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Prices At The Pump Are For The Future Liberal World Order

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
He said the secret part out loud... either that or they aren't even trying to conceal thier corruption anymore.
Here is a clue. Biden is not responsible for high gas prices at all. Earlier today someone, I won't say who (Ahem, it may have been the OP) started a thread because of a very ignorant Tweet by either Biden or someone in his administration. Now here the OP is making the same sort of error.


So where is the "corruption"? By the way, corruption does not mean "something happened that I do not like so I will blame somebody that I do not like".
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
How about we become energy independent by using all means of generating power.
EV can not answer the issue at this time.
Pumping oil in the USA can't solve it either, unless OPEC decides to do it.

Energy independence is green energy, and as we know the far right does not like green energy, but prefers fossil fuels. The problem with fossil fuels is that it's a global commodity, not a national resource for our use only. So as people keep driving the demand stays the same, and the USA can only pump so much, and refine so much. The price won't fall on capacity. Lower demand will help nationally as the gas we refine in the USA can be adjusted nationally to some degree.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Seems that White House economic adviser Brian Deese suggested the pain at the pump was a price American had to pay for the "future of the liberal world order," in a CNN interview on Thursday.

High gas prices worth it for 'future of liberal world order,’ White House economics adviser tells CNN


and for those that can't handle the truth
Biden adviser's 'liberal world order' remarks spark derision
Of Course.

I've been trying to warn people all along about authoritarian Democrats.
 

Truth in love

Well-Known Member
Pumping oil in the USA can't solve it either, unless OPEC decides to do it.

Energy independence is green energy, and as we know the far right does not like green energy, but prefers fossil fuels. The problem with fossil fuels is that it's a global commodity, not a national resource for our use only. So as people keep driving the demand stays the same, and the USA can only pump so much, and refine so much. The price won't fall on capacity. Lower demand will help nationally as the gas we refine in the USA can be adjusted nationally to some degree.

actually we can pump a whole lot more and refine way more of the extremist would get out of the way.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Yes, it does often seem that conservatives don't see the despoliation of the world as particularly interesting. Perhaps they have a secret plan to move all conservatives to a new planet somewhere. Shall we whip up a conspiracy theory to that effect?

No, they don't seem to care about the future of life on earth.

I suppose then if motorists can not afford.to replace their internal combustion engines with electric motors, they should consider riding on bikes, buses or trains.

Agreed. Americans will be forced to modify their lives, and for that I'm grateful. Get rid of those lawns, buy fewer processed goods packaged in plastic, and yes, more bikes and fewer cars. We've got friends in California now getting ready to put artificial turf lawn down in place of their grass, because California is running out of water. I saw on the news yesterday where American credit card debt is on the rise, meaning that people will be doing more downsizing as they approach their credit limits and can no longer finance their present standard of living. But as I said, I see a net benefit coming from that.

Even if it backrupts the economy?

Yes, even if it bankrupts the economy. Climate change is the number one problem today, on the level of global nuclear war, but is actually here now and already doing considerable damage, with much more to come.

But how is that going to happen? If gas prices make people pay more for everything, they will simply need to downsize their consumption to equal what their dollars (or ruples or euros) can purchase. I see the American standard of living falling, and not just for a few months or years. But this will be good for everybody.

We don't have what we need in place to go to some other energy form.

It doesn't need to be in place now. Clean energy infrastructure will rise to meet the demand for affordable power as the need arises. They're already talking about electric airplanes.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
. I suppose then if motorists can not afford.to replace their internal combustion engines with electric motors, they should consider riding on bikes, buses or trains. As many horizontally challenged motorists I have seen lately,, I figure walks might very well ba a healthy remedy for many short distance journeys.
What about those that do not fall into the catagory of not having access to trains, buses, or a bicycle is not feasible.
You seem to think everyone lives in the same type of area that you do......get real
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Here is a clue. Biden is not responsible for high gas prices at all. Earlier today someone, I won't say who (Ahem, it may have been the OP) started a thread because of a very ignorant Tweet by either Biden or someone in his administration. Now here the OP is making the same sort of error

And what error would that be.

 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
And what time frame are you looking at?

I am not sure. It would depend a lot on the result of Biden's much needed infrastructure program. You know, the one that Republicans refuse to support. But I would say that a reasonable goal would be no more ICE's for new cars after ten years at the most.
 

Alien826

No religious beliefs
So you expect everyone to go out a purchase a electic vehicle?
Just where are they going to get the money to do so?
You do know that only about 30% of taxpayes itimize, so your idea of a tax credit sucks big time.

Tax Credits are not the same as Tax Deductions.

What's a Tax Credit?

A tax credit is an amount of money that taxpayers can subtract directly from the taxes they owe. Unlike deductions, which lower the amount of taxable income, tax credits reduce the actual amount of tax owed. The value of a tax credit depends on the nature of the credit; certain types of tax credits are granted to individuals or businesses in specific locations, classifications, or industries.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
What about those that do not fall into the catagory of not having access to trains, buses, or a bicycle is not feasible.
You seem to think everyone lives in the same type of area that you do......get real
ICE"s have a limited lifetime. And if people refuse to change sooner or later they will have no choice. Try taking a horse and buggy on on the interstate and see how far that you get.
 
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