pope made homophobic slur

[Eddi]

The pope made an horrendous homophobic slur

Vatican remains silent over Pope's alleged homophonic comments

The Pope (pictured today at a World Children's Day event in Rome) has not broken his silence after reports claimed he denounced the 'air of f*****ry' in the church

www.dailymail.co.uk

I'm not angry I'm disappointed

It sends out the wrong message, that such language is acceptable

He should have known better

Shame on him!

 

[Rival]

It's suggested he didn't realize how offensive it was.

I find that hilarious. He didn't do it on purpose.

 

[Eddi]

He didn't do it on purpose.

I hope he didn't

But he should be more careful

He is literally the spiritual leader of over a billion souls

That comes with great responsibility

 

[viole]

The pope made an horrendous homophobic slur

Vatican remains silent over Pope's alleged homophonic comments

The Pope (pictured today at a World Children's Day event in Rome) has not broken his silence after reports claimed he denounced the 'air of f*****ry' in the church

www.dailymail.co.uk

I'm not angry I'm disappointed

It sends out the wrong message, that such language is acceptable

He should have known better

Shame on him!

No surprise here.

ciao

- viole

 

[Rival]

No surprise here.

ciao

- viole

Really? You think Pope Francis is prone to using slurs?

Any evidence of this, or just your own spectacular bias?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

The pope made an horrendous homophobic slur

Vatican remains silent over Pope's alleged homophonic comments

The Pope (pictured today at a World Children's Day event in Rome) has not broken his silence after reports claimed he denounced the 'air of f*****ry' in the church

www.dailymail.co.uk

I'm not angry I'm disappointed

It sends out the wrong message, that such language is acceptable

He should have known better

Shame on him!

What did you expect?

There's a reason why the two go-to sarcastic responses that mean "the answer to your question is obviously yes" are "does a bear **** in the woods?" and "is the Pope Catholic?"

The Pope is Catholic. He will often express Catholic ideas, including homophobic Catholic ideas.

 

[SalixIncendium]

No surprise here.

ciao

- viole

No surprise here.

 

[Rival]

I hope some people here realize Italian is not the Pope's first language.

He has messed up before and he's an old man.

 

[SalixIncendium]

What did you expect?

There's a reason why the two go-to sarcastic responses that mean "the answer to your question is obviously yes" are "does a bear **** in the woods?" and "is the Pope Catholic?"

The Pope is Catholic. He will often express Catholic ideas, including homophobic Catholic ideas.

I wasn't expecting the slur, but what I am expecting is for atheists to jump all over this to **** on Catholicism.

Hecks, we already have some doing exactly that in this very thread.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Really? You think Pope Francis is prone to using slurs?

Any evidence of this, or just your own spectacular bias?

It's certainly not the first time he's directed slurs as LGBTQ people:

Pope Francis on gay rights: His 5 worst quotes

The new pontiff is being hailed as a fresh choice, but there's nothing new about his opposition to gay rights

www.salon.com

 

[Rival]

For those who didn't bother reading the article:

Some suggested the comments were an honest translation mistake for the Pope, for whom Italian is a second language, and that he 'did not know' how offensive the word was.

 

[Rival]

It's certainly not the first time he's directed slurs as LGBTQ people:

Pope Francis on gay rights: His 5 worst quotes

The new pontiff is being hailed as a fresh choice, but there's nothing new about his opposition to gay rights

www.salon.com

Yawn. These are standard views, not slurs.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

For those who didn't bother reading the article:

Some suggested the comments were an honest translation mistake for the Pope, for whom Italian is a second language, and that he 'did not know' how offensive the word was.

Did you bother to read it?

The issue isn't just with a single word. Replace that particular slur with a more neutral term for a homosexual person and what he said is still derogatory:

Italian media has quoted the Pope as having said: 'Look, there is already an air of f*****ry going around that isn't good.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Yawn. These are standard views, not slurs.

That was my point earlier: the homophobia the Pope expressed in that recent speech - and many other times in the past - is just standard Catholic doctrine.

This doesn't nullify what the Pope said; it condemns the Catholic Church.

 

[Rival]

Did you bother to read it?

The issue isn't just with a single word. Replace that particular slur with a more neutral term for a homosexual person and what he said is still derogatory:

Yes, I can see some having an issue with the way he worded it.

Again though, he is an old man. He phrases things the way my over 80 year old grandpa does; he's not deliberately trying to be offensive.

He's also saying that gay men are plenty in this institution and allowing more gay men in where they are meant to be celibate in a place full of men is not exactly helpful for them.

It isn't good that there is gay sex going on there. Somewhat obviously for Catholics.

 

[Estro Felino]

Guys...come on...
the word he used...I mean...half of Italy has been laughing since this early morning. Non-stop.

I guess he (allegedly) used a slur that means to target those passive, feminized priests.

bergoglio? uno di noi: ‘nella chiesa c'è troppa aria di frociaggine. le checche vanno messe...-video

DAGOREPORT PAPA FRANCESCO Parecchi vescovi italiani riferiscono, basiti, che questa settimana, intervenendo all’assemblea generale della Cei, Papa Francesco ha ribadito pubblicamente, ma a porte chiuse, la sua nota contrarietà ad ammettere al sacerdozio candidati con

m.dagospia.com

Maybe implying that those hyper-masculine active gays are okay?

I mean..according to a book written by a journalist, a Monsignor makes his "nocturnal pals" call him Jessica.

 

[Eddi]

What did you expect?

There's a reason why the two go-to sarcastic responses that mean "the answer to your question is obviously yes" are "does a bear **** in the woods?" and "is the Pope Catholic?"

The Pope is Catholic. He will often express Catholic ideas, including homophobic Catholic ideas.

There is a difference between disapproving of something and using hateful language

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

That was my point earlier: the homophobia the Pope expressed in that recent speech - and many other times in the past - is just standard Catholic doctrine.

This doesn't nullify what the Pope said; it condemns the Catholic Church.

Do you have any evidence as evidence for it? I mean I understand it using norms and feelings, but to me it is politics. But that is opinion and not evidence.

 

[Rival]

Guys...come on...
the word he used...I mean...half of Italy has been laughing since this early morning. Non-stop.

I guess he (allegedly) used a slur that means to target those passive, feminized priests.

bergoglio? uno di noi: ‘nella chiesa c'è troppa aria di frociaggine. le checche vanno messe...-video

DAGOREPORT PAPA FRANCESCO Parecchi vescovi italiani riferiscono, basiti, che questa settimana, intervenendo all’assemblea generale della Cei, Papa Francesco ha ribadito pubblicamente, ma a porte chiuse, la sua nota contrarietà ad ammettere al sacerdozio candidati con

m.dagospia.com

Maybe implying that those hyper-masculine active gays are okay?

I mean..according to a book written by a journalist, a Monsignor makes his "nocturnal pals" call him Jessica.

It's just the usual suspects who want to **** all over the Catholic Church for not being as liberal as they are and throw around words like 'homophobic'.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Yes, I can see some having an issue with the way he worded it.

Again though, he is an old man. He phrases things the way my over 80 year old grandpa does; he's not deliberately trying to be offensive.

Do your 80-year-old grandpa's outdated opinions end up influencing policy that affects millions or billions of lives?

He's also saying that gay men are plenty in this institution and allowing more gay men in where they are meant to be celibate in a place full of men is not exactly helpful for them.

It isn't good that there is gay sex going on there. Somewhat obviously for Catholics.

Celibacy is a discipline, not a doctrine. Not all priests in communion with Rome are required to be celibate.

The issue really does come down to the Church's homophobia and its position on same-sex marriage.