Police Chase Tonight!!!

[Neo Deist]

Lots of people with vehicles like that wildly overestimate the capabilities of the car, especially when driven by an idiot.

Around here whenever we get super heavy snow, the people who cause the traffic problems are the ones who think that their 4x4 is unstoppable.
Tom

In Alabama we get more black ice than anything. Fools are always wrecking because they think they can still zip down the road running full steam.

A couple of years ago we had a blizzard (which is NOT synonymous with Alabama) and people were stuck at work/school for 3 days. My son's school is 5 minutes from the house, but there are several steep hills to get there. I jumped in my wife's Honda Pilot AWD, dropped it into low gear, kept the speed under 10 mph, made it to the school and picked him up along with some other neighborhood kids. Brought them safely back home. Not once did the Pilot ever have any issues in AWD. Love it!

 

[jeager106]

Absolute proof that druggies ain't none too smart.

I hated pursuits and would only chase another speeding vehicle if
the situation warranted such.
My worse experience was what I got after a Cadillac that was loaded
with cartons of stolen cigarettes and the driver was just released from
prison and on parole for armed robbery.
The driver was with his brother also a known bad actor.
( Yes I put him away for the armed robbery.)
The perp left the city limits at well over 100 m.p.h. with me right behind.
The perps wrecked and I didn't.
They survived to serve a bit of time in the iron hotel.
Funny as heck that the perps found a legal aid attorney that filed
suit against me for chasing them.
The judge tossed that one out of court quickly.
I don't like lawyers much.
I've was sued FOUR times at JURY and it ain't no fun.
And yes we won the suits if you can call such an ordeal "winning".
Dirty low life #$^&#&#$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[jeager106]

@Neo Deist

I have all wheel drive in my Ford Edge but, alas, it doesn't have
4 wheel STOP!

4 wheel goes good but stopping can be another matter.

 

[Revoltingest]

Yeah, but... I was off the clock and on my way home! Damnit...

Well, if you didn't want to be summoned by exigent circumstances, you shouldn't have dressed that way!

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I am not even going to waste my time trying to explain it to you.

No, please - explain why an insult to your ego justifies risking your life, the lives of other police officers, and anyone else on the road.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I know, right? Out of the entire situation and he focuses on "the thing that provoked you was just speeding and an insult..." Some people just don't get it.

So you knew about the pot when you decided to pursue?

 

[columbus]

No, please - explain why an insult to your ego justifies risking your life, the lives of other police officers, and anyone else on the road.

This isn't very complicated to me.
The combination of dangerous driving and disregard for other motorists and willingness to blow off the lights means Neo wasn't just dealing with someone late for work.
What you seem to be describing is what he had already tried.
Tom

 

[Valjean]

No, please - explain why an insult to your ego justifies risking your life, the lives of other police officers, and anyone else on the road.

I got the impression the reckless driver was already a danger to others. His insolence was further evidence that something was not quite right.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I got the impression the reckless driver was already a danger to others.

All I got was that he was speeding. I took the rest of the description of his speed as hyperbole.

Edit: especially since @Neo Deist indicated he wasn't planning to pull the guy over initially. The guy isn't going fast enough to warrant being pulled over but he is going fast enough to warrant a high-speed chase? This doesn't add up.

His insolence was further evidence that something was not quite right.

Flipping off a cop isn't illegal. It's generally unwise, but not illegal.

 

[Valjean]

Flipping off a cop isn't illegal. It's generally unwise, but not illegal.

But could be considered probable cause.

 

[Neo Deist]

All I got was that he was speeding. I took the rest of the description of his speed as hyperbole.

Edit: especially since @Neo Deist indicated he wasn't planning to pull the guy over initially. The guy isn't going fast enough to warrant being pulled over but he is going fast enough to warrant a high-speed chase? This doesn't add up.


Flipping off a cop isn't illegal. It's generally unwise, but not illegal.

I do not have to justify myself to you.

However, in the interest of being transparent, I will answer this ONE time and leave it at that...

The speed limit on that stretch of interstate is 70 mph. I generally run around 75 mph. At that time of night, it is virtually empty out in the rural area where I live. His headlights started waaaaay back in the distance, but quickly caught up to me. My rear lidar (laser radar) initially clocked him at 91 mph. As he passed me, I flashed my blue lights on and off, just enough to let him know to slow down. Even at 91 mph, I was not going to pull him over if he had just complied with my visual warning. He did slow down for a second, but then sped right back up, flipped me off, and floored it. A normal person does not do that. There was something obviously wrong with him.

I could have used the PIT maneuver and spun him out, but at those speeds it never ends pretty. A rolling roadblock is dangerous, because if he has a gun, LEOs are on all four sides of him and he can pick a target. The spike strip was the best and safest option, and that is why I called ahead; to have them set up at the next exit. The deer (karma) took care of it before it got to that point.

Why didn't I let him go? Because I am under legal obligation to get a reckless driver stopped. Because I took an oath to uphold the law and defend the US Constitution. If I just let him go and he winds up killing someone up the road, my *** gets fried. Our cars are equipped with dash cams and active GPS. The entire incident is caught on video, and had I let him go, that data could have been used to prosecute me for gross negligence if something happened.

Do you understand now?

 

[Quagmire]

I do not have to justify myself to you.

However, in the interest of being transparent, I will answer this ONE time and leave it at that...

The speed limit on that stretch of interstate is 70 mph. I generally run around 75 mph. At that time of night, it is virtually empty out in the rural area where I live. His headlights started waaaaay back in the distance, but quickly caught up to me. My rear lidar (laser radar) initially clocked him at 91 mph. As he passed me, I flashed my blue lights on and off, just enough to let him know to slow down. Even at 91 mph, I was not going to pull him over if he had just complied with my visual warning. He did slow down for a second, but then sped right back up, flipped me off, and floored it. A normal person does not do that. There was something obviously wrong with him.

I could have used the PIT maneuver and spun him out, but at those speeds it never ends pretty. A rolling roadblock is dangerous, because if he has a gun, LEOs are on all four sides of him and he can pick a target. The spike strip was the best and safest option, and that is why I called ahead; to have them set up at the next exit. The deer (karma) took care of it before it got to that point.

Why didn't I let him go? Because I am under legal obligation to get a reckless driver stopped. Because I took an oath to uphold the law and defend the US Constitution. If I just let him go and he winds up killing someone up the road, my *** gets fried. Our cars are equipped with dash cams and active GPS. The entire incident is caught on video, and had I let him go, that data could have been used to prosecute me for gross negligence if something happened.

Do you understand now?

So you really expect us to believe that you and the deer didn't set this whole thing up ahead of time?

 

[Neo Deist]

So you really expect us to believe that you and the deer didn't set this whole thing up ahead of time?

It was a C-O-N-SPIRACY!

 

[Quagmire]

It was a C-O-N-SPIRACY!

Suicide bambis: the terrorist threat that no one wants to talk about.

 

[columbus]

Suicide bambis: the terrorist threat that no one wants to talk about.

We need the "throwing up" emoji
Tom

 

[Quagmire]

We need the "throwing up" emoji
Tom

I got rid of that for a reason.

 

[Revoltingest]

So you really expect us to believe that you and the deer didn't set this whole thing up ahead of time?

He bribed the deer with a little doe....2 bucks.

 

[Quagmire]

He bribed the deer with a little doe....2 bucks.

We need the "throwing up" emoji
Tom

You may be right.

 

[Nietzsche]

I am not even going to waste my time trying to explain it to you.

Give him benefit of the doubt. Us southerners know how police chase laws work here, he clearly doesn't.

A reminder to the rest of you; I detest Neo Deist on nigh everything else. But he was in the right here, 100%. Why do I know?
Three generations of law enforcement in my family. from my great grandpappy to my grandfather*a detective* to my father*patrolman*.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I do not have to justify myself to you.

No, you don't. I'm not one of the people you police.

However, in the interest of being transparent, I will answer this ONE time and leave it at that...

The speed limit on that stretch of interstate is 70 mph. I generally run around 75 mph. At that time of night, it is virtually empty out in the rural area where I live. His headlights started waaaaay back in the distance, but quickly caught up to me. My rear lidar (laser radar) initially clocked him at 91 mph. As he passed me, I flashed my blue lights on and off, just enough to let him know to slow down. Even at 91 mph, I was not going to pull him over if he had just complied with my visual warning. He did slow down for a second, but then sped right back up, flipped me off, and floored it. A normal person does not do that. There was something obviously wrong with him.

I could have used the PIT maneuver and spun him out, but at those speeds it never ends pretty. A rolling roadblock is dangerous, because if he has a gun, LEOs are on all four sides of him and he can pick a target. The spike strip was the best and safest option, and that is why I called ahead; to have them set up at the next exit. The deer (karma) took care of it before it got to that point.

Sounds generally reasonable.

... until you use "karma" to describe the guy you were pursuing nearly dying.

Why didn't I let him go? Because I am under legal obligation to get a reckless driver stopped.

I find this hard to believe.