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President Trump Signs Sanction Bill

Quetzal

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
esmith said:
President Trump signed the sanction bill against Russia, Iran, and Korea
compare the news sources
President Trump signs Russia sanctions bill
Trump signs Russia sanctions bill - CNNPolitics.com
Trump signs Russia sanctions bill into law
Trump signs Russia sanctions bill he blasts as 'clearly unconstitutional'
Trump signs sweeping sanctions bill targeting Russia, Iran and North Korea
Trump Signs New Sanctions Bill Against Russia, Iran and N. Korea
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I appreciate the variety of sources you have been posting recently. It helps! What is your take from it all? Do you feel it is justified?
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
esmith said:
President Trump signed the sanction bill against Russia, Iran, and Korea
compare the news sources
President Trump signs Russia sanctions bill
Trump signs Russia sanctions bill - CNNPolitics.com
Trump signs Russia sanctions bill into law
Trump signs Russia sanctions bill he blasts as 'clearly unconstitutional'
Trump signs sweeping sanctions bill targeting Russia, Iran and North Korea
Trump Signs New Sanctions Bill Against Russia, Iran and N. Korea
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Putin (& his conspiracy with Trump) works in mysterious ways, eh.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
sunrise123 said:
It sure motivated Congress to take away his ability to give favors to Putin. More and more Congress and Executive branch people are ignoring or reversing what is tweet-stormed as policy.
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Ah, but Putin's fiendish plot has Trump signing the bill which one would expect him to oppose.
 
tytlyf

tytlyf

Not Religious
It doesn't help that Trump doesn't want sanctions on Russia. But doesn't mind them on the other countries. That's the quid pro quo.
 
esmith

esmith

Veteran Member
Quetzal said:
I appreciate the variety of sources you have been posting recently. It helps! What is your take from it all? Do you feel it is justified?
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Well, that is what Congress wanted. However, to tell you the truth I don't know enough about the implications and reactions from the countries affected directly and indirectly other than what Russia has done so far. I recall that the European Union was against the sanctions against Russia, that is why I said indirectly. We will have to wait and see what happens and when it happens.
 
Quetzal

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
esmith said:
Well, that is what Congress wanted. However, to tell you the truth I don't know enough about the implications and reactions from the countries affected directly and indirectly. I recall that the European Union was against the sanctions against Russia, that is why I said indirectly. We will have to wait and see what happens and when it happens.
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This is my take as well. I don't know enough about the details to give any sort of opinion.
 
Kemosloby

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
It seems like Trump called Congress's bluff. They obviously proposed the sanctions in order to make Trump look in cahoots with Putin, betting Trump would not sign the sanctions, but now Congress is on the hook for it. Lets hope they don't start WW3.
 
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Kapalika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
What, why Iran? Iran has at every step went with the negotiations. A lot of Iranians particularly the younger generations actually like the US, I'm afraid for what this might do as there is a missed opportunity to grow pro US support there and this sanction might lead us more down a path to ruin that.

Revoltingest said:
Ah, but Putin's fiendish plot has Trump sign
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I more suspect he had no involvement in it but it was some of his inferiors that did. But he still likes Russia and it seems he more did this for selfish reasons. Now that he's president he doesn't have any reason to do anything for Russia, and they can't exactly black mail him without it making them look horrible. Hell for all we know he might of signed it to make it look like he couldn't of had their help even if unknowingly, knowing they couldn't do anything.

Kemosloby said:
It seems like Trump called Congress's bluff. They obviously proposed the sanctions in order to make Trump look in cahoots with Putin, betting Trump would not sign the sanctions, but now Congress is on the hook for it.
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That actually sounds a lot like Trump and how he's run his little business empire. I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case.
 
tytlyf

tytlyf

Not Religious
I think this is all about removing sanctions as part of a quid pro quo. There's billions of dollars frozen that Putin wants. Maybe another mansion or yacht.

So Trump is no stranger to Russia, and it makes sense that Putin would want his cash back. Trump is a high level player in Russia. So he has access to the Kremlin through the usual random Russian affiliates that talk to all politicians.

TrumpCo agreed to loosening sanctions (Putin's $$) in exchange for political ammunition against an opponent (Clinton) he had no chance against. (HaxorBears (Russia) --> wikileaks --> GOP media)

Oh ya, all the major 'scandals' that the GOP held against Clinton were the result of hacking. Without Russia, GOP media had nothing to talk about.
 
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Kapalika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
esmith said:
He didn't have to sign it. If he didn't it would have gone into affect in 10 days.
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Well not vetoing it and not signing it would of been indecisive looking and maybe he didn't want that particularly if it's going to pass anyway. Plus as it was said, it helps him look better with the Russian thing so it's a pretty smart move. If the Russian stuff is true even just of underlings who did it without his knowledge Russia can't do crap without incriminating themselves.
 
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