Problems with Social Life

[Akshara Dasa]

Ever sense I began to really cling on to Being I have lost interest in in many things. Now, Im quite young and im already starting not to care about girls, I never did like school, I dont want a job and Im not even motivated to get my lisense. My family doesnt like what im going threw and sometimes my dad will tell me what im doing is only hurting me and that im going crazy. I have seen a few psychiatrist and none have helped me. Whats going to happen to my future. I feel like sitting down, absorbing myself into Being and never comming back. But then what? My family will be so sad and my future will fall apart. What did you all do to cope with your spiritual problems. Im very aware that im unbalanced with this, but I dont want to be balanced either, i dont care to be. If completly absorbing myself in Being is extreme, then I want to be the most extreme with it. If its not, then I want to be the least. I just want to be closer to Being, but there seems to be a high cost for such a choice.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Being this is called taking it to an extreme. Like I said in some of my threads, when you realize Brahman is in you anyway, and in girls, and in everything, what does it matter what you do? Remember what Krishna told Arjuna, how can one kill a person? Instead of this extreme asceticism which is obviously making you suffer from your post, why not try a more balanced way of dharma? Instead of thinking "no action", think "no self acting", meaning that rather you eat, get a job, or have sex, it's still Brahman doing those things through you. Also refer to my signature, it's a very tantric outlook. Spend time with your family. Be with girls. Let the self act, keeping in mind the self is an illusion, yet it is also all there is, Brahman.

 

[Akshara Dasa]

Being this is called taking it to an extreme. Like I said in some of my threads, when you realize Brahman is in you anyway, and in girls, and in everything, what does it matter what you do? Remember what Krishna told Arjuna, how can one kill a person? Instead of this extreme asceticism which is obviously making you suffer from your post, why not try a more balanced way of dharma? Instead of thinking "no action", think "no self acting", meaning that rather you eat, get a job, or have sex, it's still Brahman doing those things through you. Also refer to my signature, it's a very tantric outlook. Spend time with your family. Be with girls. Let the self act, keeping in mind the self is an illusion, yet it is also all there is, Brahman.

But the girls, the jobs, the schooling, and even family, are just becomming distractions. And, the asceticism isnt causing me any suffering, this might sound a little sick, but deep down when im practicing some form of asceticism I feel so happy. Then I will leave the ascetisim for a while and then I will feel sad. I only feel really happy deep down when im practicing some form of Self-Denial. I know that may sound wierd, but that seems to get me closer to Being.

 

[xkatz]

But the girls, the jobs, the schooling, and even family, are just becomming distractions. And, the asceticism isnt causing me any suffering, this might sound a little sick, but deep down when im practicing some form of asceticism I feel so happy. Then I will leave the ascetisim for a while and then I will feel sad. I only feel really happy deep down when im practicing some form of Self-Denial. I know that may sound wierd, but that seems to get me closer to Being.

Asceticism IMO is a denial of reality. I think you need a better way of venting your dissatisfaction. Becoming an ascetic means you are essentially ignoring what is happening around you; and that can be very bad thing. You will not be solving your problems, only ignoring them and thus making them worse. I wouldn't recommend you doing this.

 

[Akshara Dasa]

Asceticism IMO is a denial of reality. I think you need a better way of venting your dissatisfaction. Becoming an ascetic means you are essentially ignoring what is happening around you; and that can be very bad thing. You will not be solving your problems, only ignoring them and thus making them worse. I wouldn't recommend you doing this.

Could you please tell me what could be better for me?

 

[xkatz]

Could you please tell me what could be better for me?

Trying to deal with what is going on around you. I do not think putting them aside will make you happy in the long run.

 

[Akshara Dasa]

Trying to deal with what is going on around you. I do not think putting them aside will make you happy in the long run.

The same old stuff is happening on the outside. Really, nothing is occuring on the outside. Everything thats happeing is on the inside. Nothing is going on around me, its all happening within. I feel like im just putting aside transient things, or distractions, so that I can absorb myself in something greater.

 

[xkatz]

The same old stuff is happening on the outside. Really, nothing is occuring on the outside. Everything thats happeing is on the inside. Nothing is going on around me, its all happening within. I feel like im just putting aside transient things, or distractions, so that I can absorb myself in something greater.

I think when it comes to material things (outside) and one's spirituality/thoughts (inside), one should try to find a good balance. Maybe if you tried changing somethings in your life, it would make you happier both on the outside and the inside.

 

[Akshara Dasa]

I think when it comes to material things (outside) and one's spirituality/thoughts (inside), one should try to find a good balance. Maybe if you tried changing somethings in your life, it would make you happier both on the outside and the inside.

I dont want balance, outer changes, outer happiness, or anything like that anymore. i dont know why. I understand what your saying, but I feel that just sitting and completely absorbing myself into Being is the best thing to do. Im ceasing to care about where my life is going, or talking to friends, or trying to "pick up" girls. All of that is beginning to stop. I know that your saying balance, and happiness inside and out, but whats the point of balance when there is no "two". What's the point of outside happiness when its transient. What is the point of going out with friends and girls if it will not give be perminant happiness. It seems like the only thing I can rely on, the only thing I know will always be there is Being. So why not spend all my time with that. I know that im always with that, but i wasnt noticing it. Now I am and I dont want to take my attention away now. Everything is slowly becomming a distraction.

 

[DreadFish]

I dont really have any advice, but I recommend you learn about zen if you haven't, its has a good balance of these two extremes IMO.

 

[xkatz]

I dont want balance, outer changes, outer happiness, or anything like that anymore. i dont know why. I understand what your saying, but I feel that just sitting and completely absorbing myself into Being is the best thing to do.

But why do you want to be absorbed into "Being"? What does this mean to you?

 

[Akshara Dasa]

But why do you want to be absorbed into "Being"? What does this mean to you?

Being is always there, its always present. I cant remember when it began becuase its above memory, above the mind. Being always is, it cant go into non-being simply because it IS Being. So I know it will always be there. It seems to be the only refuge in a world of change. Its so peaceful and silent. I really enjoy being with Being.

It means so much to me. When I first found it, it had little importance to me. Well, i cant really say that. It had much importance to me but I was still playing around in the world. Now its beginning to mean more to me. Im beginning to enjoy it more. Sometimes I would think it was boring, but that was me just fighting it. Now I want to compltetly surrender to it. I feel that I have partially, but I need to fully. I dont know how large the impact will be on the people around me and on my future. But im sure it wont be too good.

 

[xkatz]

Being is always there, its always present. I cant remember when it began becuase its above memory, above the mind. Being always is, it cant go into non-being simply because it IS Being. So I know it will always be there. It seems to be the only refuge in a world of change. Its so peaceful and silent. I really enjoy being with Being.

But aren't all people always being? I mean think about, you exist, there you are being. I think that you do not need to "surrender" yourself to it, you are already being IMO you just have not realized it.

I do not understand your need to "surrender" to it. Why do you wish to do such a thing?

 

[Akshara Dasa]

But aren't all people always being? I mean think about, you exist, there you are being. I think that you do not need to "surrender" yourself to it, you are already being IMO you just have not realized it.

I do not understand your need to "surrender" to it. Why do you wish to do such a thing?

By surrender I mean give myself up to it. this eliminates the thought "I" or identification with the body. I know I am always Being and that everyone is, I also know that I need to realize it. To do so I must surrender to it, I must give up this false self and then I can abide as Being.

I wich to surrender because by doing so I give up the little self, identification with the body. Thats just my personal path. I just see that surrender will do alot for me.

 

[xkatz]

By surrender I mean give myself up to it. this eliminates the thought "I" or identification with the body. I know I am always Being and that everyone is, I also know that I need to realize it. To do so I must surrender to it, I must give up this false self and then I can abide as Being.

I wich to surrender because by doing so I give up the little self, identification with the body. Thats just my personal path. I just see that surrender will do alot for me.

But isn't being one's self integral to being? IMO, riding oneself of ego and riding oneself of self are two completely different things.

 

[Akshara Dasa]

But isn't being one's self integral to being? IMO, riding oneself of ego and riding oneself of self are two completely different things.

What I call "litte self" is synonymous to "ego", "false self", Thought of "I", or anything like that. Its all different names for the same thing.


And yes being oneself is integral to Being. But, are we being ourselves?

And Im going to bed now. Good Night.

 

[Luminous]

Ever sense I began to really cling on to Being I have lost interest in in many things. Now, Im quite young and im already starting not to care about girls, I never did like school, I dont want a job and Im not even motivated to get my lisense. My family doesnt like what im going threw and sometimes my dad will tell me what im doing is only hurting me and that im going crazy. I have seen a few psychiatrist and none have helped me. Whats going to happen to my future. I feel like sitting down, absorbing myself into Being and never comming back. But then what? My family will be so sad and my future will fall apart. What did you all do to cope with your spiritual problems. Im very aware that im unbalanced with this, but I dont want to be balanced either, i dont care to be. If completly absorbing myself in Being is extreme, then I want to be the most extreme with it. If its not, then I want to be the least. I just want to be closer to Being, but there seems to be a high cost for such a choice.

suffering stems from desire. happiness stems from the desires of others...the way i see it.

 

[Luminous]

But the girls, the jobs, the schooling, and even family, are just becomming distractions. And, the asceticism isnt causing me any suffering, this might sound a little sick, but deep down when im practicing some form of asceticism I feel so happy. Then I will leave the ascetisim for a while and then I will feel sad. I only feel really happy deep down when im practicing some form of Self-Denial. I know that may sound wierd, but that seems to get me closer to Being.

In my opinion, the practice of self-denial is a symptome of the desire for control. perhaps you should get a nice puppy or something to remind you of what you truely are...a HUMAN Being.

 

[Luminous]

I dont want balance, outer changes, outer happiness, or anything like that anymore. i dont know why. I understand what your saying, but I feel that just sitting and completely absorbing myself into Being is the best thing to do. Im ceasing to care about where my life is going, or talking to friends, or trying to "pick up" girls. All of that is beginning to stop. I know that your saying balance, and happiness inside and out, but whats the point of balance when there is no "two". What's the point of outside happiness when its transient. What is the point of going out with friends and girls if it will not give be perminant happiness. It seems like the only thing I can rely on, the only thing I know will always be there is Being. So why not spend all my time with that. I know that im always with that, but i wasnt noticing it. Now I am and I dont want to take my attention away now. Everything is slowly becomming a distraction.

Being is so pointless, it is also a distraction...and you will find that it is transient aswell.

 

[Luminous]

By surrender I mean give myself up to it. this eliminates the thought "I" or identification with the body. I know I am always Being and that everyone is, I also know that I need to realize it. To do so I must surrender to it, I must give up this false self and then I can abide as Being.

I wich to surrender because by doing so I give up the little self, identification with the body. Thats just my personal path. I just see that surrender will do alot for me.

there is no way to surrender to something if you don't exist as a self. perhaps you are being selfish, perhaps you should begin to share the Bliss of Being.
more than that, you are fooling yourself, one always surrenders to Being.