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"Pope suggests it's better to be an atheist than a bad Christian"

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
And how is Obama even relevant anymore?

You don't create an empire overnight, "Rome was not built in a day", World government is the "work of ages" and we see Obama was not much different than the rest. The march doesn't stop when they change a pope or a president.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Obama is looking better and better as this new administration goes on. When even the likes of George Will says he's no long a Republican, you know there's a problem.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
If some evil mastermind
You don't create an empire overnight, "Rome was not built in a day", World government is the "work of ages" and we see Obama was not much different than the rest. The march doesn't stop when they change a pope or a president.

If some evil mastermind was actually scheming to take over the world, incorporating ancient, arbitrary, superstitious dogma would be useless baggage, not an asset.
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
If some evil mastermind


If some evil mastermind was actually scheming to take over the world, incorporating ancient, arbitrary, superstitious dogma would be useless baggage, not an asset.

It's always worked before, this time it looks like climate change is going to be the superstitious dogma.
 

Jeremiahcp

Well-Known Jerk
You don't create an empire overnight, "Rome was not built in a day", World government is the "work of ages" and we see Obama was not much different than the rest. The march doesn't stop when they change a pope or a president.

I am so glad I don't think like you.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
It's always worked before, this time it looks like climate change is going to be the superstitious dogma.

Don't you think it's a tad hypocritical to be against science yet have no qualms about using the fruits thereof, such as the technology you're using to read and post on this thread?
 

Underhill

Well-Known Member
Obama is looking better and better as this new administration goes on. When even the likes of George Will says he's no long a Republican, you know there's a problem.


GWB is starting to look better. Now that is saying something...
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Don't you think it's a tad hypocritical to be against science yet have no qualms about using the fruits thereof, such as the technology you're using to read and post on this thread?

God does not mix truth with lies, but people do, and Satan. Just because they can make a cell phone doesn't mean they won't lie about climate change to rule the world.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
God does not mix truth with lies, but people do, and Satan. Just because they can make a cell phone doesn't mean they won't lie about climate change to rule the world.

So the entirety of the international scientific community are collaborating on an immensely vast and convoluted conspiracy? Who could possibly gain from this, and how?
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
So the entirety of the international scientific community are collaborating on an immensely vast and convoluted conspiracy? Who could possibly gain from this, and how?

Not sure exactly, if I knew why they do it I would be ruling the world. I guess things like climate change and evolution weed out those truth seekers who might not accept whatever truth the authorities tell them is truth. Sort of like the teacher in the front of the classroom, answer the questions correctly and you pass the test.
 

Jeremiahcp

Well-Known Jerk
Not sure exactly, if I knew why they do it I would be ruling the world. I guess things like climate change and evolution weed out those truth seekers who might not accept whatever truth the authorities tell them is truth. Sort of like the teacher in the front of the classroom, answer the questions correctly and you pass the test.

And now that you have been identified, I am sure at any moment they will be knocking down your door to eliminate the threat of your great and powerful genius.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Not sure exactly, if I knew why they do it I would be ruling the world.
Or perhaps there is nothing to gain from fabricating climate change, but there are those who do have something to gain from ignoring it. Industries who's sole aim is maximizing profit don't want to deal with the costs of reducing their pollution, so they have their pocketed politicians convince their ignorant, uneducated, slack-jawed yokel voter base that it's a myth, so once they're elected they'll protect their owners via legislation.

I guess things like climate change and evolution weed out those truth seekers who might not accept whatever truth the authorities tell them is truth. Sort of like the teacher in the front of the classroom, answer the questions correctly and you pass the test.

You have it backwards. It's those who embrace willful ignorance and intellectual dishonesty who are easily manipulated.
 
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Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Or perhaps there is nothing to gain from fabricating climate change, but there are those who do have something to gain from ignoring it. Industries who's sole aim is maximizing profit don't want to deal with the costs of reducing their pollution, so they have the pocketed politicians convince their ignorant, uneducated, slack-jawed yokel voter base that it's a myth, so once they're elected they'll protect their owners via legislation.

There's plenty to gain, like credibility among like minded individuals. Funding to continue research. The power to get environmental laws passed based on the threat of global climate change. CARB takes in billions each year because of the threat of global climate change.

You have it backwards. It's those who embrace willful ignorance and intellectual dishonesty that are easily manipulated.

Questioning the science of something is part of science.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
There's plenty to gain, like credibility among like minded individuals. Funding to continue research. The power to get environmental laws passed based on the threat of global climate change. CARB takes in billions each year because of the threat of global climate change.
Nah, way too convoluted, unfeasible, impractical, unrealistic, and very high risk, all for such little gain. It's a goofy conspiracy tale that backwater folk swap when sitting around the TV, drinking beer and watching NASCAR or Pro Wrestling.
Questioning the science of something is part of science.

Of course, but I wouldn't consider it "questioning" to disregard an insurmountable mountain of evidence without objectively examining any of it.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Nah, way too convoluted, unfeasible, impractical, unrealistic, and very high risk, all for such little gain. It's a goofy conspiracy tale that backwater folk swap when sitting around the TV, drinking beer and watching NASCAR or Pro Wrestling.

Ok, well we disagree. CARB is likely to take in $14-$15 billion from Volkswagen because on environmental passed because of the threat of global climate change. There's much more risk in questioning it.

Of course, but I wouldn't consider it "questioning" to disregard an insurmountable mountain of evidence without objectively examining any of it.

What I have examined could lead a reasonable man to accept the truth of it, but there is no smoking gun that would make it an unquestionable fact. So people basing solutions on something they could end up being wrong about and no way to knowing if any of these solutions would have any effect if they were correct.
 
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