Pro-choice vs Abortion

[amorphous_constellation]

Puppies are innocent too, but you don't see anyone saying it's okay to curbstomp them because they'll go to doggie heaven.

Huge distinction between that and a clump of cells in my view, whatever animal that clump of cells might become, humans included. I hope someday the majority of people can recognize that distinction, I feel like it should be very obvious.

 

[whirlingmerc]

Huge distinction between that and a clump of cells in my view, whatever animal that clump of cells might become, humans included. I hope someday the majority of people can recognize that distinction, I feel like it should be very obvious.

Humans are vastly different than animals
Man is made in the image of God.

While a fetus, John the Baptist leapt for joy in the present of Jesus as a fetus.
Jesus being younger than the fetus is during most abortions in the US in that account.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Humans are vastly different than animals
Man is made in the image of God.

While a fetus, John the Baptist leapt for joy in the present of Jesus as a fetus.
Jesus being younger than the fetus is during most abortions in the US in that account.

I heard that they used to have play dates together.

 

[amorphous_constellation]

Abortion should be denied to someone who is not using contraception on grounds that it violates a fundamental law of Nature, namely procreation for the survival of the species: I would have thought that is consistent with evolutionary biology.

I'm pretty sure I've heard that certain animals will reabsorb some of their feti if they sense that resources are scarce. Matter of fact nature has cruelty in it that goes a step further in my view, with culling occurring and sibling domination. Like in the arctic, the strongest snowy owl hatchling might steal all the food, or with the arctic fox which that has huge litters, I'm sure not all of those survive. You're not using a good example.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I'm pretty sure I've heard that certain animals will reabsorb some of their feti if they sense that resources are scarce. Matter of fact nature has cruelty in it that goes a step further in my view, with culling occurring and sibling domination. Like in the arctic, the strongest snowy owl hatchling might steal all the food, or with the arctic fox which that has huge litters, I'm sure not all of those survive. You're not using a good example.

All the doctors swore that when my mother was pregnant with my little brother, she was going to have twins. At some point, they no longer heard a second heartbeat. It was presumed that one had been lost for whatever reason and reabsorbed. We always told him that he had eaten the good twin. Siblings are good to each other like that.

 

[Willamena]

Nature requires human beings to take the least stressful and least costly method for the termination of the pregnancy so that resources are appropriately utilised. This includes preventative measures. Like all species of plants and animals humans need to be concerned with efficiency and targeted interventions to ensure the survival of the fittest.

I disagree.

 

[amorphous_constellation]

Humans are vastly different than animals
Man is made in the image of God.

Didn't it say it deuteronomy that god doesn't have a form that you see. And so what? Why should it make you that special. What that means is that humans have the capacity for good and evil, unlike animals. So with that in mind, why would we want to admit every zygote we possibly can to become a human, we have enough trouble makers around this world don't we.

While a fetus, John the Baptist leapt for joy in the present of Jesus as a fetus.
Jesus being younger than the fetus is during most abortions in the US in that account.

And where did you read that

 

[Subduction Zone]

I'm pretty sure I've heard that certain animals will reabsorb some of their feti if they sense that resources are scarce. Matter of fact nature has cruelty in it that goes a step further in my view, with culling occurring and sibling domination. Like in the arctic, the strongest snowy owl hatchling might steal all the food, or with the arctic fox which that has huge litters, I'm sure not all of those survive. You're not using a good example.

Some animals, and even people are "chimera". Here is an example of one:

FACT CHECK: Chimera Cat

 

[whirlingmerc]

I heard that they used to have play dates together.

????

I believe you claimed you 'believe' in Jesus

 

[amorphous_constellation]

All the doctors swore that when my mother was pregnant with my little brother, she was going to have twins. At some point, they no longer heard a second heartbeat. It was presumed that one had been lost for whatever reason and reabsorbed. We always told him that he had eaten the good twin. Siblings are good to each other like that.

I don't exactly get along with my brothers, but they're here now so live and let live.

 

[amorphous_constellation]

Some animals, and even people are "chimera". Here is an example of one:

FACT CHECK: Chimera Cat

I want that cat

 

[whirlingmerc]

Didn't it say it deuteronomy that god doesn't have a form that you see. And so what? Why should it make you that special. What that means is that humans have the capacity for good and evil, unlike animals. So with that in mind, why would we want to admit every zygote we possibly can to become a human, we have enough trouble makers around this world don't we.



And where did you read that

in Luke

The Baby in My Womb Leaped for Joy

 

[Dan From Smithville]

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I believe you claimed you 'believe' in Jesus

I believe you did too.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I don't exactly get along with my brothers, but they're here now so live and let live.

It was more of an anecdote about natural abortions. My younger brother has actually had a very interesting life. He is now a playwright living in New York. We were close growing up, but have since drifted apart.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I'm pretty sure I've heard that certain animals will reabsorb some of their feti if they sense that resources are scarce. Matter of fact nature has cruelty in it that goes a step further in my view, with culling occurring and sibling domination. Like in the arctic, the strongest snowy owl hatchling might steal all the food, or with the arctic fox which that has huge litters, I'm sure not all of those survive. You're not using a good example.

Living things tend to overproduce in order that a few will survive. If every fly egg were to successfully reach the adult stage, we would be up to our ears in flies, literally.

 

[whirlingmerc]

Living things tend to overproduce in order that a few will survive. If every fly egg were to successfully reach the adult stage, we would be up to our ears in flies, literally.

People also die accidentally but doesn't mean its good to help the process along

 

[Dan From Smithville]

People also die accidentally but doesn't mean its good to help the process along

You believe everything in the Bible happened as written, and there are numerous accounts where people helped the process along, so you should be good with that.

 

[dianaiad]

......snip a whole lot of sarcastic insult....

I've got more to say on the matter, but will save it for a later post here, or elsewhere. For now, you and I have irreconcilable differences, but not as many as you think.

[/QUOTE]

Am I a 'quasi-Christian?" Many Christians won't even let me be seen as that much. I'm LDS. (the largest 'Mormon' group).

Am I 'pro-life?" yes.

Do I advocate killing anybody? No, and I stopped trying to read and respond to your post when I saw that you were implying that I do.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

People also die accidentally but doesn't mean its good to help the process along

I reread what I wrote and there was no suggestion in that where I advocated killing people. What were you responding to. Surely you do not think that other living things are more than objects that you can do with as you please. You have dominion over them. You can pull the legs off puppies if you wish. You have dominion over them.

 

[Subduction Zone]

in Luke

The Baby in My Womb Leaped for Joy

Verses out of context that show an emotional response are less strong then verses that apply to the death of fetuses. The translation of Exodus 21 22 was changed because its clear interpretation supports abortion. Worse yet, a part that cannot be translated, is the Test of an Unfaithful Wife. Abortion is okay if one's wife cheats and the husband wants the abortion:



Bible Gateway passage: Numbers 5:11-29 - New International Version