Pro-Life supporters:How do you reconcile overpopulation, climate change and reproductive rights?

[Epic Beard Man]

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I thought this was an interesting question she asked and very central to our world’s problem. Considering limited resources, overpopulation, as well as climate change how do those of you who support pro-life address this problem?

 

[74x12]

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I thought this was an interesting question she asked and very central to our world’s problem. Considering limited resources, overpopulation, as well as climate change how do those of you who support pro-life address this problem?

Reproduction in more developed areas of the world such as the USA or Europe are actually on the decline. It's the underdeveloped and poorer third world which is still having huge unsustainable population booms. These problems can be addressed by bringing these people into the modern world. I mean education and wealth increase for third world countries.

Moving all poor people to richer countries is not a good solution because they will be overwhelmed. Just look at how the USA is already in trillions of debt. It's unsustainable. Third world countries need timely solutions in their own land. Most of all they need education and better healthcare. Also care for the elderly will help. Many poor people think they need lots of kids to work and to take care of them in their old age. But that's no longer necessary in the modern world. At least not in wealthier countries.

Killing babies is not a good solution to overpopulation. The world needs to work on bringing solutions to third world countries in their own lands.

 

[shmogie]

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I thought this was an interesting question she asked and very central to our world’s problem. Considering limited resources, overpopulation, as well as climate change how do those of you who support pro-life address this problem?

Murder isn´t the solution.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Killing babies is not a good solution to overpopulation.

Neither is having them either.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Murder isn´t the solution.

Neither is having them

 

[shmogie]

Neither is having them

We could outlaw reproduction like the Chinese, or pay people who choose to be sterilized.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

We could outlaw reproduction like the Chinese, or pay people who choose to be sterilized.

Then we in the United States would violate our constitution

 

[74x12]

Neither is having them either.

It's the old superstitions repackaged. The idea we must sacrifice to the gods our children and now we have to do it to save earth. Some satanic cults love abortion because they can sacrifice their babies to Satan legally; as long as they do it before the child is born. They believe that they gain more so called psychic power by doing human sacrifices. Really they are just opening up doors for more and more demons. They are fools.

We can always colonize mars or something. Another solution in the future might be scaling people down like in the movie downsizing.

Anyway, they probably have technology so advanced they could send ET home and they aren't sharing it. I think many problems in the world could be solved if we force them to share the techs they've acquired in black projects. They owe us because it was done with our taxes.

 

[whirlingmerc]

It's the old superstitions repackaged. The idea we must sacrifice to the gods our children and now we have to do it to save earth. Some satanic cults love abortion because they can sacrifice their babies to Satan legally; as long as they do it before the child is born. They believe that they gain more so called psychic power by doing human sacrifices. Really they are just opening up doors for more and more demons. They are fools.

We can always colonize mars or something. Another solution in the future might be scaling people down like in the movie downsizing.

Anyway, they probably have technology so advanced they could send ET home and they aren't sharing it. I think many problems in the world could be solved if we force them to share the techs they've acquired in black projects. They owe us because it was done with our taxes.

There is too much to lose by losing the lives of the most vulnerable of all, the helpless unborn. Isn't it sad that the largest group to die from abortion are unborn little girls in the world?

As far as rights, rights are always in a balance. The unborn child, the father the mother.

Does Sanders feel God has no rights?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

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I thought this was an interesting question she asked and very central to our world’s problem. Considering limited resources, overpopulation, as well as climate change how do those of you who support pro-life address this problem?

Something I've noticed about the anti-choice movement:

- if you assume that their motives are what they say they are, there are all sorts of things in their position that can't be reconciled.

- if you assume that they're motivated by a desire to punish women* for having sex they don't approve of, everything falls into place and nothing can't be reconciled.


*normally, I'd say "people with uteruses," but it seems to me that anti-choice views usually come as a package deal with trans erasure.

 

[whirlingmerc]

Something I've noticed about the anti-choice movement:

- if you assume that their motives are what they say they are, there are all sorts of things in their position that can't be reconciled.

- if you assume that they're motivated by a desire to punish women* for having sex they don't approve of, everything falls into place and nothing can't be reconciled.


*normally, I'd say "people with uteruses," but it seems to me that anti-choice views usually come as a package deal with trans erasure.

Most pro life people I know are pretty merciful and not at all about retribution

Most are about honoring God and respecting life

Making the most vulnerable people, the unborn, to be 'expendable' is sad.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Most pro life people I know are pretty merciful and not at all about retribution

Most are about honoring God and respecting life

Making the most vulnerable people, the unborn, to be 'expendable' is sad.

So then they must all be in favour of things like:

- widely available birth control
- proper sex ed
- free or affordable medical care for pregnant women
- generous paid, job-protected maternity leave

... right?

 

[Twilight Hue]

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I thought this was an interesting question she asked and very central to our world’s problem. Considering limited resources, overpopulation, as well as climate change how do those of you who support pro-life address this problem?

I don't want to see abortion myself flourish, yet in the same sentence I always have it pegged that nature will take care of itself one way or another , regardless of any position wither its pro-life or not.

 

[Nakosis]

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I thought this was an interesting question she asked and very central to our world’s problem. Considering limited resources, overpopulation, as well as climate change how do those of you who support pro-life address this problem?

Sure, increase the availability of abortion especially in the "poor" countries. Which poor countries do you think Bernie is talking about?

 

[Father Heathen]

It's the old superstitions repackaged. The idea we must sacrifice to the gods our children and now we have to do it to save earth. Some satanic cults love abortion because they can sacrifice their babies to Satan legally; as long as they do it before the child is born. They believe that they gain more so called psychic power by doing human sacrifices. Really they are just opening up doors for more and more demons. They are fools.

You do realize that 1980's era horror b-movies weren't documentaries, right?

 

[Father Heathen]

So then they must all be in favour of things like:

- widely available birth control
- proper sex ed
- free or affordable medical care for pregnant women
- generous paid, job-protected maternity leave

... right?

Exactly this. For pro-lifers, the sanctity of life begins at conception but ends at birth, given that they typically oppose social programs that offer assistance for struggling mothers, and oppose sex education and contraceptives that help prevent unwanted pregnancies in the first place.
It seems that it has less to do with concern and more to do with control.

 

[74x12]

You do realize that 1980's era horror b-movies weren't documentaries, right?

Horror movies have never been my "thing". Just don't care for them. So ... no. But, sometimes people do reveal the truth in fiction. It's a useful way to do so without repercussions.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

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I thought this was an interesting question she asked and very central to our world’s problem. Considering limited resources, overpopulation, as well as climate change how do those of you who support pro-life address this problem?

At a guess, ignore the issue and recite "be fruitful and multiply" mindlessly.

 

[Spirit of Light]

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I thought this was an interesting question she asked and very central to our world’s problem. Considering limited resources, overpopulation, as well as climate change how do those of you who support pro-life address this problem?

From the nature it will regulate it self when we are to many human beings on earth, that being sickness, hunger and so on. Then population fall. But seen from human side. We can stop eating animals, and we will live longer.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Exactly this. For pro-lifers, the sanctity of life begins at conception but ends at birth, given that they typically oppose social programs that offer assistance for struggling mothers, and oppose sex education and contraceptives that help prevent unwanted pregnancies in the first place.
It seems that it has less to do with concern and more to do with control.

I'm not even looking at it in that broad a context. I'm just talking about abortion itself.

The big giveaway for me is whether they support any measures that would reduce the number of abortions while also making pregnant women happier or better off. If the answer is "no," then I can't believe that their main concern is reducing the number of abortions.

If a person only supports anti-abortion measures when those measures hurt or shame pregnant women, then I'm going to assume that the hurting and shaming is their real goal.