Policeman becomes a hero but can't celebrate it

[Kenny]

Cop dies in the line of duty while heroically saving the life of swimmer in distress

I wonder how many policeman won't be able to be thanked.

 

[Father Heathen]

Cop dies in the line of duty while heroically saving the life of swimmer in distress

I wonder how many policeman won't be able to be thanked.

This news article was from two years ago. Am I wrong to suspect that this was googled up as a response to the recent threads highlighting police misconduct?

 

[Kenny]

This news article was from two years ago. Am I wrong to suspect that this was googled up as a response to the recent threads highlighting police misconduct?

Yes, you are right... it is an attempt to balance things... would you like a more recent one?

 

[Kenny]

This news article was from two years ago. Am I wrong to suspect that this was googled up as a response to the recent threads highlighting police misconduct?

This one is unique:

NYPD officer saves 5 lives by donating organs after Harlem shooting

this was last year:

‘That’s a real cop;’ veteran officer killed while saving others honored by NYPD at annual gathering

But there is a big list for sure.

 

[Kenny]

This news article was from two years ago. Am I wrong to suspect that this was googled up as a response to the recent threads highlighting police misconduct?

That being said... when police are bad, they need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

 

[Father Heathen]

Yes, you are right... it is an attempt to balance things... would you like a more recent one?

What do you mean by "balance"? Nobody was suggesting that law enforcement wasn't a necessity, nor that there are no heroes among them.
Would you prefer that misconduct, incompetence, corruption simply be brushed under the rug to preserve some idealistic image? If honor and valor truly matter, wouldn't you rather they be held to a professional standard?
Uncritical hero worship of people in uniform contributes to the problem. They're humans, not infallible exemplars and embodiments of justice.

 

[Father Heathen]

That being said... when police are bad, they need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

And when they're good, it should be acknowledged and commended.

 

[tytlyf]

That's their job.

 

[Kenny]

What do you mean by "balance"? Nobody was suggesting that law enforcement wasn't a necessity, nor that there are no heroes among them.
Would you prefer that misconduct, incompetence, corruption simply be brushed under the rug to preserve some idealistic image? If honor and valor truly matter, wouldn't you rather they be held to a professional standard?
Uncritical hero worship of people in uniform contributes to the problem. They're humans, not infallible exemplars and embodiments of justice.

I'm sorry, let me rephrase.

If all we get is a litany of what is wrong with cops, the balance I am talking about is simply let's also list some good. Nothing more and nothing less.

I think the rest I addressed in another post.

 

[Kenny]

And when they're good, it should be acknowledged and commended.

That was my attempt. Perhaps not expertly, but my intent

 

[Twilight Hue]

I'm sorry, let me rephrase.

If all we get is a litany of what is wrong with cops, the balance I am talking about is simply let's also list some good. Nothing more and nothing less.

I think the rest I addressed in another post.

A newspiece on good cops is just as valid as those on the nasty psychopaths that departments hire.

I always liked the Andy Griffith style of policework.

What the U.S Can Learn from Countries Where Cops Are Unarmed

 

[Heyo]

That was my attempt. Perhaps not expertly, but my intent

I like to add another story of a cop doing the right thing who should have been thanked but wasn't.

 

[Viker]

Another classic example and heroic cop paying a hard price, in the line of duty, upholding the law. A genuine bold American hero.

Frank Serpico - Wikipedia

 

[Left Coast]

What do you mean by "balance"? Nobody was suggesting that law enforcement wasn't a necessity, nor that there are no heroes among them.
Would you prefer that misconduct, incompetence, corruption simply be brushed under the rug to preserve some idealistic image? If honor and valor truly matter, wouldn't you rather they be held to a professional standard?
Uncritical hero worship of people in uniform contributes to the problem. They're humans, not infallible exemplars and embodiments of justice.

I don't know all of what's been said in recent threads, but to be fair, some people do literally want to abolish the police:

Opinion | Yes, We Mean Literally Abolish the Police (Published 2020)

I understand neither one-dimensional praise nor blame for police. Like every other profession on the planet, there are police who are good at their jobs and police who are bad at their jobs, police who want to make the world better and safer and those who are self-centered, power-hungry, and entered the profession for the wrong reasons.

 

[fantome profane]

I want to see more stories about good cops stopping the bad cops, testifying against them, and then being rewarded for it.

 

[We Never Know]

This news article was from two years ago. Am I wrong to suspect that this was googled up as a response to the recent threads highlighting police misconduct?

Does it matter?

 

[Father Heathen]

I don't know all of what's been said in recent threads, but to be fair, some people do literally want to abolish the police:

Opinion | Yes, We Mean Literally Abolish the Police (Published 2020)

I understand neither one-dimensional praise nor blame for police. Like every other profession on the planet, there are police who are good at their jobs and police who are bad at their jobs, police who want to make the world better and safer and those who are self-centered, power-hungry, and entered the profession for the wrong reasons.

Of course, but our culture teaches us to hero worship both military and law enforcement, to the point where the reaction toward anything less than praise is knee-jerk denial. Same with U.S. founding fathers. obviously they've done some good and important things but they weren't without flaws, faults, and failings. Some consider it unpatriotic to acknowledge that dark side.

 

[Father Heathen]

Does it matter?

It "matters" if people prefer that ugly truths be hidden rather than exposed simply for the sake of emotional comfort. That's why I asked.

 

[We Never Know]

It "matters" if people prefer that ugly truths be hidden rather than exposed simply for the sake of emotional comfort. That's why I asked.

So only post bad things about cops, not good things.

Do you think the bad out weighs the good?

 

[Father Heathen]

A newspiece on good cops is just as valid as those on the nasty psychopaths that departments hire.

I always liked the Andy Griffith style of policework.

What the U.S Can Learn from Countries Where Cops Are Unarmed

I wasn't saying that good stories weren't "valid". Both heroism and corruption should be made known to the public. My issue would be with those who, out of idolization/adoration of cops, might seek to downplay or distract from the stories that expose abuse and misconduct.

I wasn't accusing, just asking.

 

[We Never Know]

God damn, you're reading comprehension sucks, son.

My reading is fine. I found it odd that you only questioned when something good was posted.

Does the bad out weigh the good?