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Politically correct

Curious George

Veteran Member
I hear everyone complain about PC. So much so that I took for granted that people were constantly dealing with having to monitor their speech in an attempt not to offend.

Now, however, I am wondering. What exactly is it that you cannot say? I guess I understand you wanting a safe space to speak freely because others are going to attack you for saying not so PC things. But I don't get what you want to say?

Could you please help me out here and explain. Please do not offer extremists who jump on people at the slightest hint of offense. We have all seen the youtube videos of extremists, spouting craziness, on boother sides of politics.

I am asking how regular folk are censoring their everyday speech because other regular folk are offended. Do you want to tell black jokes at the office? Do you want to compliment the waitress on her tits? If you could help me out I would appreciate it, because I am starting to think that people don't have to really change their speech at all and the whole thing is another instance of categorizing the left based on a small group of extremists. I am wondering, because the problem is certainly not presented like it is the extremists.
 

Skipper

Wrong is wrong,/ Make America moral again.
Everyday speech:

  1. Be polite.
  2. Be respectful
  3. Be courteous
  4. Do not use insulting words
  5. Speak to others the way you want to be others to speak to you.
  6. Listen to other viewpoints. You may learn something important.
 

socharlie

Active Member
I hear everyone complain about PC. So much so that I took for granted that people were constantly dealing with having to monitor their speech in an attempt not to offend.

Now, however, I am wondering. What exactly is it that you cannot say? I guess I understand you wanting a safe space to speak freely because others are going to attack you for saying not so PC things. But I don't get what you want to say?

Could you please help me out here and explain. Please do not offer extremists who jump on people at the slightest hint of offense. We have all seen the youtube videos of extremists, spouting craziness, on boother sides of politics.

I am asking how regular folk are censoring their everyday speech because other regular folk are offended. Do you want to tell black jokes at the office? Do you want to compliment the waitress on her tits? If you could help me out I would appreciate it, because I am starting to think that people don't have to really change their speech at all and the whole thing is another instance of categorizing the left based on a small group of extremists. I am wondering, because the problem is certainly not presented like it is the extremists.
it is a mind control.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Once upon a time in the U.S. any white man could slander any black person, or any gay person, anyone from a foreign "sh*thole country", and do so in public. And even if some of the people who heard his remarks found them both stupid and harmful, they rarely would dare to express their contempt.

Now, however, social dynamics have changed, and the people who find these comments stupid and harmful will likely say so, out loud, and to the person spewing the remarks. Which is exactly as it should be, and should have always been.

But the end result of this social change is that the automatic privilege that white people (mostly men) used to enjoy when speaking their minds in public, is gone. And now they are being held accountable for their foolish and harmful slander of others, by those members of the public that find it contemptible. And this public reaction to privileged bigotry has for some odd reason been labeled "political correctness". Which was an odd choice of label, since what it really is, is a new and vocal public scrutiny and criticism of a bigoted status quo.
 
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Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Where do you live that you hear everyone talking about political correctness? Were you using hyperbole here? This is very much at odds with my own experiences.

At any rate, the whole concept of 'political correctness' just leaves me scratching my head. I don't really understand it. Since when did "don't act like a jerk" need to be politicized? Folks in my neck of the woods don't politicize common decency and manners. :shrug:
 

Curious George

Veteran Member
Where do you live that you hear everyone talking about political correctness? Were you using hyperbole here? This is very much at odds with my own experiences.

At any rate, the whole concept of 'political correctness' just leaves me scratching my head. I don't really understand it. Since when did "don't act like a jerk" need to be politicized? Folks in my neck of the woods don't politicize common decency and manners. :shrug:
Washington, Oregon, and California.

Yes it was hyperbole. I should have articulated better. Many, many people complain about political correctness .
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
I hear everyone complain about PC. So much so that I took for granted that people were constantly dealing with having to monitor their speech in an attempt not to offend.

Now, however, I am wondering. What exactly is it that you cannot say? I guess I understand you wanting a safe space to speak freely because others are going to attack you for saying not so PC things. But I don't get what you want to say?

Could you please help me out here and explain. Please do not offer extremists who jump on people at the slightest hint of offense. We have all seen the youtube videos of extremists, spouting craziness, on boother sides of politics.

I am asking how regular folk are censoring their everyday speech because other regular folk are offended. Do you want to tell black jokes at the office? Do you want to compliment the waitress on her tits? If you could help me out I would appreciate it, because I am starting to think that people don't have to really change their speech at all and the whole thing is another instance of categorizing the left based on a small group of extremists. I am wondering, because the problem is certainly not presented like it is the extremists.

I'm a vendor on-site the Boss of the site decided to write our bosses and sales department complaining about our work. I was copied in an wished to reply. I was told not to by my boss because even though my reply was well written and correct, it would only annoy their boss. So I am supposed to just let someone bash my work incorrectly because their feelings might be hurt and it may cost my company money.
 

Curious George

Veteran Member
Everyday speech:

  1. Be polite.
  2. Be respectful
  3. Be courteous
  4. Do not use insulting words
  5. Speak to others the way you want to be others to speak to you.
  6. Listen to other viewpoints. You may learn something important.
I am sorry, did you misunderstand the question?
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Washington, Oregon, and California.

Yes it was hyperbole. I should have articulated better. Many, many people complain about political correctness .

Does it seem plausible that the people who complain about it are probably the jerks who really need shut their mouths? :D
 

Curious George

Veteran Member
I'm a vendor on-site the Boss of the site decided to write our bosses and sales department complaining about our work. I was copied in an wished to reply. I was told not to by my boss because even though my reply was well written and correct, it would only annoy their boss. So I am supposed to just let someone bash my work incorrectly because their feelings might be hurt and it may cost my company money.
That to you is political correctness stifling your speech?
 

Curious George

Veteran Member
Does it seem plausible that the people who complain about it are probably the jerks who really need shut their mouths? :D
It would if it were extremists only. But I hear it too many times from too diverse of a group for me to accept that is the group who complain about PC.
 

Stanyon

WWMRD?
Once upon a time in the U.S. any white man could slander any black person, or any gay person, anyone from a foreign "sh*thole country", and do so in public. And even if some of the people who heard his remarks found them both stupid and harmful, they rarely would dare to express their contempt.

Now, however, social dynamics have changed, and the people who find these comments stupid and harmful will likely say so, out loud, and to the person spewing the remarks. Which is exactly as it should be, and should have always been.

But the end result of this social change is that the automatic privilege that white people (mostly men) used to enjoy when speaking their minds in public, is gone. And now they are being held accountable for their foolish and harmful slander of others, by those members of the public that find it contemptible. And this public reaction to privileged bigotry has for some odd reason been labeled "political correctness". Which was an odd choice of label, since what it really is, is a new and vocal public scrutiny and criticism of a bigoted status quo.

Only white people can be stupid, racist, and bigoted? What bubble are you living in or do you just have an agenda to please.
 

Curious George

Veteran Member
I think the big one would be

If a members of a social minority tell you that using certain terms to refer to said group are disrespectful and un-courteous, they probably are.
You think the people complaining want to use language that is disrespectful and discourteous?
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
I hear everyone complain about PC. So much so that I took for granted that people were constantly dealing with having to monitor their speech in an attempt not to offend.

Now, however, I am wondering. What exactly is it that you cannot say? I guess I understand you wanting a safe space to speak freely because others are going to attack you for saying not so PC things. But I don't get what you want to say?

Could you please help me out here and explain. Please do not offer extremists who jump on people at the slightest hint of offense. We have all seen the youtube videos of extremists, spouting craziness, on boother sides of politics.

I am asking how regular folk are censoring their everyday speech because other regular folk are offended. Do you want to tell black jokes at the office? Do you want to compliment the waitress on her tits? If you could help me out I would appreciate it, because I am starting to think that people don't have to really change their speech at all and the whole thing is another instance of categorizing the left based on a small group of extremists. I am wondering, because the problem is certainly not presented like it is the extremists.


I suppose for me it's the need to treat folks differently because of their supposed disadvantage.

Some people have become hypersensitive about gender, race, religion, sexual orientation, culture etc... To me this is all superfluous stuff.

When I'm dealing with individual people I these things don't even come to mind.

It's hard to know what everybody else in the world is going to be offended by. Myself, I don't get offended easily, especially were no offense was intended.

For example it I were to say something like "Mexico is a country I don't want to visit and certainly not live in", I could see where someone might take this as a racist comment. Or if I were to ask where someone was from originally, some might see this as xenophobic.
 

sandy whitelinger

Veteran Member
I hear everyone complain about PC. So much so that I took for granted that people were constantly dealing with having to monitor their speech in an attempt not to offend.

Now, however, I am wondering. What exactly is it that you cannot say? I guess I understand you wanting a safe space to speak freely because others are going to attack you for saying not so PC things. But I don't get what you want to say?

Could you please help me out here and explain. Please do not offer extremists who jump on people at the slightest hint of offense. We have all seen the youtube videos of extremists, spouting craziness, on boother sides of politics.

I am asking how regular folk are censoring their everyday speech because other regular folk are offended. Do you want to tell black jokes at the office? Do you want to compliment the waitress on her tits? If you could help me out I would appreciate it, because I am starting to think that people don't have to really change their speech at all and the whole thing is another instance of categorizing the left based on a small group of extremists. I am wondering, because the problem is certainly not presented like it is the extremists.
I live amongst the hillbillies and the rednecks. Being politically correct means never drive a Dodge. Take the first day of hunting season off from work. The opening of trout season is an event. If ya think sum un ain't speak n right an ya try n corral em...well ya best be ready to debate all morn and the loser buys coffee.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
You think the people complaining want to use language that is disrespectful and discourteous?

Really just want to use the same language we use around everyone else. It used to be treating everyone equal was a moral thing to do. Now a days you have to treat people differently depending on what group identity they associate themselves with.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
I live amongst the hillbillies and the rednecks. Being politically correct means never drive a Dodge. Take the first day of hunting season off from work. The opening of trout season is an event. If ya think sum un ain't speak n right an ya try n corral em...well ya best be ready to debate all morn and the loser buys coffee.

Which is cool I think. It's great when people are comfortable enough around me that they can just be themselves without having to worry about offending me.

Wait, I drive a Dodge... What's wrong with Dodge?
 
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