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Politically Acceptable Racism

Karl Hister

Member
It seems that the problem is not racism but the lack of assimilation from immigrating peoples into Europe. It's been said over and over again, assimilate or get out and that is understandable for no matter who comes and goes there should be a predominate culture. Western nations do not seem to have the most restrictive immigration policies in the world and I think the UAE leads the charge in that one as well as human rights abuses
 
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ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
In the United States, when the government is under the control of the Democratic Party, the authority and bureaucracies in a pupose driven agenda open the flood gates to populations of foreigners who will clearly become voters for the Democratic Party while restricting and discriminating against populations of foreigners who will likely become voters for the Republican Party. It isn't multiculturalism, it is political favoritism and the word smithing controlled under the guise of political correctness. It is also hidden racism against demographics that are Republican in favor of establishing a one party state under the Democrats.
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
They formed a nation from the beginning. They didn't have a collective identity from the start. We have. We know our identity and we're watching it being diluted away.
And in the case of Scotland: we are classed as Great Britain- as one "group". We are, however, different countries with different languages (although not so much anymore in Scotland) and, obviously, ideals: considering Scotland was torn between a Yes or No vote, whereas England wanted Scotland to stay.

Misguided optimism of a country in solidarity at best, at worst a missing of the elements that caused the problems in the first place for Americans to leave. And if you mean by 'identity' those negative aspects, is that a good thing?
 

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
The rhetoric that shows up time and time again on radical Islamic websites is the analogy of the "swarm of bees that attack the elephant". This is the same strategy of the extremist Democrats and the radical Left - favoring one insect over another to enmass an attack. That is what is going on now in America, and that is also why you clearly see the bizarre alliance of the radical Left and radical Islamic extremists, where your enemies enemy is your ally.

But among the vast populations, in America as a prime example, racism is not the grain of the people, the mantra that America is racist is a lie and an agenda, nothing more than that. There are problems, none of which has anything to do with racism the big overhyped lie.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
In the United States, when the government is under the control of the Democratic Party, the authority and bureaucracies in a pupose driven agenda open the flood gates to populations of foreigners who will clearly become voters for the Democratic Party while restricting and discriminating against populations of foreigners who will likely become voters for the Republican Party. It isn't multiculturalism, it is political favoritism and the word smithing controlled under the guise of political correctness. It is also hidden racism against demographics that are Republican in favor of establishing a one party state under the Democrats.

The immigration quota is established by both the President and Congress and is also adjusted by them. See: How the United States Immigration System Works: A Fact Sheet | Immigration Policy Center

It has been a long time since the Dems controlled all of the above, and if you have any link to confirm what you wrote above I would appreciate that.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
What are the arguments for countries like the UK and France allowing high immigration numbers in the recent past? The current situation is what was caused by past decisions.

Plus I wonder if the past leaders thought enough of the long-run effects that would result in immigrating ethnic groups that traditionally have higher birth rates than the native ethnic group?
 
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Wirey

Fartist
Is there such a thing/will there ever be such a thing as politically acceptable racism?- for lack of a better word.


Thoughts?

Absolutely. The Irish. You can demonize them as drunken louts and no one will say a word. Look at Notre Dame. Their football team: The Fightin' Irish. Because that's all Irish people do, is get drunk and fight. The shiner, the paddy wagon, all politically acceptable incidents of racism. The Fightin' Irish! Go name Columbia's baseball team the Sneaky Jews, or Arizona State's team the Lazy Latinos. See how long that lasts.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
the authority and bureaucracies in a pupose driven agenda open the flood gates to populations of foreigners who will clearly become voters for the Democratic Party while restricting and discriminating against populations of foreigners who will likely become voters for the Republican Party.

Elaborate and provide evidence.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
The rhetoric that shows up time and time again on radical Islamic websites is the analogy of the "swarm of bees that attack the elephant". This is the same strategy of the extremist Democrats and the radical Left - favoring one insect over another to enmass an attack. That is what is going on now in America, and that is also why you clearly see the bizarre alliance of the radical Left and radical Islamic extremists, where your enemies enemy is your ally.

But among the vast populations, in America as a prime example, racism is not the grain of the people, the mantra that America is racist is a lie and an agenda, nothing more than that. There are problems, none of which has anything to do with racism the big overhyped lie.

What bizarre alliance? Could you refer to anything to back up this existence of an alliance between the radical Left and radical Islamic extremists?
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Absolutely. The Irish. You can demonize them as drunken louts and no one will say a word. Look at Notre Dame. Their football team: The Fightin' Irish. Because that's all Irish people do, is get drunk and fight. The shiner, the paddy wagon, all politically acceptable incidents of racism. The Fightin' Irish! Go name Columbia's baseball team the Sneaky Jews, or Arizona State's team the Lazy Latinos. See how long that lasts.

The name of Fighting Irish has not gone unnoticed.
 

Heim

Active Member
For example, could there ever be a time where a country denies a race (due to overwhelming net immigration numbers of that race, for example) entry into a country?
This is not racism. The criterion for differential treatment in this case is 'overwhelming net immigration numbers of a specific race', not the race itself. Racism is a negative evaluation of a certain group based on biological characteristics. What you describe can be seen as discrimination.

Discrimination is common in immigration policy. Canada, for example, has immigration caps based on occupational category. This is discrimination using an economic criterion. It is, however, not racism.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
This is not racism. The criterion for differential treatment in this case is 'overwhelming net immigration numbers of a specific race', not the race itself. Racism is a negative evaluation of a certain group based on biological characteristics. What you describe can be seen as discrimination.

Discrimination is common in immigration policy. Canada, for example, has immigration caps based on occupational category. This is discrimination using an economic criterion. It is, however, not racism.

Surely if the discrimination is based on race, and no other discernible difference (eg. age, gender, qualifications, money) it is racism?
 

Heim

Active Member
Surely if the discrimination is based on race, and no other discernible difference (eg. age, gender, qualifications, money) it is racism?
Not necessarily. Racism, at least in scientific literature, involves negative prejudices and carries an element of hate and outspoken antipathy. Why do I think it is important to make this distinction? Well, using the term racism is incredibly suggestive. In fact, it's a moral statement. Calling something or someone racist is an accusation of hatred. I don't know about most countries, but in Belgium racism is a crime, a punishable offence.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Is there such a thing/will there ever be such a thing as politically acceptable racism?- for lack of a better word.
For example, could there ever be a time where a country denies a race (due to overwhelming net immigration numbers of that race, for example) entry into a country?
I believe that there will be a time when this happens, at least, for my United Kingdom (considering, of course, that it is a small country that is attractive such as what Switzerland is). For a country union citizen, such as an American, this will seem like a silly idea- but this is fine for your geographically large country.
Whilst I understand that the term "overpopulation" is subjective, I believe that if it is in the country's best interest to push back migrants due to "overpopulation", then it should be understood and still seen as "politically correct" by the rest of the world.

Thoughts?

At this point for Europe, restricting immigration and kicking much of them out would be the only sane thing to do. Not by "race", really, but by culture. Those who are not willing to assimilate and uphold and respect the dominant culture and the native people can go. These Muslim ghettos in European cities need to be broken up, too. Also, white Europeans need to start reproducing more because they're going to disappear if their below-replacement level reproduction rates continue. (Same for the Japanese.) They also need to stop this refugee foolishness and send those boat people right back out to where they came from. America has an insane refugee program, too. If we don't wake up to this, we're going to face the same problem that Europe is facing.

Sounds harsh, but that's reality. These are very dire times.
 

Ultimatum

Classical Liberal
Not necessarily. Racism, at least in scientific literature, involves negative prejudices and carries an element of hate and outspoken antipathy. Why do I think it is important to make this distinction? Well, using the term racism is incredibly suggestive. In fact, it's a moral statement. Calling something or someone racist is an accusation of hatred. I don't know about most countries, but in Belgium racism is a crime, a punishable offence.

Heim, is it not a shame the many countries don't share this view?
You provided an ideal statement- a true statement, yet our leaders are still afraid of being politically incorrect or being accused of xenophobism.
 

Ultimatum

Classical Liberal
At this point for Europe, restricting immigration and kicking much of them out would be the only sane thing to do. Not by "race", really, but by culture. Those who are not willing to assimilate and uphold and respect the dominant culture and the native people can go. These Muslim ghettos in European cities need to be broken up, too. Also, white Europeans need to start reproducing more because they're going to disappear if their below-replacement level reproduction rates continue. (Same for the Japanese.) They also need to stop this refugee foolishness and send those boat people right back out to where they came from. America has an insane refugee program, too. If we don't wake up to this, we're going to face the same problem that Europe is facing.

Sounds harsh, but that's reality. These are very dire times.

A very right-wing view, but nonetheless I somewhat agree. If you read the post previous to this one, however, it is something that our leaders don't have the backbone to do.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
A very right-wing view, but nonetheless I somewhat agree. If you read the post previous to this one, however, it is something that our leaders don't have the backbone to do.

Yeah, I suppose my views are going more towards the right as time goes on, despite the fact that I'm actually a leftist when it comes to socio-economic organization (I'm a vehement anti-capitalist). Maybe I'm a national socialist in the true sense of those words, and not in the sense of the horrific German political ideology.

No, I don't hold out much hope for the West. Neither the politicians or the masses have the backbone to do what needs to be done. They are apathetic, materialist, hedonistic, emasculated, politically correct nihilists. They're not fit for survival and it's their own fault. The people of the Middle East, North Africa and Southeast Asia are virile, have a strong purpose, disciplined and have no fear of death, so they will win.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Is there such a thing/will there ever be such a thing as politically acceptable racism?- for lack of a better word.
For example, could there ever be a time where a country denies a race (due to overwhelming net immigration numbers of that race, for example) entry into a country?
I believe that there will be a time when this happens, at least, for my United Kingdom (considering, of course, that it is a small country that is attractive such as what Switzerland is). For a country union citizen, such as an American, this will seem like a silly idea- but this is fine for your geographically large country.
Whilst I understand that the term "overpopulation" is subjective, I believe that if it is in the country's best interest to push back migrants due to "overpopulation", then it should be understood and still seen as "politically correct" by the rest of the world.

Thoughts?

Nah..... No good.
If we in the UK want to slow immigration, then it will be a general slowing of immigration, rather than focusing upon a particular race, creed, colour or nationality.
So..... No.

Why? What race did you have in mind?
 

Ultimatum

Classical Liberal
Nah..... No good.
If we in the UK want to slow immigration, then it will be a general slowing of immigration, rather than focusing upon a particular race, creed, colour or nationality.
So..... No.

Why? What race did you have in mind?

It doesn't matter what timeframe it will take place over, or even what race.
 
Some liberals and so-called "Social Justice Warriors" think it's politically correct to hate White people.

I also see a lot of antagonism and racism towards Asian-Americans, but this seems to be largely brushed off by most people.
 
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