President Trump did in fact offer 10,000 National Guard troops to secure the U.S. Capitol, which was turned down.

[esmith]

Seems that the Jan 6th committe withheld information concerning the Jan 6th riot.
Guess if you have a agenda the truth doesn't matter.
Of course if you have an agenda guess you will have a problem with the sources also

Chairman Loudermilk Publishes Never-Before Released Anthony Ornato Transcribed Interview

U.S. House of Representatives Committee on House Administration

cha.house.gov

 

[Revoltingest]

Seems that the Jan 6th committe withheld information concerning the Jan 6th riot.
Guess if you have a agenda the truth doesn't matter.
Of course if you have an agenda guess you will have a problem with the sources also

Chairman Loudermilk Publishes Never-Before Released Anthony Ornato Transcribed Interview

U.S. House of Representatives Committee on House Administration

cha.house.gov

I've long thought the Jan 6 attack was the
weakest part of the insurrection case against
him. The others are much more compelling.

 

[metis]

So, what I watched for over three hours that Trump instigated didn't happen?

 

[tytlyf]

According to a Trump loyalist? You're going to need a lot more credibility than this house "finding."
You won't have transcripts, you won't have any evidence outside of what a boot-licker is saying.
Why would they need to talk about 10,000 troops prior to Jan 6? To protect the capitol, in advance, from his radicalized cult?

 

[Callisto]

Seems that the Jan 6th committe withheld information concerning the Jan 6th riot.
Guess if you have a agenda the truth doesn't matter.
Of course if you have an agenda guess you will have a problem with the sources also

Chairman Loudermilk Publishes Never-Before Released Anthony Ornato Transcribed Interview

U.S. House of Representatives Committee on House Administration

cha.house.gov

Unlike in the rest of the country, the DC National Guard is under direct control of POTUS. It was Trump's responsibility to have deployed the National Guard and he didn't need the mayor's request or approval before or during the riot. Whether the mayor was offered prior to is irrelevant, during the riot it was Trump's obligation. That's why everyone from his kids to his Cabinet to Sean Hannity were screaming at him to do so.

 

[Tomef]

Seems that the Jan 6th committe withheld information concerning the Jan 6th riot.
Guess if you have a agenda the truth doesn't matter.
Of course if you have an agenda guess you will have a problem with the sources also

Chairman Loudermilk Publishes Never-Before Released Anthony Ornato Transcribed Interview

U.S. House of Representatives Committee on House Administration

cha.house.gov

This refers to a remark made by Trump the day before, reported third hand, not an order to send in the national guard on the 6th.

Even the quoted article in the Federalist makes that clear - you can see the difference between the claim:

'President Trump did in fact offer 10,000 National Guard troops to secure the U.S. Capitol, which was turned down’ for which no evidence is offered, and what the Federalist article reports as having actually happened:

'President Trump had suggested 10,000 would be needed to keep the peace at the public rallies and protests scheduled for January 6'

The article blatantly contradicts its own claim of exonerating evidence. If you check further you can find out that Trump’s ‘suggestion’ was just some remark made to some other person in relation to concerns over clashes between rival protestors. The rest of it is about discussions between Meadows and the DC Mayor on what an appropriate level of security would be, discussions that took place before the 6th. The article seems to be trying to make the claim that this somehow proves Trump asked for 10,000 troops to prevent the invasion of the Capitol building on January 6th, but the content of the article and committee's take has nothing to do with that, as the article makes clear.

 

[crossfire]

I'm surprised this was released to public. On page 6 of the transcript it was stated that this information should not be released to the public per the Secret Service and Homeland Security, as it goes into great detail as to the numbers of Secret Security agents and their strategies for protecting the protectees whom they are charged with. This should have never been made public for that reason. It does make for an interesting read, however.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Seems that the Jan 6th committe withheld information concerning the Jan 6th riot.

^ such a lame effort on your part; see post #6.

 

[Revoltingest]

Seems that the Jan 6th committe withheld information concerning the Jan 6th riot.
Guess if you have a agenda the truth doesn't matter.
Of course if you have an agenda guess you will have a problem with the sources also

Chairman Loudermilk Publishes Never-Before Released Anthony Ornato Transcribed Interview

U.S. House of Representatives Committee on House Administration

cha.house.gov

Do you think this significantly weakens the
case against Trump's attempting a coup?

 

[Shaul]

Unlike in the rest of the country, the DC National Guard is under direct control of POTUS. It was Trump's responsibility to have deployed the National Guard and he didn't need the mayor's request or approval before or during the riot. Whether the mayor was offered prior to is irrelevant, during the riot it was Trump's obligation. That's why everyone from his kids to his Cabinet to Sean Hannity were screaming at him to do so.

Congress controls the security for the Capitol grounds, not the mayor of Washington D.C. A President has no authority to send National Guard troops onto it without the permission of Congress, and more specifically the Speaker of the House. President Trump offered the use of the National Guard to both then Speaker Pelosi and the Mayor Bowser who both refused the offer. President Trump had the National Guard troops standing by. They were never requested by Pelosi nor Bowser. The Germaine point is that the J6 Committee withheld the evidence that the National Guard troops were offered by President Trump.

 

[metis]

Congress controls the security for the Capitol grounds, not the mayor of Washington D.C.

False as there are different jurisdictions depending on which group could be called, and Pelosi could not call the National Guard as that's under federal control per the President and Vice President and the Secretary of Defense; and the DC Police is under local control.

A President has no authority to send National Guard troops onto it without the permission of Congress, and more specifically the Speaker of the House

You don't know what you're talking about:

Federal duty​

Title 10 service means full-time duty in the active military service of the United States. The term used is federalized. Federalized National Guard forces have been ordered by the President to active duty either in their reserve component status or by calling them into Federal service in their militia status.[30] There are several forms:

• Voluntary Order to Active Duty.

Federalized with the soldier's or airman's consent and the consent of their Governor.

• Partial Mobilization.

In time of national emergency declared by the President for any unit or any member for not more than 24 consecutive months.

• Presidential Reserve Call Up.

When the President determines that it is necessary to augment the active forces for any operational mission for any unit or any member for not more than 270 days... -- National Guard (United States) - Wikipedia

Maybe get your news from something other than Fox.

 

[Callisto]

Congress controls the security for the Capitol grounds, not the mayor of Washington D.C. A President has no authority to send National Guard troops onto it without the permission of Congress, and more specifically the Speaker of the House. President Trump offered the use of the National Guard to both then Speaker Pelosi and the Mayor Bowser who both refused the offer. President Trump had the National Guard troops standing by. They were never requested by Pelosi nor Bowser. The Germaine point is that the J6 Committee withheld the evidence that the National Guard troops were offered by President Trump.

As others have pointed out, the article is insubstantial.

As I stated, the mayor was not relevant to the process, or failure, to deploy the National Guard. Pelosi was also not a determining factor.

Under federal law the DC National Guard is under the president’s command and he, per the Home Rule Act, has the authority to federalize the D.C. police department.

As the DC National Guard website states,

"the Commanding General of the D.C. National Guard is subordinate solely to the President of the United States. This authority to activate the D.C. National Guard has been delegated, by the President, to the Secretary of Defense and further delegated to the Secretary of the Army. The D.C. National Guard is the only National Guard unit, out of all of the 54 states and territories, which reports only to the President."​

The onus was on Trump to order them deployed. He's done it when it suits his agenda and, as January 6th proved, declines to do so when it suits him. Which he knew all too well and evidenced by him lying to the country on January 7th, when he claimed to have immediately deployed the DCNG:

transcript: "I immediately deployed the National Guard and federal law enforcement to secure the building and expel the intruders."

 

[Shaul]

False as there are different jurisdictions depending on which group could be called, and Pelosi could not call the National Guard as that's under federal control per the President and Vice President and the Secretary of Defense; and the DC Police is under local control.

As I wrote, the Capitol Police are responsible for the security of the Capitol. I never mentioned the Washington D.C. Municipal Police. Those are two separate and distinct entities. Nor did I write that the Speaker of the House could call on the National Guard on her own authority. I wrote that President Trump offer he the use of the National Guard, which she refused.

"On May 2, 1828, Congress passed an Act that expanded the police regulations of the City of Washington to include the Capitol and Capitol Square. It is on this date that the USCP commemorates its founding.

"With the passage of this Act, Congress brought the responsibility of policing the Capitol under the direction of the presiding officer of the House and Senate, and empowered the Capitol watchmen with full law enforcement authorities. The new force consisted of a captain and three men who worked fifteen-hour shifts when Congress was in session and ten-hour shifts at all other times. Their area of authority did not exceed the neighboring walks and streets adjacent to the Capitol Building.

The responsibility of the Capitol Police was transferred from the Commissioner of Public Buildings to the Sergeants at Arms for the U.S. House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate in 1867. In 1873, the Capitol Police Board was established, and the Architect of the Capitol was added to the Board."

The source for this quote is here: Our History

I had it quite correct and you are very, very wrong.

You don't know what you're talking about:

Federal duty​

Title 10 service means full-time duty in the active military service of the United States. The term used is federalized. Federalized National Guard forces have been ordered by the President to active duty either in their reserve component status or by calling them into Federal service in their militia status.[30] There are several forms:

• Voluntary Order to Active Duty.

Federalized with the soldier's or airman's consent and the consent of their Governor.

• Partial Mobilization.

In time of national emergency declared by the President for any unit or any member for not more than 24 consecutive months.

• Presidential Reserve Call Up.

When the President determines that it is necessary to augment the active forces for any operational mission for any unit or any member for not more than 270 days... -- National Guard (United States) - Wikipedia

Maybe get your news from something other than Fox.

Nobody ever wrote that the National Guard wasn't under the command of the President. What I wrote was that President Trump offered temporary use of the National Guard to Speaker Pelosi prior to January 6. Which he did. Which this new release of documents proves. Which was not disclosed by the previous January 6th Special Committee. Which is exculpatory evidence that President Trump never intended any "insurrection".

 

[Shaul]

As others have pointed out, the article is insubstantial.

As I stated, the mayor was not relevant to the process, or failure, to deploy the National Guard. Pelosi was also not a determining factor.

Under federal law the DC National Guard is under the president’s command and he, per the Home Rule Act, has the authority to federalize the D.C. police department.

As the DC National Guard website states,

"the Commanding General of the D.C. National Guard is subordinate solely to the President of the United States. This authority to activate the D.C. National Guard has been delegated, by the President, to the Secretary of Defense and further delegated to the Secretary of the Army. The D.C. National Guard is the only National Guard unit, out of all of the 54 states and territories, which reports only to the President."​

The onus was on Trump to order them deployed. He's done it when it suits his agenda and, as January 6th proved, declines to do so when it suits him. Which he knew all too well and evidenced by him lying to the country on January 7th, when he claimed to have immediately deployed the DCNG:

transcript: "I immediately deployed the National Guard and federal law enforcement to secure the building and expel the intruders."

A President can authorize the National Guard to temporarily report to and assist other government entities. He offer precisely that to Speaker Pelosi prior to January 6th. She refused the offer. She could have used the National Guard under her temporary control to prevent the chaos of January 6th. President Trump, by offering this use of the National Guard, demonstrated that he did NOT want the chaos and unrest that happened on January 6th.

 

[Callisto]

A President can authorize the National Guard to temporarily report to and assist other government entities. He offer precisely that to Speaker Pelosi prior to January 6th. She refused the offer. She could have used the National Guard under her temporary control to prevent the chaos of January 6th. President Trump, by offering this use of the National Guard, demonstrated that he did NOT want the chaos and unrest that happened on January 6th.

Irrelevant. Full stop.

The bottom line is Trump could have and should have deployed the NG. Period. Which is why he lied the following day, claiming that he did. I gave you the evidence ffs.

It's a lie that he didn't want chaos, that's precisely why he didn't deploy them. He had deployed them before, when it suited him. He didn't want order, he wanted havoc.

 

[crossfire]

If you read the document, Trump really wanted to go with the crowd from the Ellipse to the Capitol Building. Basically, a President only takes the trip between the Capitol and the White House only on Inauguration Day, and it requires a whole lot of security and advance planning. That's what he wanted the National Guard for. See Pages 76 & 77 of the transcript.

https://cha.house.gov/_cache/files/3/b/3b713ae6-5426-4d5c-9853-b19fcb7d75a5/7AA2E4D00C62DE8F036EE90481BC8EE2.ornato-ti.pdf

 

[metis]

What I wrote was that President Trump offered temporary use of the National Guard to Speaker Pelosi prior to January 6. Which he did. Which this new release of documents proves.

I watched as Pelosi tried to contact Mike Pence because Trump wouldn't send them in. OK, send us a link to that supposed document.

Which was not disclosed by the previous January 6th Special Committee. Which is exculpatory evidence that President Trump never intended any "insurrection".

Man, you are so utterly gullible.

 

[crossfire]

<...>

Nobody ever wrote that the National Guard wasn't under the command of the President. What I wrote was that President Trump offered temporary use of the National Guard to Speaker Pelosi prior to January 6. Which he did. Which this new release of documents proves. Which was not disclosed by the previous January 6th Special Committee. Which is exculpatory evidence that President Trump never intended any "insurrection".

It's not in the transcript referenced in the OP. Pelosi's name is not there, and it references Speaker of the House only once in the document as being the second in line of succession on page 121.

 

[crossfire]

After reading the transcript, I find it curious that security was being told to anticipate violence from counter-protesters (which never materialized,) and the maga-folk instantly wanted to blame the violence on BLM. Indeed, curiouser and curiouser.

 

[metis]

After reading the transcript, I find it curious that security was being told to anticipate violence from counter-protesters (which never materialized,) and the maga-folk instantly wanted to blame the violence on BLM. Indeed, curiouser and curiouser.

I had forgotten about that, and you are so right.