Police remove woman from woman's bathroom.

[Revoltingest]

I'm not labeling, only pointing up the apparent fact that in women's restrooms some women are suspicious of the gender of other women and would like the true gender of these women verified. Were it not for these feminine women (for lack of a better term) and their need there would be no issue. They're the one's who are seeking relief from their concerns, or fears, or whatever. All I'm doing is offering a solution. Got a better one, then I'm all ears. And, if no one feels my solution is good or viable, and no one else comes up with anything better, then let these women stew in their own juices.
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What about white folk who don't want black bottoms touching clean white toilet seats?
If we must accommodate transphobics, then why not blackophobes?
Who's gonna protect me from Democrats possibly being in the next stall !?

 

[SkepticThinker]

What about white folk who don't want black bottoms touching clean white toilet seats?
If we must accommodate transphobics, then why not blackophobes?
Who's gonna protect me from Democrats possibly being in the next stall !?

Nobody should have to put up with that!

 

[Revoltingest]

Good points.

I don't get why this is all suddenly such a big problem.

It's in the news.
Often people don't even care about things until there's mass hysteria about it.
Even if a problem is rare, when a big deal is made of it, people over-react.
Contrast it with real problems which afflict many, eg, drunk driving....such
carnage rarely makes the evening news, so people don't care. The odds of
one's kid being molested by a tran in a john are far less than being killed
in a car accident. Yet they want checkpoints for genitalia instead of sobriety.
Go figger.

 

[SkepticThinker]

It's in the news.
Often people don't even care about things until there's mass hysteria about it.
Even if a problem is rare, when a big deal is made of it, people over-react.
Contrast it with real problems which afflict many, eg, drunk driving....such
carnage rarely makes the evening news, so people don't care. The odds of
one's kid being molested by a tran in a john are far less than being killed
in a car accident. Yet they want checkpoints for genitalia instead of sobriety.
Go figger.

It's madness!

 

[Skwim]

What exactly is a man or woman supposed to look like?

Believe it our not, I'm no expert at identifying genders.

Now we all have to stare in our mirrors every morning evaluating if we look manly or womanly enough? And then carry around our ID to go the bathroom as if we live in some kind of authoritarian state. Doesn't this strike you as a tad ridiculous?

Do whatever you like; however, if you truly look like a member of the opposite sex be aware that you just might have to verify your gender.

How about paranoid people pee at home then.

They can do whatever they like.


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[Shadow Wolf]

So...if I am wearing jeans, a baggy shirt, my hair is up in a ball cap, should I being considered as "dressing like a man" so should be ushered out of the ladies room? What if I just went fishing or camping with my family? I'm not likely to be wearing make-up or have my hair done. I'd probably be wearing comfortable baggy clothing if hiking. I go to use the women's room at a campsite I should have ID?

The proper thing to do in that situation is to act like any other decent outdoors person and find a place to squat in the woods. It's not like those squirrels are going to discriminate or care anyways.

If we must accommodate transphobics, then why not blackophobes?

Blackophobes, LOL!

 

[Acim]

I'm not sure from a legal standpoint how this would all work out, other than requiring people to have ID on them when using a restroom. For most guys, I think that would be a given (ID is in wallet, in pocket), but for many females, I can understand not wanting to have ID (in purse) with them in the restroom. And for anyone that doesn't have ID on them for whatever reason but really (really) needs to use the restroom, I don't get how we work that out, other than to say go ahead and use the restroom.

But if ID checkers or people that care about checking who's going in are incorrect and exercising authority to restrict use, I just think it is lawsuit (after lawsuit) waiting to happen. And bizarre that we would live in a world where all restrooms now would have people checking.

Would make most sense (from restrictive is righteous perspective) to be able to show genitalia as way to establish gender, but I'm thinking that would be grounds for some other law breaking (indecency) and so is likely off the table. Also, pretty sure most people don't want to expose themselves to another just to gain entry into a restroom. So, even while I do think it would make the most sense, it really is just epitome of the problem in another form.

Sharing bathrooms is the most sensible, but I don't think we are ready for that as a blanket solution that everyone ought to have no problem with. I think it would also make sense to have no gender specific places, but again don't think we are ready for that either.

I think currently the situation is that this restriction business is unlikely to come up often. I highly doubt there will be people checking either as hired staff or concerned citizens in 99% of the existing public restrooms. In the very few cases where that might occur, I'd advise all checkers to be as clear as humanly possible on their reasons for doing so, or risk having a lawsuit brought against them or the people they are representing (i.e. the local, state government). If they engage in harassment type tactics to make the point of restriction, they better hope that person is a dangerous/creepy criminal, otherwise I don't see how that would possibly work out well for them.

I wonder if the kids today will be getting fake ID's just to use the other gender's restroom. LOL.