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SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
Staff member
Premium Member
Yeah, but you have to take into account that ad was put there by the previous owners. I'm not sure the current owners have any legal obligation to honor those agreements.
Unless they take down the offer, which is still visible on the website, they might.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
Hopefully Informative.

The new owners should honour existing accounts. That is general business practice
I would ask that the new owners do what is reasonable and necessary to sustain some thing that we all appreciate to one extent or another. Prancing around saying something akin to "You bought it without reading the fine print so screw you!" seems a bit self defeating.

(I might very well change my mind if they attempt to monetize my ignore list.)
 

beenherebeforeagain

Rogue Animist
Premium Member
I'm waiting for the porn ads to show up again. Those Ukrainian women were sexy , even if the same exact picture had different names and ages on them.
Did you notice that they used the exact same images as the Russian women want to meet you ads? I suspect collusion going on.

Of course, I've seen neither since the beginning of hostilities...
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I would ask that the new owners do what is reasonable and necessary to sustain some thing that we all appreciate to one extent or another. Prancing around saying something akin to "You bought it without reading the fine print so screw you!" seems a bit self defeating.

(I might very well change my mind if they attempt to monetize my ignore list.)

The fine print stated (and still states) for rhe life of the account. No prancing involved
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Did you notice that they used the exact same images as the Russian women want to meet you ads? I suspect collusion going on.

Of course, I've seen neither since the beginning of hostilities...
Yea, I pointed that out.

One was listed as 60 years old and another at 20. Same woman, same picture.

Talk about fountain of youth!
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
And, assuming that it was not "a good business decision," are you willing to see the forums shut down in deference to your expectations? Seriously? :)
There's zero indication/communication that those who own RF are having financial issues.

Organizations that I'm aware of that have offered life memberships (same kind of thing) have honored that commitment and contract when they discovered it was not cost-effective. In some cases the cost for life members went up or in some cases ended for new people but in no case did they casually ignore a contract entered into in good faith.

Casually violating contracts to me is ethically and morally wrong. I won't be a party and support unethical and perhaps illegal actions.
 

Alien826

No religious beliefs
Sounds like my husband who is 86 and very sociable. One day in the super market a woman in front of him in the checkout was holding two floral bouquets. He jokingly asked if one was for him. After she checked out she gave him one of the bouquets. I got all excited when he came to the door with flowers until I heard the story. :facepalm:
I'm very flirtatious by nature. When I first started dating my current gf, she would get upset when I did it. I said 'Look at it this way. I can have all these women if I want, but I choose you!"

Now she doesn't get jealous. I think she hopes that I will go off with someone else. ;)
 

Alien826

No religious beliefs
But if you bought a lifetime membership and Bob's gym winds up being bought out by Elwood's Fitness, you're probably going to be out of luck.
Here's my advice. Look at the price for a lifetime membership and divide it by the monthly fee. That's how many months your membership has to last to make the lifetime fee worth it. If you think that the company, and your interest in it, will last at least that long, go for it. Otherwise don't.

It's unreasonable to expect these things to survive a change of owner.
 

Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
There's zero indication/communication that those who own RF are having financial issues.

Organizations that I'm aware of that have offered life memberships (same kind of thing) have honored that commitment and contract when they discovered it was not cost-effective. In some cases the cost for life members went up or in some cases ended for new people but in no case did they casually ignore a contract entered into in good faith.

Casually violating contracts to me is ethically and morally wrong. I won't be a party and support unethical and perhaps illegal actions.
  1. I have not claimed that those who own RF are having financial issues.
  2. Nor have I suggested the the current owners of RF have or should casually ignore a contract.
  3. And I certainly did not ask that you be a party and support unethical and perhaps illegal actions.
Try being less silly and far less litigious -- especially when the silliness comes across as contrived and you have nothing to litigate.
 

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
There's zero indication/communication that those who own RF are having financial issues.

Whether or not they're having financial issues isn't the point. For the owners this is strictly a business, so of course they're going to need to turn a profit.

Ad revenue is usually the main source of income for a site like this, but recurring membership payments and donations also help pay the bills.

The problem with a "Lifetime Membership" deal like the one installed by the previous owners is that it preemptively screws any subsequent owners in that anyone with one of these memberships obviously isn't going to sign up for a recurring membership fee of top of it, and also probably won't feel as inclined to donate to the site since they've already contributed a sizable chunk.

It's a great deal for the previous owners since they've already been payed in full for a service that they're no longer providing, but it kind of sucks for the new guys.


Organizations that I'm aware of that have offered life memberships (same kind of thing) have honored that commitment and contract when they discovered it was not cost-effective.

Whether or not it's cost-effective isn't the issue. Whether or not it's fair for the current owners to have to provide a service that someone else got paid for is the issue.

In some cases the cost for life members went up or in some cases ended for new people but in no case did they casually ignore a contract entered into in good faith.

In this case we're talking about a contract that SOMEONE ELSE entered into in good faith. Your contract, if you bought your lifetime membership before Aug. 2018, is with @Rex and @Brent W.

Whether or not that obligation carries over to the new owners is up for grabs. The impression I get is that the new owners weren't even fully aware of what a premium membership entailed.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Breaking news!
I just communicated with the owners (telepathically),
& they said that the needed to raise money for a new
program to improve posts here. Mostly, it's paying
me to limit mine to 10 per month.

They're going to pay you for not posting?
 

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
btw guys, I thought this would be a perfect time to announce my own latest offering to the members:

For a limited time only I'm currently selling Next-Lifetime Premium Memberships to all of our members. Money back guarantee if it turns out there is no afterlife (bitcoin accepted).
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Whether or not it's cost-effective isn't the issue. Whether or not it's fair for the current owners to have to provide a service that someone else got paid for is the issue.

I am assuming that they [new owners] were made aware of this during purchase negotiations.
 
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