Yes, restaurants are opening here (outdoor only), but the cases are going up too fast for my comfort in such environments. We've had carry-out through this whole ordeal. With proper precautions, it can be safe.
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Poll: Protests and Coronavirus
- Thread starter Rational Agnostic
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Yes, restaurants are opening here (outdoor only), but the cases are going up too fast for my comfort in such environments. We've had carry-out through this whole ordeal. With proper precautions, it can be safe.
Rational Agnostic
Well-Known Member
Well, according to Worldometer - real time world statistics
COVID deaths this year: 375,911
Auto Accident deaths this year: 564,053
Care to look at the US numbers?
Given that the number of COVID deaths in the US is more than the number of auto deaths added to the total US deaths from the Vietnam war, well, it is quite a problem.
Rational Agnostic
Well-Known Member
I live in an area where COVID has been very rare (approximately 1 in 30,000 to 50,000 people diagnosed per day). I believe small gatherings and businesses can safely open here. However, I am not far from Minneapolis, and worry that the recent protests will cause COVID to blow up in my area. There were stay at home protests in my area before, which I supported due to the (1) small size of the protests, and (2) rarity of COVID in my area.
Rational Agnostic
Well-Known Member
Of course COVID is a problem in the US. I'm certainly not denying it.
Wandering Monk
Well-Known Member
It is going to be tragic. They are wrong for not masking and social distancing. You can stop your ******* gloat now.
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Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Do MAGAts ever admit mistakes?
Rational Agnostic
Well-Known Member
As I've repeatedly told you, I didn't vote for Trump in 2016 and have no plans to vote for him in 2020. Did I make a mistake in my prediction? No, because I was predicting for the entire world by the end of the year. It is too early to know if I will be right or not. But as of now it's looking like I will be.
People, people, people.....let's make this discussion less personally hostile.
We have issues. Discuss them.
We have issues. Discuss them.
Altfish
Veteran Member
The poll options are not good - you should have "another option"So, what do ya think? Is it OK for liberals to spread coronavirus and not conservatives? Are the BLM protests justified because of their importance, even if they lead to coronavirus deaths? No doubt this will be a controversial thread but I'm ready for the responses.
Yes it will cause more deaths
Wandering Monk
Well-Known Member
I was completely wrong. I conflated you with another poster. I hope you can forgive me for that.
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Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Covid deaths at this point have exceeded 400,000. Amd also keep in mind, driving this year as normal and has been going all year, albiet with a slowdown. America in particular with over 100000 dead in such a short time. And lets look at it like this:
Fatality Estimates
In 2019, an estimated 38,800 people lost their lives to car crashes – a 2% decline from 2018 (39,404 deaths) and a 4% decline from 2017 (40,231 deaths). About 4.4 million people were injured seriously enough to require medical attention in crashes last year – also a 2% decrease over 2018 figures.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
First of all, I selected Curtain #3.So, what do ya think? Is it OK for liberals to spread coronavirus and not conservatives? Are the BLM protests justified because of their importance, even if they lead to coronavirus deaths? No doubt this will be a controversial thread but I'm ready for the responses.
Secondly, police brutality and violent "protests" are neither liberal nor conservative-- they're unethical.
Rational Agnostic
Well-Known Member
Ok no problem
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Loaded poll, loaded statement. The only ones condoning looting and rioting are extremists with many views inherently not worth considering.Loaded? What about double standards? Liberals were previously encouraging police to arrest people for attending funerals. But looting, rioting, and other mass gatherings that will certainly spread Coronavirus faster than anything we've seen? Oh, that stuff is all good.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Definitely. I really miss going to the gym, especially for the elliptical for an ultra-minimal aerobic workout that is suitably for my knee, and I enjoy the red light therapy tube thingy. I also just have too much wrong with my body to want to risk adding oxygen deprivation unless it's necessary. And the risk of critical illness is much higher than it is the risk of death. Amd it sounds like a very nasty illness I just don't want.
It would be great to go to the Fox theater for a throwback movie or orchestra performance. Or go to a casino to try poker in that setting. Or sit down in a restaurant and have a margarita with dinner. But none of that is worth the risk of ending up in the hospital, gasping for air, your organs being starved of oxygen and damaged from it. Intubation is not something I want to go through. I am just fine staying home until I am forced back out (I assume at the end of the month when federal unemployment benefits expire and I have to go back out and work).
So, what do ya think? Is it OK for liberals to spread coronavirus and not conservatives? Are the BLM protests justified because of their importance, even if they lead to coronavirus deaths? No doubt this will be a controversial thread but I'm ready for the responses.
Most of the deaths are among the elderly in nursing facilities. With proper safeguards at the nursing facilities, the protest shouldn't have an effect on them. We know how to eliminate half of the deaths. That's on us and how we care for the elderly.
Wandering Monk
Well-Known Member
In my state, the number of people dying from Covid who are not in nursing homes is 20% of the total Covid deaths here.