Pornography poll

[Wherenextcolumbus]

I have a long history on RF of combating malignant government regulation. Some posters might have a
heart attack at the sudden shock of my actually proposing new regulation. So I've alleviated their stress
by pointing out that I'd still cut a lot of needless regulation. Yes, I care that much about our family here.

What is needless regulation in the porn industry?

 

[Revoltingest]

What is needless regulation in the porn industry?

Curse my ambiguity!
I mean needless regulation elsewhere, eg, housing codes which regulate decorating.

 

[Wherenextcolumbus]

Curse my ambiguity!
I mean needless regulation elsewhere, eg, housing codes which regulate decorating.

Oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!

 

[freethinker44]

If you are regularly banging multiple strangers without protection, how could you ever prove you are STD free? In one of the links I provided, there was an instance of a man who was regularly tested for HIV infecting three women between tests. How can that be avoided, if not by mandating condom use?

I mean, I have nothing against mandating condom use, but if all performers in a scene just came from a clinic and have test results in hand and all consent and accept the risks, why not? Personally, if I was in porn I would always insist on using protection but that's just me.

As a rule, I disagree with any kind of "blanket" regulation of any kind, in any industry. Probably comes from working in an industrial environment and being forced to use protective equipment even if it wasn't necessary and sometimes even made my job more difficult. I can think of situations where it wouldn't be necessary, so...

 

[freethinker44]

Speaking of contracts! I think the performer should always we able to break it if they are no longer comfortable doing something.

Agreed. And I would apply this to any job. I have worked under a contracted time and it was horrible passing up better opportunities and when the job turns to crap you can't leave. Having contracts where the employee can't get out of it is just paid slave labor.

As to how actors could fight coercion and contractual obligations? Unions. Something modeled like the screen actors guild or writers guild would probably be a great start.

 

[Wherenextcolumbus]

Agreed. And I would apply this to any job. I have worked under a contracted time and it was horrible passing up better opportunities and when the job turns to crap you can't leave. Having contracts where the employee can't get out of it is just paid slave labor.

I agree with this too. I'm lucky that it's easy to leave the sector I'm in if I wanted to leave. Although it's more serious in porn since we are talking about rape

As to how actors could fight coercion and contractual obligations? Unions. Something modeled like the screen actors guild or writers guild would probably be a great start.

Cool. I also think there should be specific laws for pornography which would make it easier for porn performers to prosecute when they aren't part of a union. I think performers should be able to sue pornographers if they are coerced and to have the film removed from public view and no longer be distributed.

 

[freethinker44]

Cool. I also think there should be specific laws for pornography which would make it easier for porn performers to prosecute when they aren't part of a union. I think performers should be able to sue pornographers if they are coerced and to have the film removed from public view and no longer be distributed.

We will never be able to remove it from public view. Especially with the internet, there is no such thing as deleting something off the internet. The best they could hope for is to receive any and all profits made.

I still disagree about calling coerced sex rape. If it's consenting, it's not rape.

 

[Me Myself]

This is true that they state what they are willing to do. But I'm talking about cases when they are coerced to do something they don't want to do. For example like what happened to Lara Roxx. She was coerced to do an anal scene even though she never agreed to anal before hand and she got HIV. She said she was told if she didn't do the scene they would not pay her. She paid for her flight to do that porn scene and didn't have money to get back home.

Sounds like something went bad legally. She went there without a contract? She signed stuff without a lawyer?

All of this are risks. If they were saying they wouldnt pay her and going gainst contract by that, she had grounds for suing.

 

[Me Myself]

Speaking of contracts! I think the performer should always we able to break it if they are no longer comfortable doing something.

Thats not how responsabilities work

If you dont want to do it, dont sign the contract. Thats how it goes for every job.

People do need to own their decisions.

 

[Me Myself]

We will never be able to remove it from public view. Especially with the internet, there is no such thing as deleting something off the internet. The best they could hope for is to receive any and all profits made.

I still disagree about calling coerced sex rape. If it's consenting, it's not rape.

Pretty much.

Unless we are talking about treathening to do harm to the person or something.

Telling someone you wont be paying for something they havent done is obviously not rape

 

[Wherenextcolumbus]

We will never be able to remove it from public view. Especially with the internet, there is no such thing as deleting something off the internet. The best they could hope for is to receive any and all profits made.

I still disagree about calling coerced sex rape. If it's consenting, it's not rape.

They can stop official distribution so the pornographers who made it no longer make any money off of it.

Being coerced to do a sex act you don't want to do is rape. Rape is not just holding someone down while they are kicking and screaming. There is rape under duress.

 

[Wherenextcolumbus]

Thats not how responsabilities work

If you dont want to do it, dont sign the contract. Thats how it goes for every job.

People do need to own their decisions.

You can not treat the porn industry as any job because rape has to be avoided.

 

[Me Myself]

You can not treat the porn industry as any job because rape has to be avoided.

If you sign a contract saying you will do x, you have given your consent to x.

Thats it.

You re free to not do x, they cant physically force you, but you will do whatever time or fine that goes with breaking your contract.

 

[Wherenextcolumbus]

If you sign a contract saying you will do x, you have given your consent to x.

Thats it.

You re free to not do x, they cant physically force you, but you will do whatever time or fine that goes with breaking your contract.

I'm sorry but I don't care if someone signs a contract, rape should be avoided always. If a performer wants to walk off that set they should be able to freely do so.

 

[Me Myself]

I'm sorry but I don't care if someone signs a contract, rape should be avoided always. If a performer wants to walk off that set they should be able to freely do so.

Again, they can.

They do will face the legal consequences for breaking their contract though.

 

[Wherenextcolumbus]

Again, they can.

They do will face the legal consequences for breaking their contract though.

I said freely, FREELY so no consequences

 

[Me Myself]

I said freely, FREELY so no consequences

They can do that as long as they havent signed a contract.

Why treat sex differently than ither services provided by employees?

Taking someone somewhere against their will is kidnapping.

If there is a contract that says you must go to work from x hour to y hour then you must go. It doesnt turn into kidnapping if you tell your employer you dont want to go to work anymore because you changed your mmind and he remembers you that there will be legal repercussions.

Likewise.

Adults are the ones signing this contracts.

 

[Wherenextcolumbus]

Have a nice day

 

[Me Myself]

Have a nice life

 

[Wherenextcolumbus]

Thanks, will do