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Possible explanations for homosexuality explained.

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LittleNipper

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Kerr said:
Yeah, sexuality is much, much more complicated then to say that hetrosexuality is the only one that produce children. Unprotected sex between a man and a woman does that. The people doing it can very well be homosexual, but that they want kids.

And as a note, bringing someones wife into a discussion tend to be rather bad news for the thread in question, you know :slap:.
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Yes, they can be homosexual but the fact that they are engaged in sex with someone of the same sex, only proves that such actions are not beyond their capacity nor abhorrent as such...

But outside of marriage that would be fornication and with a married person that would be adultry.
 
Jeremiah

Jeremiah

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Kerr said:
Yeah, sexuality is much, much more complicated then to say that hetrosexuality is the only one that produce children. Unprotected sex between a man and a woman does that. The people doing it can very well be homosexual, but that they want kids.

And as a note, bringing someones wife into a discussion tend to be rather bad news for the thread in question, you know :slap:.
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"And as a note, bringing someones wife into a discussion tend to be rather bad news for the thread in question, you know"

I did not insult his wife and if you have a problem with my post report it to the mods.
 
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Kerr

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Jeremiah said:
"And as a note, bringing someones wife into a discussion tend to be rather bad news for the thread in question, you know"

I did not insult his wife and if you have a problem with my post report it the mods.
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Not a problem, I didn´t think you insulted her, just warning you :p. Another thread got cleaned because of it.
 
Jeremiah

Jeremiah

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Kerr said:
Not a problem, I didn´t think you insulted her, just warning you :p. Another thread got cleaned because of it.
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It is not your job to warn me. He can answer he question or not, it is that simple. If he has a problem with the question then he can address me. The guy has been talking about homosexual sex since he got here and I simply want to know why he is so obsessed with it.
 
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Kerr

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Jeremiah said:
It is not your job to warn me. He can answer he question or not, it is that simple. If he has a problem with the question then he can address me. The guy has been talking about homosexual sex since he got here and I simply want to know why he is so obsessed with it.
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I know... I just also thought it was a bit too personal. But fine, lets leave it here.
 
Jeremiah

Jeremiah

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Kerr said:
I know... I just also thought it was a bit too personal. But fine, lets leave it here.
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And I consider the constant bashing of homosexuals a bit too personal myself, but that certainly does not seem to put a damper in it.
 
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Autodidact

Autodidact

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atotalstranger said:
To be fair, I think these things come down to who you choose as a mate, regardless of gender.
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It's not that men aren't fantastic in bed, or don't appreciate tomboys, or anything like that. It's just Biology. A woman knows what it feels like to have female anatomy. And women are more like other women, (in general) sexually. I wouldn't worry about it, 98% of women are devoted heterosexuals, so it's not like women are going to defect en masse over it. But it's nice to get a perk to make up for being discriminated against.

The other thing--well, you might find an individual man who loves that you're a great big tomboy who can switch out a transmission, I'm not denying that. What I'm saying is that if you peek into most women's heads, you would see a big patch of brain devoted to wondering what will appeal to men, and an attempt to prune, shape, pluck, repress and surgically remove what doesn't. Lesbians can free up that part of their brain to think about the WNBA or whatever.
 
Autodidact

Autodidact

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LittleNipper said:
What I'm saying is that people who grow up eating garbage will develope to expect it ---- if not begin to like it... I believe everyone could be capable to have a homosexual relationship. It is often a matter of what one developes to expect from one's urges.
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I see. So you see true love as equivalent to "eating garbage," and living a life based on lies to be moral.

I don't know who I feel more sorry for, you or any mate you might manage to attract.
 
Alceste

Alceste

Vagabond
Autodidact said:
It's not that men aren't fantastic in bed, or don't appreciate tomboys, or anything like that. It's just Biology. A woman knows what it feels like to have female anatomy. And women are more like other women, (in general) sexually. I wouldn't worry about it, 98% of women are devoted heterosexuals, so it's not like women are going to defect en masse over it. But it's nice to get a perk to make up for being discriminated against.

The other thing--well, you might find an individual man who loves that you're a great big tomboy who can switch out a transmission, I'm not denying that. What I'm saying is that if you peek into most women's heads, you would see a big patch of brain devoted to wondering what will appeal to men, and an attempt to prune, shape, pluck, repress and surgically remove what doesn't. Lesbians can free up that part of their brain to think about the WNBA or whatever.
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I'm thinking you didn't form your impression of what goes on in the heads of heterosexual women in the post-Naomi Klein bohemian subcultures of Vancouver or Montreal, like I did. :D

I'll grant there's a pervasive aura of fatalistic disappointment and ennui in single heterosexual women, but I get pretty mugh the same vibe off single lesbians and gays.
 
Jeremiah

Jeremiah

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The team led by Dr Niklas Långström at Karolinska Institutet conducted the first truly population-based survey of all adult (20-47 years old) twins in Sweden. Studies of identical twins and non-identical, or fraternal, twins are often used to untangle the genetic and environmental factors responsible for a trait. While identical twins share all of their genes and their entire environment, fraternal twins share only half of their genes and their entire environment. Therefore, greater similarity in a trait between identical twins compared to fraternal twins shows that genetic factors are partly responsible for the trait.

This study looked at 3,826 same-gender twin pairs (7,652 individuals), who were asked about the total numbers of opposite sex and same sex partners they had ever had. The findings showed that 35 per cent of the differences between men in same-sex behaviour (that is, that some men have no same sex partners, and some have one or more) is accounted for by genetics.

Rahman explains: "Overall, genetics accounted for around 35 per cent of the differences between men in homosexual behaviour and other individual-specific environmental factors (that is, not societal attitudes, family or parenting which are shared by twins) accounted for around 64 per cent. In other words, men become gay or straight because of different developmental pathways, not just one pathway."

For women, genetics explained roughly 18 per cent of the variation in same-sex behaviour, non-shared environment roughly 64 per cent and shared factors, or the family environment, explained 16 per cent.

The study shows that genetic influences are important but modest, and that non-shared environmental factors, which may include factors operating during foetal development, dominate. Importantly, heredity had roughly the same influence as shared environmental factors in women, whereas the latter had no impact on sexual behaviour in men.

Dr Rahman adds: "The study is not without its limitations - we used a behavioural measure of sexual orientation which might be ok to use for men (men's psychological orientation, sexual behaviour, and sexual responses are highly related) but less so for women (who show a clearer separation between these elements of sexuality). Despite this, our study provides the most unbiased estimates presented so far of genetic and non-genetic contributions to sexual orientation."
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Homosexual Behavior Largely Shaped By Genetics And Random Environmental Factors

The only criticism I would have, is some of the individuals who have had a same sex partner might not have admitted it.
 
Autodidact

Autodidact

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Alceste said:
I'm thinking you didn't form your impression of what goes on in the heads of heterosexual women in the post-Naomi Klein bohemian subcultures of Vancouver or Montreal, like I did. :D

I'll grant there's a pervasive aura of fatalistic disappointment and ennui in single heterosexual women, but I get pretty mugh the same vibe off single lesbians and gays.
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No, I'm 54. I formed my impressions in the Joni Mitchell/Gloria Steinem era.
 
Jeremiah

Jeremiah

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For the love of it all, I am being mobbed by the wannabe nanny crew. You can equate homosexual love with eating garbage, call them a "mistake", sort them with cancer & spread oppression and intolerance of homosexuals. But mention someone's wife and holy molly look out.
 
Perfect Circle

Perfect Circle

Just Browsing
Jeremiah said:
Mind your own business.
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Yeah... So last I checked we were on a public debate forum. The key word in that sentence being public. I noticed that you snapped at someone (who is, and has been arguing for your position for days), and I thought it was kind of a rude thing to do. So, once again, seeing as how this is a public forum... I think I'll keep my business right here.

K? Thx :D
 
Jeremiah

Jeremiah

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Perfect Circle said:
Yeah... So last I checked we were on a public debate forum. The key word in that sentence being public. I noticed that you snapped at someone (who is, and has been arguing for your position for days), and I thought it was kind of a rude thing to do. So, once again, seeing as how this is a public forum... I think I'll keep my business right here.

K? Thx :D
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Great....good for you....whoo hoo.... :disco:
 
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