Shushersbedamned
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Political Christian Morality
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Shushersbedamned
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How dp you know the particular gipsy girls are immigrants?
Shushersbedamned
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We shall never know. They keep alluding that they live whereabouts but nothing farther than that. Could it be it is convenient to remain in the whereabouts?
Someone posted this on FB today....its Phil Donahue from 2010 but I think it's relevant to the conversation about what is political Christian morality....something close to my heart.
stvdv
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19 jun 2018 stvdv 011 87
Thanks for @6:50 mentioning. I like it when info gets to the point.
My first feeling when seeing D.Trump first time, some time ago was "He might be the Anti Christ"
He is getting closer to this image every day. Just wondering how far americans let him go
And get away with this. He is just a narcissist, and will never stop. It will get worse.
[I thought this might wake them "I want the Americans to pay me respect like N.Koreans do to Kim"]
[But people seem to be numb and blind, Trump giving one crazy blow after the other]
[I loved his childish 'anger' towards this Jeff Bezos; he can't stand others being better]
[How many more crazyness Americans need, to see the truth. This is what wonders me]
Edit: But in a way I do understand. So much injustice. And if we see someone who promises to tackle one problems we feel good. Easily not seeing mistakes he makes on other areas. In Holland we have G.Wilders. Has some good points I can see. Sometimes I also forget the bad points. Probably the world is crazy and needs therefore some crazy leaders on top of that.
Thanks for @6:50 mentioning. I like it when info gets to the point.
My first feeling when seeing D.Trump first time, some time ago was "He might be the Anti Christ"
He is getting closer to this image every day. Just wondering how far americans let him go
And get away with this. He is just a narcissist, and will never stop. It will get worse.
[I thought this might wake them "I want the Americans to pay me respect like N.Koreans do to Kim"]
[But people seem to be numb and blind, Trump giving one crazy blow after the other]
[I loved his childish 'anger' towards this Jeff Bezos; he can't stand others being better]
[How many more crazyness Americans need, to see the truth. This is what wonders me]
Edit: But in a way I do understand. So much injustice. And if we see someone who promises to tackle one problems we feel good. Easily not seeing mistakes he makes on other areas. In Holland we have G.Wilders. Has some good points I can see. Sometimes I also forget the bad points. Probably the world is crazy and needs therefore some crazy leaders on top of that.
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Shushersbedamned
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Wrong. Putin is the narcissist and is manipulating Trump.
stvdv
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19 jun 2018 stvdv 011 88
You think Putin told him "to break up those families?"
You think Putin told him "tell the world that you want the Americans to adore D.Trump like the N.Koreans adore Kim?"
These 2 things are not normal [big understatement]
I think Putin is smarter than D.Trump. So I will be surprised if Putin is not manipulating D.Trump.
I also won't be surprised if Putin told D.Trump to be nice to Kim and not mess it up. Because it was so "not D.Trump" in N.Korea
But the above 2 points are "so D.Trump". Of course Putin could be the "Trump whisperer here", but I think that was not needed; that he did himself.
[If P. is just a Narc we may be happy; he might be the big brother of N., so a S or a P]
You think Putin told him "to break up those families?"
You think Putin told him "tell the world that you want the Americans to adore D.Trump like the N.Koreans adore Kim?"
These 2 things are not normal [big understatement]
I think Putin is smarter than D.Trump. So I will be surprised if Putin is not manipulating D.Trump.
I also won't be surprised if Putin told D.Trump to be nice to Kim and not mess it up. Because it was so "not D.Trump" in N.Korea
But the above 2 points are "so D.Trump". Of course Putin could be the "Trump whisperer here", but I think that was not needed; that he did himself.
[If P. is just a Narc we may be happy; he might be the big brother of N., so a S or a P]
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Shushersbedamned
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Shushersbedamned
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It's delusional for you to say "we europeans" like you could speak for them. (personally I doubt you are european at all)
stvdv
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19 jun 2018 stvdv 011 89
So you don't think D.T is capable of these 2 by himself?
So you don't think D.T is capable of these 2 by himself?
Shushersbedamned
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I would think he did do them himself. To say "by himself" you would have to be more specific about what you mean by it. I would not say he does anything "by himself" he has tons of help.
Faithofchristian
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I in cite you Epic Beard Man, to hear the crys of those babies that are being killed in Abortions.
Furthermore yes we are to obey the laws of the Government as long they are within the confounding of God's law..
That no laws of man's supersedes God's law.
Like abortions are not within God's law, As it is written, "Thou shalt not kill"
As for another, You seem to not mind that liberal democrats back before the civil war and after the civil war, taking African Americans children ripping them from their parents arms. It was liberal democrats who made the law back at the time of Bill Clinton 1997, about illegal immigrants children.
Where children were separated from their parents as they crossed the boarder into the USA under the Obama administration?
We are repeatedly informed that the separation of illegal immigrant children from the family is a policy created by the Obama administration. Is this true or is it just Mr. Sessions policy.
Did President Obama’s administration remove children from their parents when they came to the U.S. illegally? Someone on FaceBook is saying this and I want to see if this is true.
NEWSWEEK: OBAMA HELD MORE THAN DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN IN SHELTERS COMPARED TO TRUMP WHITE HOUSE
Did Bill Clinton enact a law that made it legal to separate migrants from their children. We’re migrants forced to surrender their children during the Obama administration?
THE LAW TO SEPARATE PARENTS FROM THEIR CHILDREN WHEN THEY CROSS THE BORDER ILLEGALLY WAS PASSED IN 1997 By Bill Clintion. NOW IT’S A PROBLEM?
Typical liberal democrats were all for it in 1997,
Now Liberals democrats going against what they supported in 1997.
What about those African Americans childern before and after the Civil War that were ripped from their parents arms by the liberal democrats and the KKK.
People seem to forget that this was all done by the Liberal Democrats in the South. That how back in 1997 Bill Clinton made it such a law.and liberal democrats still can not face the fact it was liberal democrats that made it law.
So what do you suppose, how Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton would do, if this was back at the time African Americans were slaves and ripping their children from their arms. Seeing Bill Clinton made such a law in 1997 ?
People seem to forget that Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton are from that South. That wanted to keep African Americans in Slavery and the taking African Americans ripping their children from their arms at the time of Slavery.
Hillary Clinton and Barrack Obama on illegal children.2014: “Just because your child gets across the border, doesn’t mean your child gets to stay...” —Hillary “ Do not send your children to our borders or they will get sent back!” —Obama"
Click on Twitter below to see video.
But you seem not to mind Supporting a Party that did all of this, Now do you
Epic Beard Man
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stvdv
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19 jun 2018 stvdv 011 91
That is true. D.T. is just a puppet who has help. Continue until people wake up "enough=enough". The world is perfect, humans actions seem illogical
I thought "why Americans choose D.T", and then I thought "why Dutch like G.Wilders"?
I gave it a little thought, taking into consideration what people like and do, and it makes a lot of sense.
The people are the ones who "create" a D.T and G.W to exist. It is as simple as that.
[A few big-shots orchestrate everything using news/tv/internet to brainwash to get the result they want]
[And after that the play just unfolds itself; not much needed anymore. A little extra brainwash now and then]
That is true. D.T. is just a puppet who has help. Continue until people wake up "enough=enough". The world is perfect, humans actions seem illogical
I thought "why Americans choose D.T", and then I thought "why Dutch like G.Wilders"?
I gave it a little thought, taking into consideration what people like and do, and it makes a lot of sense.
The people are the ones who "create" a D.T and G.W to exist. It is as simple as that.
[A few big-shots orchestrate everything using news/tv/internet to brainwash to get the result they want]
[And after that the play just unfolds itself; not much needed anymore. A little extra brainwash now and then]
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Besides the fact that Sessioan should keep in mind we are not in a theocracy, in Christianity love is the fulfillment of the law. If the morally challenged “Christian” Sessions read a bit further into the chapter he spouted, he would know what Christianity is really about.
Romans 13
9For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
10Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
@Epic Beard Man the simple and concrete answer is that, "an unjust law is no law at all":
I don't even feel the need to elaborate much further.
When children are being forcibly separated from their parents and even held in cages, all human sentiment has been lost, let aloneright reason!
These are unprecedented human rights abuses by a Western government, as I know of none other that has enforced such draconian immigration measures.
"Human law is law only by virtue of its accordance with right reason; and thus it is manifest that it flows from the eternal law. And in so far as it deviates from right reason it is called an unjust law; in such case it is no law at all, but rather a species of violence."
-- Thomas Aquinas (1225-1274), Summa theologiae, Ia-Ilae, q. xciii, art. 3, ad 2m.
And so I am in no doubt that this policy of the Trump administration lacks the character of binding, positive law in the "court of conscience". It is thuggery writ large, as St. Thomas states above.-- Thomas Aquinas (1225-1274), Summa theologiae, Ia-Ilae, q. xciii, art. 3, ad 2m.
I don't even feel the need to elaborate much further.
When children are being forcibly separated from their parents and even held in cages, all human sentiment has been lost, let aloneright reason!
These are unprecedented human rights abuses by a Western government, as I know of none other that has enforced such draconian immigration measures.
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Faithofchristian
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Maybe you should watch this video about Hillary and Obama, how they feel about Illegal immigrants children coming into the USA.
Hillary Clinton and Barrack Obama on illegal children.2014: “Just because your child gets across the border, doesn’t mean your child gets to stay...” —Hillary “ Do not send your children to our borders or they will get sent back!” —Obama"
Click on Twitter below for video
It's useless you provide them with the evidence.
They won't answer you...also because there is no way to justify these double standards.
So they avoid answering .
Faithofchristian
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Epic Beard Man, you said --- ( I have to ask the Christians since, after all, many Christians state that this is a so-called Christian nation, at what point do you in light of your religious/spiritual beliefs go against the establishment in this case, laws that appear to be morally defunct?)
At what point should Christians go against the establishment) When that establishment such as Liberal democrats who support Abortions that goes directly against God's law, in taking innocent baby's lives in Abortions.
" Thou shalt not kill"
Exodus 20:13.
Therefore everything that God is against, Liberal democrates are in supporting.
Altfish
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Of course, the BIG difference of those out of context clips is that those children were travelling alone. Most were young teens.
This administration is separating children who travel with their families.
BUT it is ok for the Christian Right to be nasty because that horrible President Obama and the woman who never got elected said something similar but no where near as bad.
Is it any wonder that Christianity is declining in the US when you justify abhorrent practices with videos of people not involved. Shame on you.
Jumi
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Quite an interesting definition though I get the feeling that you don't mean what you say. So let me ask you: are you against everything that liberal democracies support?