Father Heathen
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If it wasn't for "woke" laws protecting your rights, what do you expect could happen to you as a trans person?
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Poll: Is Woke a new religion?
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Sand Dancer
Currently catless
What is it called when the right does those things?
In the sense that folks who identify with that kind of ideology can be dogmatic and engage in black and white, simplistic thinking, sure.
Beyond that, calling it a religion is a stretch.
We Never Know
No Slack
So its about race/racial?
Yerda
Veteran Member
More of an outlook, from what I gather.
No-one I know calls themselves woke, and I don't really ever hear of it beyond a few, terminally online, exasperated dopes fretting that the wokes are coming to take away free speech, cancel the West and trans all the children.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Yup. I too call bull on that one.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Wyatt Cenac has described himself as woke in at least one of his shows (I think it was HBO, policing in America was central and overall topic in it).
I also recall seeing a dude holding a sign that said "Stay Woke!" at a BLM protest.
It seems that "woke" is just the latest euphemism for what used to be called "politically correct," although that term still seems to be used. There's a movie from 1994 called PCU which parodies political correctness: PCU (1994) - IMDb
Interestingly, I came across a more recent article about that movie, addressing claims that Hollywood is trying to bury the movie because it...well...isn't woke. But apparently that's not the case: Did You Know 'PCU' Was Being Canceled? (It's Not) (nofilmschool.com)
That article has some more interesting thoughts about "woke" culture.
The irony is that, after 30+ years of PC, or "wokeness," we seemingly have more hatred, bigotry, and intolerance now than we did 30-40 years ago.
That's why it's subject to even more criticism nowadays, since it doesn't work. It's a failed tactic.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Well, it is pretty much one group of snowflakes who uses it 99.999% of the time.Woke isn't a religion. It's become a slur/trigger word used by fragile snowflakes.
(Yes, I am aware of the irony--it's deliberate.)
Not really. Sure, they're the loudest, but I have issues with some of the current habit of publically cancelling people, history, or other items.
I ain't conservative.
Just maybe not loud and obnoxious enough to be noticed.
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How often does public "canceling" happen, though? From what I have seen, it's usually that a private entity or platform refuses to host someone or their speech, and they or someone else considers this "cancellation" and complains about it while the "canceled" person gets a massive amount of publicity and support from other groups.
An example of this is Dave Chappelle: his content is still on Netflix, he has a lot of fans, and he's still speaking his mind publicly... yet some will say he was "canceled" and treat him as a martyr. And even if Netflix had dropped his content, that wouldn't have canceled him because 1) it's a private platform, and 2) he could have marketed himself elsewhere.
The same goes for the subject of history: a lot of the controversies I have seen in that regard seem to me overblown at best. Saying that Mount Rushmore may be problematic or that it is inappropriate to celebrate Columbus despite his crimes doesn't seem to me an example of "canceling" any history in the slightest, because it doesn't remove any facts from history classes and books or change anything about written history. But there are people who may passionately argue that these are examples of "canceling" history.
There are some instances of overreaction and excessive groupthink, sure, but overall, I think most canceling and demonization of people or even entire groups, distortion of history, and vilification of items associated with "evil groups" (e.g., Pagans) come from the groups who most often use "woke" as a term of denigration toward others.
Being “cancelled” is just a marketing tactic imo.
Boycotts have existed for decades. They were a way that supposedly made the voice/opinion of the public known, through peaceful means.
Seems as though those who don’t like facing the consequences of their own actions/opinions like to cry victim and claim that they’re being cancelled, as though it were an affront to their own rights.
Like JK Rowling or that lady who threw a temper tantrum when her book wasn’t published. Only for it to be published by another company. I’ll see if I can track her down, because it was a pretty weird situation lol
To be fair though, folks across the political spectrum have used such publicity to their advantage
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In my country there is no wokeism.
Wokeism is in the US.
Where drag queens read fairy tales to children.
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You never had Dame Edna Everage read fairy tales to your kids?
How sheltered you guys must be!
Poor possums!!
(I’m mostly joking. But “drag performance” is actually an entertainment tradition in the West that technically goes back centuries.
Lols I guess Ancient Greek theatre was woke all along, eh?)
But it wouldn't be woke to have...trans women like you read fairy tales to kids?
I have trans women who are friends of mine. They are not interested in reading fairy tales to kindergarten or first grade kids because that's not their job. They are neither teachers nor entertainers.
And they are not interested in working with kids.
They and I gossip about men, that's what we are into.
And by the way....
I have remarked something that I find really weird. Here trans women are into men, except very rare cases.
I am not understanding why so many trans women are into cisgender women, in the United States. I find it really weird, honestly.