When positive cation and negative anion are happening, there's no deletion consequence in the black hole as a bad seed produces bad fruit. How come people think humans' bad seeds producing bad fruit can be deleted in the black hole? @Yokefellow, you asked me to study the black hole. How do I study the black hole? Please let me know if I'm misunderstanding

I could be wrong with all of this cation anion and black hole by using this similar to humans. This is how I learn by making a mess. I think I'm making a mess. Yikes?

Yes, a lot of mess.

“Black hole”? Why bring up “black hole”?

If you want to understand about colour, or about cation & anion, then look in them…just don’t include the blackhole, as that would only confuse you some more.

 

[Audie]

sure it is.

but for YoursTrue and others like her, they are not interested in Flood as a parable or allegory.

They want to think of Genesis Flood as science and history…which it is not.

There are no evidence, not just as evidence of actual Flood and Noah saving his family with the construction of the Ark, there are also no “literary evidence” that the Israelite kingdoms have their own stories of Creation and of the Flood, until they were living in Babylon during the 6th century BCE.

The Jews living as hostages in Babylon, heard of the original Babylonian creation and flood myths, borrowed and adapted for Hebrew monotheism.

it is from Mesopotamia, first by the Sumerians in the 3rd millennium BCE (eg the Ziusudra and Bilgames myths), and from the 2nd millennium BCE a later, by the Babylonians & Assyrians (eg Epic of Atrahasis, Epic of Gilgamesh, Enūma Elish (or the Epic of Creation) ) have long history. Whereas among the Hebrew people from 13th century to 7th century BCE, the names Adam and Noah, don’t even exist.

And throughout the 2 millennium BCE, where the stories from Genesis to Judges, in which the books were set in this millennium BCE, none of their existed in Egyptian or Mesopotamian records or texts.

The only reference to “Israel” is found in the Merneptah Stele (late 3th century BCE), but names such as Abraham, Jacob, Josep & Moses supposedly lived for some periods of times in Egypt, their names don’t exist.

And in Genesis and Exodus, there are no names of any Egyptian kings (or princess with Moses), only demonstrated that the authors of these 2 books have no real history of Egypt during the 2nd millennium BCE.

If Moses was really adopted into Egyptian royal family as Exodus 2 claimed, and if Moses was the author of Exodus, then why can he not named the princess or her father? Shouldn’t Moses know their names, or the name of king who went through the supposed plagues in Egypt?

CAN be a good way.

The flood-fiction, not so much.

 

[River Sea]

@Bthoth

cation positive Anion Negative

F3+ cation is yellow-rust

I hadn't gone further so hadn't address your other questions

Oh I thought the same thing about black hole, what does that got to do with:

That's a bit outside of my scope. Black holes are a joke to me. Bad seed idea?

Be careful, the chemist first claimed the cations and anions to color was woo and then the yoke apparently send you on a tangent to black holes.

My part was about molecules combined by light and that each structure retains specific wavelength but i have no idea what black holes have to do with real world comprehension

@Yokefellow Your slide further down this post showing: Jesus Died on the Cross—a Cross shaped chromosome

@Yokefellow I don't understand Jesus dying for us, plus Christians always stop with that sentence as if saying Jesus is dead. Never continue by saying Jesus is alive. How come?

What is that type of language to end a sentence with died"? It sounds like Jesus is dead. How come people have to know alive when it's never said in a sentence?

What is that in the language? Please explain. Is there a word to describe this? What is that called, leaving out information., yet expecting people to fill it in?

My question in this area is due to - spiritual emotions.

God has emotions. Humans have emotions. How to change emotions?
How does draining blood without breaking bones cause God's emotions to change from anger to happiness and approval?

And how does this chromosome need to drain blood without breaking bones?
How much had the Romans caused the laws of the Hebrews to change from zera family tree to egg family tree?

And leading to the many messiahs past focusing on Jesus to drain blood without breaking bones, what happens to the line of the zera (gone) due to through egg only?

The Romans influenced this by changing the line to female eggs only. How come?

What is all, and what is zera? It is Roman law (Romans); what is Hebrew; what is Roman; what is all? What are God's emotions? What are human emotions? Is Moses Zera from where (Indus Valley)? Or from egg? Or for all? Or what did Moses do, that cause what? Destruction or healing what?

Is Abraham for egg, zera, or all?

What is a chromosome through what line, egg, zera, or all?

How come Jesus wasn't born as a girl when, in the egg, there's only X chromosome? What type of chromosome is the Holy Spirit? No Y chromosome, so that means only X? So Jesus would be born as a girl.

One of my earlier slides shows that during Conception, there are Microtubules that transfer Oil (Holy Spirit/Consciousness/Mind, etc.) to the Nucleobases and to the newly created Zygote...

 

[Yokefellow]

@Yokefellow I don't understand Jesus dying for us, plus Christians always stop with that sentence as if saying Jesus is dead. Never continue by saying Jesus is alive. How come?

Good point. Maybe it is out of laziness?

What is that in the language? Please explain. Is there a word to describe this? What is that called, leaving out information., yet expecting people to fill it in?

They probably assume that others are already familiar with the story.

How does draining blood without breaking bones cause God's emotions to change from anger to happiness and approval?

The 'rest of the story' as they say has to do with the legalese of God being able to re-marry his wife. The only way is to die...

Hebrews 9:15-16
"And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator."

Perhaps God is happy to be married again? The Law can be very strict at times.

And how does this chromosome need to drain blood without breaking bones?

We are held prisoner here. The only way out is to pay the 'ransom money'...

1 Timothy 2:5-6
"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time."

Acts 20:28
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

The big question is to whom is the said 'Ransom Blood Money' paid to? Since Mystery Babylon is the one who drinks the Blood, I say it was to her. For Child support, I guess.

How much had the Romans caused the laws of the Hebrews to change from zera family tree to egg family tree?

And leading to the many messiahs past focusing on Jesus to drain blood without breaking bones, what happens to the line of the zera (gone) due to through egg only?

The Romans influenced this by changing the line to female eggs only. How come?

What is all, and what is zera? It is Roman law (Romans); what is Hebrew; what is Roman; what is all? What are God's emotions? What are human emotions? Is Moses Zera from where (Indus Valley)? Or from egg? Or for all? Or what did Moses do, that cause what? Destruction or healing what?

Is Abraham for egg, zera, or all?

What is a chromosome through what line, egg, zera, or all?

Hmmm. I think that is over my head. Interesting thoughts.

How come Jesus wasn't born as a girl when, in the egg, there's only X chromosome? What type of chromosome is the Holy Spirit? No Y chromosome, so that means only X? So Jesus would be born as a girl.

Good questions.

My opinion is that the corruption of DNA came from Satan, in other words the corruption came from the Father's (Male) side of DNA. Therefore, it is the Male that has to be 'circumcised' to represent where things went wrong in the Garden. And so, it had to be a Male that was sacrificed on the Cross to defeat Satan.

Mystery Babylon is saved in the end. She is 'cleaned up' and her DNA corrected to become our new Mom again in the New Heavens and New Earth. Satan is not saved in the sense that he becomes our new Father. He is replaced by Abraham's Seed.

Basically, it is the Male's fault and responsibility to fix things.

 

[gnostic]

What is a chromosome through what line, egg, zera, or all?

How come Jesus wasn't born as a girl when, in the egg, there's only X chromosome? What type of chromosome is the Holy Spirit? No Y chromosome, so that means only X? So Jesus would be born as a girl.

From human reproduction, as we know it the male produce sperms and female produce egg or ovum, during sexual intercourse.

each egg and each sperm, are single cell, called gamete cell.

So during intercourse, these sperm that successfully fertilised the egg, would cause 2 cells into one cell, called called zygote.

Then this zygote would go into cell division knowing known as meiosis.

Can Holy Spirit even produce sperms?

human cells would each contain 23 pairs of chromosomes, so a total of 46 chromosomes.

With individual gamete cell (egg or sperm), there are only 23 chromosomes (in total). It is only during the fertilisation, these 2 gametes would fuse and turn into zygote cell that will have 46 chromosomes.

from what I understand, if Mary’s egg have fertilised without sperm (which is biological not possible), then the egg would be missing 23 chromosomes. When there is a chromosome or 2 are missing, this often leads to an infant have genetic disorder (eg Down syndrome). So what would happen if there are missing 23 chromosomes?

does spirit even have chromosomes? If spirits, dont have cells (cells that make up male reproduction organ, eg testes), then they cannot produce sperms. And if spirits cannot produce sperm, then how is conception and fertilisation even possible? Do spirit even have testes?

There are hosts of possible scenarios with the Nativity story, but they are improbable, biologically.

Now it is possible that Mary’s egg have all 46 chromosomes, then that would signify asexual reproduction. But that’s another improbable biological event, as humans are not capable of asexual reproduction. The only vertebrate animals capable of asexual reproduction are some species of amphibians or of lizards. Mary isn’t a lizard, nor an amphibian.

 

[River Sea]

I hope I did ok with my responses.