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Poll: Is Woke a new religion?
- Thread starter icehorse
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Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Radicalism and the urge to immediately force your views on others at any and all costs.
That's essentially "woke".
That's essentially "woke".
Your only option for "no" also says "and I'm offended by the question." The thread is a loaded question from the start.
I don't think this is a serious question or one that is conducive to meaningful debate, but to answer the OP, I consider all forms of ideological zeal—religious or otherwise—to have some common factors. Depending on how one defines "wokeness," it could have some shared elements with religious extremism, such as strong tribalism, refusal to consider evidence, and lack of exposure to different arguments. It could also be something completely benign and even necessary in some situations. The term is highly malleable and vague by itself.
I don't think this is a serious question or one that is conducive to meaningful debate, but to answer the OP, I consider all forms of ideological zeal—religious or otherwise—to have some common factors. Depending on how one defines "wokeness," it could have some shared elements with religious extremism, such as strong tribalism, refusal to consider evidence, and lack of exposure to different arguments. It could also be something completely benign and even necessary in some situations. The term is highly malleable and vague by itself.
The Kilted Heathen
Crow FreyjasmaðR
What marvelous options.
No, being "woke" is not a religion.
No, being "woke" is not a religion.
The Kilted Heathen
Crow FreyjasmaðR
The term itself is fine when the context is recognized. I don't know if you've seen where I've posted this, but it bears repeating. "Woke" or "stay woke" has origins in the 1930's, specifically from African-American Vernacular English, to denote vigilance and awareness to racial injustices still persisting. It was coined by the songwriter Huddie Ledbetter, who said "I advise everybody, be a little careful when they go along through there – best stay woke, keep their eyes open." Use of it persisted in the slang of telling people to "Wake up" when they needed to be aware of things around them, and by 2010 the notion had expanded to social awareness of several forms of injustice.
It's how Conservatives - typically their extremists - use the term that is vague and malleable.
exchemist
Veteran Member
Woke is a jolly convenient term for a bit of closet, comfortable, middle-clas racism.
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I know how the term originated; I'm referring to current usage. When someone refers to themselves as "woke," it strikes me as a bit self-aggrandizing at best, but I have rarely seen anyone do that. Most of the time, it's used by ideologues to dismiss anything they dislike, such as support for LGBT rights and availability of reproductive health care.
When the term is used in its original sense, I find that a lot of other ways are better to describe what or who is being discussed. When it is used to refer to anything an ideologue dislikes, it's diluted and politically charged to the point of meaninglessness.
I didn't vote in the poll, by the way. It's too loaded and has no options that describe my position.
Aštra’el
Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth
Yes, obviously.
It is fascinating to me how cultlike various “woke”movements have become. The sheep are pathetic, but their leaders- the ones pulling their followers’ strings and exploiting their herd’s human Nature for personal gain- I often can’t help but admire certain qualities about them.
Truth be told… I have seen this in the Left and in the Right, in wokeness and in anti-wokeness.
It is fascinating to me how cultlike various “woke”movements have become. The sheep are pathetic, but their leaders- the ones pulling their followers’ strings and exploiting their herd’s human Nature for personal gain- I often can’t help but admire certain qualities about them.
Truth be told… I have seen this in the Left and in the Right, in wokeness and in anti-wokeness.
The Kilted Heathen
Crow FreyjasmaðR
I will say I don't think I have heard anyone ever seriously refer to themselves as "woke" as an identifying ideology.
Secret Chief
Very strong language
Ooh, edgy.
Secret Chief
Very strong language
I voted "No and it's a loaded question."
Secret Chief
Very strong language
You know when you give a **** about others? That's woke.
We Never Know
No Slack
What exactly is woke?
I'm waiting for the 'Poll: Is Sleep a New Religion' thread.
Well that's never gonna happen on my watch!
No more than being “non woke” is.
Ask 5 people to define what it is exactly and you’ll get 10 different answers
I will say, as someone who was heavily into the “non woke” crowd for a while. There was a lot of rhetorical tools used by those who promoted the concept which were oddly reminiscent of religious conviction. It was known collectively as the “alt right pipeline” in some online spaces.
There was quite a bit of toxicity there, ngl
Ask 5 people to define what it is exactly and you’ll get 10 different answers
I will say, as someone who was heavily into the “non woke” crowd for a while. There was a lot of rhetorical tools used by those who promoted the concept which were oddly reminiscent of religious conviction. It was known collectively as the “alt right pipeline” in some online spaces.
There was quite a bit of toxicity there, ngl