Poll: Should homosexuals be chaste?

[Zaha Torte]

They are less likely to look down on people because of engaging in sexual sins that are more likely to be considered gross.

Interesting.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Some people may also have been brainwashed into thinking that avoiding masturbation makes someone sexually frustrated.

I know from experience that it does. The body will find an outlet for it somehow.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Within certain corners of Christianity and I should think in other religions too, there is much disapproval of homosexual activity...

Those who don't want to exterminate LGBT people say they are against the "sin" but love the "sinner"

And everything is OK with having "same sex attraction", so long as you don't do anything gay, and don't have gay thoughts!

People have evolved to want and require a significant other - to have intimacy, commitment, and companionship. That's human nature...

So is to say that LGBT people should be chaste to deny them their humanity?

Should homosexuals be chaste?

I say no:

Homosexuality is an important part of the human condition and is perfectly natural

Dang right homosexuals should be chaste.

If I am not getting any then no one should be getting any!

 

[Skywalker]

Interesting.

Why do people speak of this sin different from how they speak of other sexual sin? They don't refer to other sexual sin as against nature and we aren't meant to have those kinds of relationships. They say those aren't how things are supposed to be.

 

[Zaha Torte]

I know from experience that it does. The body will find an outlet for it somehow.

Yeah - it's called church.

 

[Zaha Torte]

Why do people speak of this sin different from how they speak of other sexual sin? They don't refer to other sexual sin as against nature and we aren't meant to have those kinds of relationships. They say those aren't how things are supposed to be.

I would suppose that one leads to reproduction and the other doesn't.

I thought that your stance on pride was interesting. I wasn't really saying anything about homosexuals.

I don't care.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

I voted no. If straights can have sex in consensual relationships, so can gays.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

I voted no. If straights can have sex in consensual relationships, so can gays.

Who says straight can morally have sex in relationship simply because they are consensual? Not me, and not the Torah. I have been divorced for 28 years now, and will likely never remarry. That means no sex. I don't ask for anything more from a gay than I ask of from myself.

 

[Trailblazer]

Who says straight can morally have sex in relationship simply because they are consensual?

Logistically speaking, they CAN have sex if they have a partner, even if it is immoral.

 

[amorphous_constellation]

I don't necessarily agree with this statement. I think it's more accurately to say they've become conditioned to want or require a significant other. This, as I see it, is a learned behavior, not an inherent one.

I think that maybe this disagreement is another example of the current sort of internal war in psychology.. You can find just as many articles advocating for cultivating the disconnected self, as you can for cultivating connection. I think there is room for preference and idiosyncrasy, but the question is, what condition is most suitable for the majority? I thought I had read that only 3 or 4 percent of people are truly asexual, and perhaps long-term disconnection might cause brain damage - but who knows if any of that is true, if there is considerable advocacy for fortifying yourself with extreme self reliance. Also, there is input on which mode is more natural; which condition are we more predispositioned to lock into. I suppose the trajectory of technology seems to advocate for naturally selecting humans with a lot more 'self' to their selves

 

[Skywalker]

I already told you this. It actually doesn't mean "female homosexual" to all those who self-describe as lesbian. To some it does in fact refer to non-standard gender role, rather than sexuality. And like i also said, bisexuals sometimes use the term as well. So it has a bunch of connotations, most of which are still not universal.



Uh, probably not. I mean, assuming Sodom and Gomorrah are real to begin with, but if they were, they predate the word because the word itself is Latin. Which didn't exist at the time claimed.

You should probably read Wikipedia or some other source for things like this. I can't be expected to explain all word etymologies to you. English isn't even my native language.

/E: It is important to note that the word does predate the writing of the Bible at least. Possibly the writing of the Torah as well.

/E2: I caved in and went to Wikipedia after all. The word itself is from the 4th century. It's specifically Ecclesiastical Latin. The original Greek word it's based on however is ancient. No one knows how old exactly.

Does bisexual ever apply to a non standard gender role?

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Does bisexual ever apply to a non standard gender role?

You can be a bisexual and still be a girly girl.

I think "gender role" has more to do with whether you are cis or trans.

 

[Skywalker]

You can be a bisexual and still be a girly girl.

I think "gender role" has more to do with whether you are cis or trans.

Someone can still be a girly girl and have the gender personality traits related to gender nonconformity as a child.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Someone can still be a girly girl and have the gender personality traits related to gender nonconformity as a child.

Can you describe this? I'm not really sure what you are talking about. To me, a "girly girl" is a female you subscribes to the gender specific roles, especially clothing.

 

[Skywalker]

Can you describe this? I'm not really sure what you are talking about. To me, a "girly girl" is a female you subscribes to the gender specific roles, especially clothing.

Gender nonconformity has nothing to do with being cis or trans, it has to do with how the relationship between the child and either same or opposite gender parent influenced their femininity or masculinity.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Gender nonconformity has nothing to do with being cis or trans, it has to do with how the relationship between the child and either same or opposite gender parent influenced their femininity or masculinity.

That is a hypothesis about HOW a person comes to be gender cis or trans. It has nothing to do with the definition.

 

[Skywalker]

That is a hypothesis about HOW a person comes to be gender cis or trans. It has nothing to do with the definition.

Gender nonconformity is not the same as gender dysphoria. They don't believe they are a man in a woman's body or vice versa, but they have don't identify with the masculine or feminine in a way they would if they were raised a different way.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Gender nonconformity has nothing to do with being cis or trans, it has to do with how the relationship between the child and either same or opposite gender parent influenced their femininity or masculinity.

Explain how this works, if you would.

 

[rational experiences]

Chaste owns a lot of descriptive words some of which I agree with.

Not sexually soliciting in public view lewdness. Keep it to yourself in private. I agree with. Have some self control.

Marriage is a status for agreement for sexual engagement. By law it was for civilization ownership ruling for inheritance. marriage in life is meant to be a living chosen union.

Everyone of us is a virgin. Born that way. Sex is the marriage actually.

 

[Martin]

"Should religious bigots shut up?"

Definitely!