Producing life from non living matter

[FearGod]

If life wasn't a product done by a creator, then what prevents us from creating it
the same way as it has been done by the unconscious nature.

This challenge was offered by God thousands years ago, as to create living creatures, can we?

 

[arthra]

If life wasn't a product done by a creator, then what prevents us from creating it
the same way as it has been done by the unconscious nature.

This challenge was offered by God thousands years ago, as to create living creatures, can we?

In my belief the creation is a continuous radiation or emanation from God... It has no beginning and no end but is continuous..

 

[danieldemol]

I wouldn't disbelieve in God if some scientist found a way to create life.
Jesus is said to have replaced a severed ear, yet a good doctor could do the same, just not by miracle.

 

[Valjean]

Careful what you wish for. Other challenges like this have been undertaken and achieved.

 

[Skwim]

If life wasn't a product done by a creator, then what prevents us from creating it
the same way as it has been done by the unconscious nature.

We haven't figured out the formulae, and if we do we may not be able to reproduce it. Isn't that obvious?

This challenge was offered by God thousands years ago, as to create living creatures,

I must have missed that chapter and verse. Which is it?

can we?

Only time will tell.

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[FearGod]

I must have missed that chapter and verse. Which is it?

O people, an example is presented, so listen to it. Indeed, those you invoke besides Allah will never create [as much as] a fly, even if they gathered together for that purpose. And if the fly should steal away from them a [tiny] thing, they could not recover it from him. Weak are the pursuer and pursued.(22:73)

 

[Skwim]

O people, an example is presented, so listen to it. Indeed, those you invoke besides Allah will never create [as much as] a fly, even if they gathered together for that purpose. And if the fly should steal away from them a [tiny] thing, they could not recover it from him. Weak are the pursuer and pursued.(22:73)

Not to make a debate out of this, but doesn't "And if the fly should steal away from them a [tiny] thing, they could not recover it from him." give lie to the claim that "those you invoke besides Allah will never create [as much as] a fly, even if they gathered together for that purpose"? The latter says no fly can be made, yet the former assumes that just such a fly was made.

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[FearGod]

Not to make a debate out of this, but doesn't "And if the fly should steal away from them a [tiny] thing, they could not recover it from him." give lie to the claim that "those you invoke besides Allah will never create [as much as] a fly, even if they gathered together for that purpose"? The latter says no fly can be made, yet the former assumes that just such a fly was made.

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The former is about the actual fly which is God's creation, the fly is small in size and the things
that it gets is so tiny that we have no power to get it back from the weak fly.

 

[Jedster]

Careful what you wish for. Other challenges like this have been undertaken and achieved.

Indeed some people believe that Golem(Jewish folklore) can be made of clay.
In my youth I tried it with some of my friends, we surprisingly failed but got freaked out for a while.

 

[FearGod]

Not to make a debate out of this, but doesn't "And if the fly should steal away from them a [tiny] thing, they could not recover it from him." give lie to the claim that "those you invoke besides Allah will never create [as much as] a fly, even if they gathered together for that purpose"? The latter says no fly can be made, yet the former assumes that just such a fly was made.

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It's really amazing that it says that the fly carry a tiny thing, as we know today that the fly carries tiny things with it legs.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

If life wasn't a product done by a creator, then what prevents us from creating it
the same way as it has been done by the unconscious nature.

This challenge was offered by God thousands years ago, as to create living creatures, can we?

Technological impairment. We haven't got to the point technologically where we can produce life from synthetic elements. Yet.

That said, while we can't create entirely new lifeforms from synthetic materials, we can create limbs for people who've lost parts or all of theirs. Why can't your god do that?

 

[FearGod]

Technological impairment. We haven't got to the point technologically where we can produce life from synthetic elements. Yet.

That said, while we can't create entirely new lifeforms from synthetic materials, we can create limbs for people who've lost parts or all of theirs. Why can't your god do that?

That's why God gave us minds, it's like saying why we need to work and feed ourselves,
why not God feeds us.

 

[LuisDantas]

If life wasn't a product done by a creator, then what prevents us from creating it the same way as it has been done by the unconscious nature.

The same thing that kept airplanes and radios away from physical existence for so long: we did not know how to build them yet.

This challenge was offered by God thousands years ago, as to create living creatures, can we?

I'm pretty certain that the challenge, such as it is, comes from theists and not from any god.

 

[FearGod]

The same thing that kept airplanes and radios away from physical existence for so long: we did not know how to build them yet.

While we have knowledge and minds and still we can't create a living creature, but the unconscious nature did it.

I'm pretty certain that the challenge, such as it is, comes from theists and not from any god.

What makes you that certain and sure?

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

That's why God gave us minds, it's like saying why we need to work and feed ourselves,
why not God feeds us.

So in defence of your Kent Hovind challenge, you deploy this cop-out.

 

[FearGod]

So in defence of your Kent Hovind challenge, you deploy this cop-out.

I didn't make the challenge, God made it knowing that we'll never do it.
Don't you see how silly it's when believing that the unconscious nature did it while we claim
that we don't have the knowledge yet to do it?

 

[Kirran]

Where do you draw the line between life and non-life?

 

[FearGod]

Where do you draw the line between life and non-life?

What that question has to do with our ability to create a living creature?

 

[jonathan180iq]

What that question has to do with our ability to create a living creature?

Everything.
You have to declare a dividing line for anything if you want to test it.

 

[jonathan180iq]

It's really amazing that it says that the fly carry a tiny thing, as we know today that the fly carries tiny things with it legs.

Amazing isn't exactly the word I would use for observing a fly carry something, and then writing about it...