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President's Remarks at Prayer Breakfast
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metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
I didn't watch this, but my wife did and was really upset with his remarks about those who pray for him, which probably was aimed at Romney. How any person with basic Judeo-Christian ethics can still support and defend what he repeatedly says and does is simply beyond me.
Stanyon
WWMRD?
He's making them better Christians by testing some of the basic tenants of their faith as far as the judge not and forgiveness thing
Hopefully if they do judge him they will become more introspective and gain more insights into themselves and their faith.
dianaiad
Well-Known Member
That was aimed at Pelosi, not Romney, and was pretty obviously truthful. Pelosi claimed that she "Prayed for the President," but frankly, she was either straight up lying or praying for God to strike Trump with lightning.
He DID go after Romney, when he referred to 'allies who were really enemies" (paraphrased a wee bit...can't remember the exact wording). However, Romney has NEVER liked Trump, so..????
Oh, and I do believe that he was more than a little refreshing when he talked about redemption and forgiveness....and then admitted that it was really hard for him to do so when people impeach him for no reason...and then he went on with his remarks about people who use their faith as an excuse to do something they know is wrong (I think that's Pelosi and Romney), who say they pray for him and don't (that's Pelosi) and are enemies pretending to be allies (that would be Romney, probably).
I'd find it hard, too. I'd TRY....but it would be hard.
..........and I honestly think that Romney was holding to his principles. And his faith. AND if Romney had said he was praying for the President (and he probably does) then he does. He probably prays that Trump would make the right decisions as well that he would be safe, and Romney's idea of the 'right decisions' might not be Trump's idea of the 'right' decisions, but hey...if ROMNEY had said he was praying for the president, then he was.
And no, I don't agree with what Romney did. At all. I honor him for throwing it all away in order to do it, though....and I do believe that is precisely what he's done. Throw his career, his future and his legacy away.
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He's making them better Christians by testing some of the basic tenants of their faith as far as the judge not and forgiveness thing
Senator Romney passed the temptations of the devil trump.
sooda
Veteran Member
Did anyone actually fall for Trump's tripe?
Skwim
Veteran Member
"Sure. He's me and ma's hero"
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sooda
Veteran Member
Trump keeps telling his audience what the Democrats think. Quite lame as speaking goes.
Stanyon
WWMRD?
You didn't capitalize Devil and in that religion it seems God is the one that tends to send him in to do his dirty work and then use him as a scapegoat so in a way one could say Trump IS doing God's work.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
So he "threw away" his legacy by not selling out his morality, principles, convictions, etc. for the sake of blind party loyalty? In the long run I suspect that he'll be more honored and respected than the slimy, spineless sycophants.
sooda
Veteran Member
LOLOL.. Are you an Evangelical Dispensationalist?
Stanyon
WWMRD?
No, the democrats used him and will soon forget him after his usefulness has expired and then they will discard him like a broken, unwanted toy.
dianaiad
Well-Known Member
Oh, come on. He's been attacked by the left for his entire life. The names he has been called are legion...the only thing he's done now is see that the right is joining the attack squad.
NOBODY is going to support him.
Period.
And that includes, sadly enough, me. I don't trust his politics. I admire his character, but....I don't agree with his politics.
Stanyon
WWMRD?
I do not suffer from Erectlie Dysfunction
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
How exactly was he "used"? How did his desire to maintain his integrity have anything at all to do with the dems? What would he have expected from them?
Shad
Veteran Member
Utah GOP is trying to get legislation passed for a recall of Mittens
Shad
Veteran Member
He had no issues doing so in 2012.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
That's just it; you can respect and admire people without agreeing with their politics, and you can still be conservative/liberal without being part of some blindly loyal boot licking brigade. People seem to have lost sight of this in the Trump era.
I disliked Trump long before I had any inkling of his political leanings. I also couldn't stand his nemesis Rosie O'Donnell, even if she and I might agree on a lot of things politically.
If someone burned down an orphanage, would it not be absurd to think "Oh, they were a fellow conservative/liberal? Well, I guess those orphans must've had it coming..."? but that's the mentality we have now.
Ethics and integrity should always supersede partisanship.