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Pro-Life supporters:How do you reconcile overpopulation, climate change and reproductive rights?

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
If we are to many people on earth nature itself will make some die because it can not sustain everyone. example nature catastrophe

You’ve been watching M Night Shamalans movies huh? Where in recorded history has nature have done that? Not saying I disbelieve you I believe the earth will demonstrate balance but I want you to explain
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
You’ve been watching M Night Shamalans movies huh? Where in recorded history has nature have done that? Not saying I disbelieve you I believe the earth will demonstrate balance but I want you to explain
I see it from a Buddhist P.O.W. nature regulate itself the way it is meant to be.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
One simply cannot be "Pro-Life" if they are for capital punishment in a country that does have prisons and jails.
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
Ca you actually address the subject?

What subject? She blathers on about population growth and makes some kind of connection to women's reproductive rights. I heard no question in this video addressing prolife let alone how that position relates to world population growth. All Bernie did was affirm his connection to women's bodies.

How do you connect being prolife to world population growth? Are you saying that prolifers want people to have more babies? Are you suggesting that women having control over their bodies will result in lower population growth? In regard to access to birth control, this is certainly possible. Or are you saying that it isn't prolife to let the world's population increase to the point of mass starvation? What?
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
I see it from a Buddhist P.O.W. nature regulate itself the way it is meant to be.

However we don't have anything of recorded history telling us factually that the planet has leveled itself out via population because the world has more people than the past and because of that we don't know.
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
One simply cannot be "Pro-Life" if they are for capital punishment in a country that does have prisons and jails.

As it was said here, the sanctity of life ends when a child is born damn a child like Tamir Rice or any kid born and grow into adolescence.
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
This is all I need to know about your intellect in actual adult discussion.

Not everyone is as brilliant as you. Again, what is the connection between the video, population growth, and prolife? How are she and Bernie connecting population growth and women's reproductive rights? I don't know what is going on in their or your heads. Does being prolife result in population growth?

Population growth is a problem that is taking care of itself. That is why I posted the chart.
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
I didn't say pro-abortion; I said pro-choice.

I don't think that the pro-choice position has much to do with population control, since along with upholding abortion rights, it also upholds the right not to have an abortion and continue the pregnancy if that's what the pregnant person chooses.

In places like China, women were only allowed to have one child. Is that pro-choice?
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
This is surely the problem of our world.

74 year-old Indian woman gives birth

India, despite its military capability, is not in stable position where people need to break records on having birth. I don't know about anyone but I want to at least want to see my children walk down the isle. She may not even make it through high school. What was the purpose? This is what I mean more humans for selfish reasons. India already has too many people along with China.
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
You're suppose to answer that not me by watching the video

I did watch it. There
You're suppose to answer that not me by watching the video

I have transcribed the segment.

Questioner: Human population growth has more than doubled in the past fifty years. The planet cannot sustain this growth. I realize this is a poisonous topic for politicians, but it's crucial to face. Empowering women and educating everyone on the need to curb population growth seems a reasonable campaign to enact. Would you be courageous enough to discuss this issue and make it a key feature of a plan to address climate catastrophe.​

Bernie: Well, the answer is yes and the answer has everything to do with the fact that women in the United States of America, by the way, have a right to control their own bodies and make reproductive decisions, and the Mexico City Agreement, which denies American aid to those organizations around the world that allow women to have abortions, or even get involved in birth control to me is totally absurd. So, I think, especially in poor countries around the world, where women do not necessarily want to have large numbers of babies, and where they can have the opportunity, through birth control to control the number of kids they have is something I very, very strongly support.
As I tried to point out with the chart, the decline in percent of annual population growth has been declining IN SPITE of restrictions on birth control and abortion.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Yet one child would seem to be the ideal, given the impending planetary climate catastrophe.
I'd love to see your math on that.

How can we NOT justify government mandated birth limits?
Pretty easily, since the one-child policy is an unconscionable assault on human rights.

BTW: there are plenty of opportunities to encourage small families just by improving conditions that lead to large families. Just make contraception widely available, encourage women's rights, and have a proper social safety net and you address a huge chunk of the reasons why people have large families.
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
I'd love to see your math on that.


Pretty easily, since the one-child policy is an unconscionable assault on human rights.

BTW: there are plenty of opportunities to encourage small families just by improving conditions that lead to large families. Just make contraception widely available, encourage women's rights, and have a proper social safety net and you address a huge chunk of the reasons why people have large families.

The greatest curbs on population growth are education and improved standards of living,
 
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