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[Mock Turtle]

I think banning is really the only solution. Again, your conscious mind can attempt such boycotts, but your unconscious brain is still vulnerable. Sincerely, stick with your banning strategy and don't pretend you're in charge of your unconscious. Our unconscious brains are in control of most of our lives, even though our ego minds don't think so.

I'd recommend a book called "Incognito", by Eagleman, if you want to understand this more.

I did read one of the books about the advertising industry long ago, and as you say there is much more to advertising than just simply trying to sell some supposedly superior product. I do see much of it as being pernicious and I would pay for viewing things if a sensible structure was in place, but until then the usual ad-blockers and going elsewhere when they are too insistent works for me.

 

[Revoltingest]

Well they are useless if one determines never to buy such a product when they are so insistent. I started banning adverts long ago, from the TV and on the internet. If it's a battle of what we have to see or hear I think we who will shut our eyes and mute anything will win.

You & I won't buy the various products advertised.
But perhaps one in 10,000 will. That justifies buying
the ads.

 

[Mock Turtle]

You & I won't buy the various products advertised.
But perhaps one in 10,000 will. That justifies buying
the ads.

I don't mind them - just don't insist we view them - given there are some of us who just don't want to see them. Why are some so obsessed in us having to view something that they should know we don't want to view - just not logical.

 

[Revoltingest]

I don't mind them - just don't insist we view them - given there are some of us who just don't want to see them. Why are some so obsessed in us having to view something that they should know we don't want to view - just not logical.

I barely notice the ads.

 

[Mock Turtle]

I barely notice the ads.

I tend to use an ad-blocker by default so I rarely see any adverts at all, and any that slip through I will ignore. Any site that insists I turn off my ad-blocker just get a click to close it and often no return visit. Is that in their interests? I can see it probably is down to revenue and footfall onto any site but they must know as you have mentioned that very few are affected by advertising anyway so why be insistent to those who just don't want to see any?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I believe that sites which offer value deserve remuneration. I only ask that it's both reasonable and obtained in the least intrusive way possible.

 

[Revoltingest]

I tend to use an ad-blocker by default so I rarely see any adverts at all, and any that slip through I will ignore. Any site that insists I turn off my ad-blocker just get a click to close it and often no return visit. Is that in their interests? I can see it probably is down to revenue and footfall onto any site but they must know as you have mentioned that very few are affected by advertising anyway so why be insistent to those who just don't want to see any?

No one can host a site for free.
We enable them to pay somehow.
Here I endure ads.
On other sites, I donate money.
Both systems work.

 

[icehorse]

I barely notice the ads.

Correction: your conscious mind barely notices the ads. But your subconscious brain pays a LOT of attention, especially when they're repeated, and/or trigger any sort of emotional response. And I'm sure you'll agree that emotional responses are outside the control of your conscious brain

 

[Father Heathen]

I'm waiting for the porn ads to show up again. Those Ukrainian women were sexy , even if the same exact picture had different names and ages on them.

Isn't the ad algorithm based on search history?

 

[Father Heathen]

Some of us use ad blockers anyway. Still can't fathom why so many insist we view their ads when we make it obvious we just don't want to, and hence where any such advertising is useless. And when we don't view the ads, we still might be spreading free advertising for the site (like citing on RF), so why the complaints?

I imagine that the ad revenue keeps RF afloat.

 

[Father Heathen]

I don't mind them - just don't insist we view them - given there are some of us who just don't want to see them. Why are some so obsessed in us having to view something that they should know we don't want to view - just not logical.

If RF isn't generating profit, or even paying for it's own upkeep, then it would likely be shuttered by its owners.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Isn't the ad algorithm based on search history?

Apparently the vast majority of RF'ers are dedicated porn viewers as I wasn't the only one.

Yeaaaa!! Whoo hooo!!

 

[Revoltingest]

Correction: your conscious mind barely notices the ads. But your subconscious brain pays a LOT of attention, especially when they're repeated, and/or trigger any sort of emotional response. And I'm sure you'll agree that emotional responses are outside the control of your conscious brain

Subconscious = Barely
I've yet to see a product I'd ever buy.
I'm useless to many advertisers.
Now if Knipex brought out a wonderful new tool....I'd be slobbering all over my keyboard.

 

[sun rise]

No one can host a site for free.
We enable them to pay somehow.
Here I endure ads.
On other sites, I donate money.
Both systems work.

When the rules are clear, that's fine with me. Here I paid for a lifetime free use. Was that a good business decision or not? That's not my problem. A contract is a contract. I expect people and companies to live up to their contracts.

 

[Exaltist Ethan]

I've got both a premium membership and an adblocker, so the chance of me seeing an ad is zilch to none. Once in awhile an ad will pop up but my adblocker will zap it away before I can really get a good look at it. As long as RF continues to exist I couldn't care less about the ads honestly. The non-advert content of the website is why I am here in the end.

 

[Revoltingest]

When the rules are clear, that's fine with me. Here I paid for a lifetime free use. Was that a good business decision or not? That's not my problem. A contract is a contract. I expect people and companies to live up to their contracts.

Lifetime isn't always for one's life. Sometimes deals
be renegotiated for a company to survive. I don't
know if RF is in that boat...prolly not. But we don't
have a formal contractual relationship here. So
changes will happen. We won't like some.
Be happy that RF is surviving. My 1st forum (The
History Channel) shut down. Blame them for my
being here.

BTW, this ungrateful (ie, forgetful) groundskeeper
thanks the poster who paid for mine. I enjoyed
it while it lasted. Your generosity continues to
astound me.

 

[Mock Turtle]

If RF isn't generating profit, or even paying for it's own upkeep, then it would likely be shuttered by its owners.

Well you might have noticed that I have paid up for this site.

 

[Father Heathen]

Well you might have noticed that I have paid up for this site.

I know. I'm just saying that ads, while annoying, are sometimes necessary.

 

[Mock Turtle]

No one can host a site for free.
We enable them to pay somehow.
Here I endure ads.
On other sites, I donate money.
Both systems work.

Checking my profile, I did purchase a lifetime subscription for this site since I do like it enough.

 

[F1fan]

How much expendable income does the core 20 members have anyway?