Porn Pastor

[DNB]

Here's another. Treat others as you wish to be treated. That's really not good advice. Such as, for me, if I worked at a grocery store and the weather is nice I would want people to leave shopping carts scattered everywhere to increase my time outside. But that is rude, and it can create a hazard. So I don't do how I would want to be done to because what I want is actually improper and can lead to property damage.
Hugs are another thing. A lot of people actually don't like being hugged, but a lot of people have a habit of just going in for a hug even if they don't known someone. They are thinking "how do I want to be treated?" It is a friendly gesture, but it makes many uncomfortable. Thus, once again "do unto other as you'd have them do unto you" is inappropriate and considerations should be made to avoid making other people uncomfortable.
Really, the only solution is a moral code that begins with empathy and considering how others want to be treated. We actually won't know in many cases, but that's ok. A simple pause or question can just as well establish connections without risking undue discomfort to another.
This is the First Tenet of the Satanic Temple.
One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.
Compare this to:
In everything, do to others what you would have them do to you.
Satan advocates we do to others acts of compassion and empathy towards all creatures. Jesus advocates doing how you want to be treated.
Proper morality cannot begin with what "I" want. Even with personal sovereignty, we mustn't infringe on the sovereignty and rights of another without a very good reason to do so (such as prohibitions against murder, theft, drunk driving, and rape). What I want, even when it appears innocent and friendly is often to conflict with the wants of another. That's just the nature of being human and existing in a finite world.
The Sixth Tenet is another point of interest.
People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.
People are fallible. We make mistakes. We rectify, resolve, and learn from them. This is Satan.
Jehovah is eternal separation and damnation. A punishment that he himself is the architect who constructed it.

Man, you're reasoning is absolutely absurd, how twisted and eisegetical, verging on childish. Do unto others, as you would haver them done unto you - does not mean disregard their desires and act as you feel to act???? It means, don't impose your personal tastes or affections upon others, but consider their feeling first - just as you expect from others.

Philippians 2:3-4
2:3. Do nothing from selfishness or empty conceit, but with humility of mind regard one another as more important than yourselves; 4. do not merely look out for your own personal interests, but also for the interests of others.

Again SW, you have such an irrational understanding of the Word of God, and have perverted it by your shallow and incompetent interpretations. I don't say this to insult, but to warn you. Look at the radical decisions that you've made, and all of them based on a fallacy. In my opinion, you've been misled by Satan, and you will continue to be.

 

[DNB]

You keep making such claims, but you never demonstrate how. I certainly haven't laid such unfriendliness at your feet. This isn't a bar fight.

I was very congenial at the start, but I find your affections towards satan unacceptable, especially when there based on such irrational and fallacious understandings of the Word of God.
Satan was a murderer from the beginning, and is the father of lies.

John 8:44
8:44. "You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The entire Bible, every single story, action, punishment, mercy, wrath and grace, all went completely over your head. Your understanding is shallow.

Or it might be the other way around. Anyone that defends all of the mythical actions of God in the Old Testament appears to have a rather shallow understanding of it.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I was very congenial at the start, but I find your affections towards satan unacceptable, especially when there based on such irrational and fallacious understandings of the Word of God.
Satan was a murderer from the beginning, and is the father of lies.

John 8:44
8:44. "You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

If one understands the Garden of Eden myth one can see that "the Serpent" was the only one that spoke the truth.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Again SW, you have such an irrational understanding of the Word of God, and have perverted it by your shallow and incompetent interpretations. I don't say this to insult, but to warn you. Look at the radical decisions that you've made, and all of them based on a fallacy. In my opinion, you've been misled by Satan, and you will continue to be.

Again you continue to throw such charges but don't back them up. All you do is say I'm wrong.
You're wrong and childish.
I can do that too. But it's beneath me. It is obviously not beneath you. I have offered explanations, reasons, and fleshed out responses. You just claim I'm shallow and mislead. But you can't say how. You can't demonstrate how.

It means, don't impose your personal tastes or affections upon others, but consider their feeling first - just as you expect from others.

It doesn't say that. It says, clearly, do unto others as you would have them do to you. Do to others how you want to be treated. It falls short when you fully work this out.

 

[DNB]

Again you continue to throw such charges but don't back them up. All you do is say I'm wrong.
You're wrong and childish.
I can do that too. But it's beneath me. It is obviously not beneath you. I have offered explanations, reasons, and fleshed out responses. You just claim I'm shallow and mislead. But you can't say how. You can't demonstrate how.

It doesn't say that. It says, clearly, do unto others as you would have them do to you. Do to others how you want to be treated. It falls short when you fully work this out.

Oh my stars! Who in the flippin' world has ever interpreted the golden rule, from any era or culture, in the manner that you did - not a single level-headed person under the sun.
Plus, your misguided sentiments are also clear in your affections towards satan, the murderer. Where in the flippin' world did you get your seven tenets from , and who in the flippin' world told you that lucifer (and his demons) originated such principles? These are ancient precepts, not solely from the Bible, that many somewhat well-intending civilizations implemented for peace and justice. There is no literature from antiquity, earlier than the Bible, that ascribes these tenets to satan or lucifer - these strictly Biblical pronouns or appellations. Thus, the Bible firmly denounces all his activities. You are being deceived, and you welcome it

Your views are fantasy, baseless and reveal the utter defiance and contempt that you have for God the Father, the Creator of all things in heaven and the earth - who will cast satan down to the pits of hell, as he deserves, on the final day.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Oh my stars! Who in the flippin' world has ever interpreted the golden rule, from any era or culture, in the manner that you did - not a single level-headed person under the sun.
Plus, your misguided sentiments are also clear in your affections towards satan, the murderer. Where in the flippin' world did you get your seven tenets from , and who in the flippin' world told you that they are to be ascribed to lucifer (and his demons)?
Your views are fantasy, baseless and reveal the utter defiance and contempt that you have for God the Father, the Creator of all things in heaven and the earth - who will cast satan down to the pits of hell, as he deserves, on the final day.

She appears to get it from this source:

About Us

I don't think anyone said that they came from those mythical beings that you mentioned. Do you still have the mistaken belief that the Satanic Temple worships Satan in any way at all?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Oh my stars! Who in the flippin' world has ever interpreted the golden rule, from any era or culture, in the manner that you did - not a single level-headed person under the sun.

Those who aren't afraid to question and challenge the words on paper.

Plus, your misguided sentiments are also clear in your affections towards satan, the murderer.

And yet Jehovah killed myriads in Bible, while Satan only killed a few and with Jehovah's permission.
Who is the murderer?

Where in the flippin' world did you get your seven tenets from

I already quoted that and cited them multiple times.
And you want to call me shallow and misguided?
But again, here they are.
THERE ARE SEVEN FUNDAMENTAL TENETS

I
One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.
II
The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.
III
One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
IV
The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.
V
Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.
VI
People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.
VII
Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.

Your views are fantasy,

I can just as easily say that about yours.
Have I?
Apparently I had my hopes set too high for civil discourse.

 

[DNB]

Those who aren't afraid to question and challenge the words on paper.

And yet Jehovah killed myriads in Bible, while Satan only killed a few and with Jehovah's permission.
Who is the murderer?

I already quoted that and cited them multiple times.
And you want to call me shallow and misguided?
But again, here they are.
THERE ARE SEVEN FUNDAMENTAL TENETS


I can just as easily say that about yours.
Have I?
Apparently I had my hopes set too high for civil discourse.

I updated my response

Oh my stars! Who in the flippin' world has ever interpreted the golden rule, from any era or culture, in the manner that you did - not a single level-headed person under the sun.
Plus, your misguided sentiments are also clear in your affections towards satan, the murderer. Where in the flippin' world did you get your seven tenets from , and who in the flippin' world told you that lucifer (and his demons) originated such principles? These are ancient precepts, not solely from the Bible, that many somewhat well-intending civilizations implemented for peace and justice. There is no literature from antiquity, earlier than the Bible, that ascribes these tenets to satan or lucifer - these strictly Biblical pronouns or appellations. Thus, the Bible firmly denounces all his activities. You are being deceived, and you welcome it

Your views are fantasy, baseless and reveal the utter defiance and contempt that you have for God the Father, the Creator of all things in heaven and the earth - who will cast satan down to the pits of hell, as he deserves, on the final day.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I updated my response

Oh my stars! Who in the flippin' world has ever interpreted the golden rule, from any era or culture, in the manner that you did - not a single level-headed person under the sun.
Plus, your misguided sentiments are also clear in your affections towards satan, the murderer. Where in the flippin' world did you get your seven tenets from , and who in the flippin' world told you that lucifer (and his demons) originated such principles? These are ancient precepts, not solely from the Bible, that many somewhat well-intending civilizations implemented for peace and justice. There is no literature from antiquity, earlier than the Bible, that ascribes these tenets to satan or lucifer - these strictly Biblical pronouns or appellations. Thus, the Bible firmly denounces all his activities. You are being deceived, and you welcome it

Your views are fantasy, baseless and reveal the utter defiance and contempt that you have for God the Father, the Creator of all things in heaven and the earth - who will cast satan down to the pits of hell, as he deserves, on the final day.

Now you just dug yourself into a whole because the body being inviolable is a new one. Confirming beliefs to science is a new one. And freedom? The Bible strictly prohibits many freedoms. Freedoms as we now them today, those too are relatively new.

You are being deceived, and you welcome it

And, again, it seems civil discourse will not be happening.

 

[DNB]

Now you just dug yourself into a whole because the body being inviolable is a new one. Confirming beliefs to science is a new one. And freedom? The Bible strictly prohibits many freedoms. Freedoms as we now them today, those too are relatively new.

And, again, it seems civil discourse will not be happening.

Sorry, not into new age nonsense!

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Sorry, not into new age nonsense!

Neither am I. New Age malarkey strongly goes against the Fifth tenet.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Neither am I. New Age malarkey strongly goes against the Fifth tenet.

I think that he may have me on ignore. When I asked him if he still believed that Satanists worship Satan all that I got was crickets.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I think that he may have me on ignore. When I asked him if he still believed that Satanists worship Satan all that I got was crickets.

It's eh and meh and whatever.
I used to believe the same things. If anything, it's grand thing for me to see where I was then and where I am now. How much I've learned and grown, come along and, yes, even improved as a human being. Back then, I too thought such petty insults and ill thought out positions was good, and I would have sounded much alike (except I would have used tons more Bible verses). But now I clearly see just how blind and dumb I was.

 

[DNB]

Neither am I. New Age malarkey strongly goes against the Fifth tenet.

...nor am I into the 7 tenets of the devil, satan

 

[Shadow Wolf]

...nor am I into the 7 tenets of the devil, satan

And?
Anything constructive to add?

 

[DNB]

And?
Anything constructive to add?

That's as constructive as it gets. Satan's the devil, do you need to know anything else?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

That's as constructive as it gets. Satan's the devil, do you need to know anything else?

Yes. Something that's actually fleshed and thought out and beyond trying to dismiss me as shallow and childish.
I can just as easily say Jehovah is the devil. Why? Look at all the people he's killed - that does include a lot of children. His laws permit slavery. They demand death for many things, and would force a woman to abort her pregnancy if it's suspected the father isn't her husband. He's so petty and insecure he demands people be killed for turning away from him and worshipping other gods. He's so self centered and narcissistic that he demands us worship him. He set up humans to fail, and punishes us all for the "sins" of Adam and Eve, despite the thing about a son not paying for the sins of the father. So Jehovah is also a liar at that.

 

[Subduction Zone]

...nor am I into the 7 tenets of the devil, satan

LOL! Satanists do not worship Satan. The tenets of Satanism do not come from Satan. Since certain Christians can be very obnoxious in their beliefs (ahem!) the Satanists appear to have found a way to irritate them even more.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yes. Something that's actually fleshed and thought out and beyond trying to dismiss me as shallow and childish.
I can just as easily say Jehovah is the devil. Why? Look at all the people he's killed - that does include a lot of children. His laws permit slavery. They demand death for many things, and would force a woman to abort her pregnancy if it's suspected the father isn't her husband. He's so petty and insecure he demands people be killed for turning away from him and worshipping other gods. He's so self centered and narcissistic that he demands us worship him. He set up humans to fail, and punishes us all for the "sins" of Adam and Eve, despite the thing about a son not paying for the sins of the father. So Jehovah is also a liar at that.

I doubt if he can properly interpret The Test of an Unfaithful Wife.