Proof of God (Alphabet Found on Butterfly Wings) Photographed by Smithsonian Institute

[FFH]

My computer was not built over the course of billions of years by nature, no. Your point??

Time does not change the equation, nothing comes from nothing, no matter how much time is added to the mix.

And if you can get nothing from nothing, why would god just exist on his own

God (intelligence) and ourselves (intelligences) have always existed, our spirits and our bodies, however, were created to to give form to our intelligence.

 

[FFH]

Nobody says it did. And why does there have to be a designer?

Nothing exists by itself, from randomness, it has to be created, organized, designed, etc.

Nothing exists from nothing...

Rocks/dirt/dust/elements just do form into intelligent creatures by adding time and energy to the equation.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Nothing exists by itself, from randomness, it has to be created, organized, designed, etc.

Again, nobody says it does. But what makes you think it has to be created or designed?

Nothing exists from nothing...

Doesn't mean it was designed.

Rocks/dirt/dust/elements just do form into intelligent creatures by adding time and energy to the equation.

What are you talking about?

 

[ImmortalFlame]

God (intelligence) and ourselves (intelligences) have always existed, our spirits and our bodies, however, were created to to give form to our intelligence.

From nothing?

 

[.lava]

Random evolution or God's art ???

i call that 'art', my friend, an amazing piece of art thank you for sharing

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[Azakel]

It's been awhile FFH. Welcome back to the outside world....

 

[FFH]

From nothing?

Our spirit and physical bodies were created by an intelligent being to give us form and function.

Our intelligence has always existed, but without form.

We could assume possibly, God as an intelligent being (without form) created his spirit body, then his physical body, just as he created our spirit body, then our physical body, to give form to our intelligence.

Intelligence has always existed, which has created all things.

We as intelligent beings have created many things, so it is with God.

 

[hummingbird09]

Butterfly Wing

How is the current modern English in shapes on butterfly wings proof of anything divine? The english language is a rather modern language, wouldn't you think that "God" would use something a little more ancient or divine? And wouldn't this only be a "sign" to people who read and speak the English language? Don't you think "God" would make this sign a little more universal?

 

[hummingbird09]

Evolution is actually not random at all. Its a glorious mix of how random variety fills in the niches of survival possibilities in a beautiful dynamic fractal.

What a beautiful way to describe evolution!

 

[hummingbird09]

There are no defects in a world without death and sin (heaven).

Really?

So we are all white, blonde-haired, blue-eye people without a single defect or anything to set-us apart from each other? Where is the beauty of individuality and uniqueness in that?

 

[T-Dawg]

So, how do images of letters on butterflies give any evidence of any sort of designer, let alone your particular god? With billions of butterflies, it's rather likely to notice familiar patterns in at least a few of them.

By the way, your attempt to label evidence against your position as being from Satan is laughable. If your arguments are going to operate outside the realm of observable, objective reality, why bother?

 

[Sunstone]

If some god wanted to prove himself, why would he resort to sophomoric gags?

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Our spirit and physical bodies were created by an intelligent being to give us form and function.

Our intelligence has always existed, but without form.

If our intelligence always existed, then why couldn't the universe?

We could assume possibly, God as an intelligent being (without form) created his spirit body, then his physical body, just as he created our spirit body, then our physical body, to give form to our intelligence.

All of which he created out of nothing, right?

Intelligence has always existed, which has created all things.

Again, did it create all things out of nothing?

We as intelligent beings have created many things, so it is with God.

Can we create things out of nothing?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Plus is anybody actually impressed by the random appearance of a V or a T?

Yes, I actually am very fascinated by that. Just because our brains are programed to find patterns doesn't make them any less significant. So are you impressed by the Northern Lights, a night sky filled with stars, or a sunset over the ocean? After all, the Northern Lights is just a natural phenomena that is the earth being bombarded with radiation from the sun and the earth's magnetic field interacting with these radiation waves, when you see the stars they are just hanging there miles upon miles away, and the sun just sets everyday and having an ocean around means your just at the beach.
But as awesome as that is, and how the letters are more present and defined than any appearance Jesus or Mary has made on someone's sandwich, we are wired to find patterns like that.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

If some god wanted to prove himself, why would he resort to sophomoric gags?

Hey, he's got to have some fun.

 

[FFH]

Really?

So we are all white, blonde-haired, blue-eye people without a single defect or anything to set-us apart from each other? Where is the beauty of individuality and uniqueness in that?

There is various beauty in different forms/shapes and colors of human beings.

There are different shapes, sizes and colors of people, animals, plants and other things in heaven. Heaven is not a "one size fits all" place.

There are different races, colors, shapes, sizes, sounds, smells, etc. in heaven.

It's not a boring place, but on the contrary, a very DIVERSE place.

 

[FFH]

It's been awhile FFH. Welcome back to the outside world....

Good to see you Azakel, yeah it's been a while, I had to take a break.

 

[hummingbird09]

There is various beauty in different forms/shapes and colors of human beings.

There are different shapes, sizes and colors of people, animals, plants and other things in heaven. Heaven is not a "one size fits all" place.

There are different races, colors, shapes, sizes, sounds, smells, etc. in heaven.

It's not a boring place, but on the contrary, a very DIVERSE place.

To some people those things maybe "defects" so what makes you the judge of what and will be in heaven (i.e. nothing with defects).

 

[Levite]

Meh. If it were really miraculous, they'd be Hebrew letters....

 

[McBell]

There has to be an intelligent designer, nothing comes from nothing.

Thus the problem with your argument "nothing comes from nothing".
Where did god come from?