President's Remarks at Prayer Breakfast

[Father Heathen]

But calling pro-Trump behavior by the same name
smacks of those fundies who say atheists have "faith".
TDS is a real thing.....people who fear Trump is Hitler,
is destroying democracy, will be a dictator, etc.

The problem is that "TDS" is primarily used to handwave away valid, legitimate criticisms of Trump rather than address them.

 

[Revoltingest]

The problem is that "TDS" is primarily used to handwave away valid, legitimate criticisms of Trump rather than address them.

So you say.
I use it differently.
I said what it's about.
Did you miss that?

 

[Father Heathen]

So you say.
I use it differently.
I said what it's about.
Did you miss that?

High five, but most others don't.

 

[dianaiad]

Care to quote me?

I'll send them to bed without supper next time, but it's not like you call your fellow conservatives out on the torrents of swill they spew forth.

Of course I can. And I do...did you miss my remarks on Mitt Romney, for instance, or my personal opinion of trump, or my opinion of 'birthers,' etc? I call 'em out all the time.

However, I don't remember a liberal ever doing so. I would, y'know, since it would be so singular an event as to cement itself in my memory. You know, like where I was when I heard that Kennedy was shot, when we landed on the moon, when the Challenger exploded, the day my husband died, the instant during his funeral when a woman tried to set me up on a blind date with her son, where I was when I heard about 9-11, the days my kids were born, when I was proposed to, when the Berlin Wall came down....amazingly unique events like those.

....and I can do that, criticize 'fellow conservatives.' See, I'm not a Republican. I'm a conservative libertarian and there are things I don't like about either side.

All too often a post will lack anything of depth or substance to address.

True. I don't think my 'true' comment regarding this statement is the same thing you mean by it, however. (grin)

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Your political naivete is showing.
Once McConnell had enough votes to prevent witnesses or censure of any sort, the folks who wanted that were free to vote any way they wanted. They didn't have to deal with the political fallout of martyring Trump and replacing him with VP Pence.

The truth stop mattering and it all became political spectacle.
Tom

At this point, I don't think witnesses would have made any real difference. Had Richard Murdoch ran today, I don't think his rape comment would sink his election chances like it did a decade ago. He'd probably be cheered on and viewed as a good, strong Christian man for having the courage to say God's plan is beautiful, even if it required rape to make a pregnancy happened - His will be done, amen.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

So you say.
I use it differently.
I said what it's about.
Did you miss that?

You use it differently from many, if not most, just as I have started using it differently from many, if not most.

 

[Revoltingest]

You use it differently from many, if not most, just as I have started using it differently from many, if not most.

You should start using my neo-initialism, "TCD".
I'm surprised you haven't. It's the better insult.

 

[Father Heathen]

Of course I can. And I do...did you miss my remarks on Mitt Romney, for instance, or my personal opinion of trump, or my opinion of 'birthers,' etc? I call 'em out all the time.

However, I don't remember a liberal ever doing so. I would, y'know, since it would be so singular an event as to cement itself in my memory. You know, like where I was when I heard that Kennedy was shot, when we landed on the moon, when the Challenger exploded, the day my husband died, the instant during his funeral when a woman tried to set me up on a blind date with her son, where I was when I heard about 9-11, the days my kids were born, when I was proposed to, when the Berlin Wall came down....amazingly unique events like those.

....and I can do that, criticize 'fellow conservatives.' See, I'm not a Republican. I'm a conservative libertarian and there are things I don't like about either side.

Likewise but vice versa. Btw, I've criticized both Clinton's in responses to you in recent past. Can't stand either of them. Nor Biden. If Biden gets the nomination I'll toss my vote away on a 3rd party (I voted Gary Johnson last time). I lean left but I don't identify with any political party, either. I have a distrust and distaste for politicians in general, which is why it irks me that people worship Trump like some infallible messiah. People who held their nose and voted Trump because they believed him to be "the lesser evil" I can understand. I don't agree, but I get it. What I don't get is the uncritical adoration and boot licking. No past president had a creepy cult following like this.

True. I don't think my 'true' comment regarding this statement is the same thing you mean by it, however. (grin)

"I know you are by what am I?"

 

[dianaiad]

Likewise but vice versa. Btw, I've criticized both Clinton's in responses to you in recent past. Can't stand either of them. Nor Biden. If Biden gets the nomination I'll toss my vote away on a 3rd party (I voted Gary Johnson last time). I lean left but I don't identify with any political party, either. I have a distrust and distaste for politicians in general, which is why it irks me that people worship Trump like some infallible messiah. People who held their nose and voted Trump because they believed him to be "the lesser evil" I can understand. I don't agree, but I get it. What I don't get is the uncritical adoration and boot licking. No past president had a creepy cult following like this.


"I know you are by what am I?"

Oh, they all have had such uncritical followings. Obama is a wonderful example of that, as is Clinton and Kennedy and JOhnson and Nixon, even.

Their guy can do no wrong.

 

[Father Heathen]

Oh, they all have had such uncritical followings. Obama is a wonderful example of that, as is Clinton and Kennedy and JOhnson and Nixon, even.

Their guy can do no wrong.

That's how they (regardless of party) get away with so much; people eat up the image, and can't separate the person from the ideals they're supposed to represent. They see an attack on the former as an attack on the later.

 

[dianaiad]

That's how they (regardless of party) get away with so much; people eat up the image, and can't separate the person from the ideals they're supposed to represent. They see an attack on the former as an attack on the later.

Quite often it's the other way around, too.

I know people who wouldn't give a liberal leader any credit for ANYTHING, because they are so against the policies.

The 'birther' thing is a perfect case in point. I don't give a hoot where Obama was born or what his birth certificate says: his mother is a US Citizen, so he is...be he born in the Philippines, Gaza, Iran or the moon. That drove me NUTS....and it wouldn't have been an issue if Obama had been conservative.

Another was the accusations that Bush and the CIA were responsible for 9/11...not because of the evidence, but because they hated conservative politics and weren't about to admit that there was any such thing as extremist Muslim terrorism. They hated Bush and THAT"S why they wouldn't accept that he was not responsible.

I find the same thing here. the facts are, employment is higher, especially for "people of color' and women, more jobs than there are people to fill them...the economy is REALLY good.

.....and the liberals aren't going to give Trump any credit at all. Not because he wasn't responsible, but because THEY HATE HIM PERSONALLY.

It's asinine.

Between you and me, if I were going to choose next door neighbors and could have Obama, Biden or Trump, I'd pick Obama first (assuming they would deign to talk to me) then Biden, and if Trump moved next door, I'd be even more a hermit than I am now. I would love the first two next door; I could get along with either one and have great barbeques, etc. I would prefer that Trump was across the continent, in the White House.