You titled this thread proof of god. I just see faith. That is not proof at all.
We have to first to agree what it is to prove something exist.
For example, what is it to prove that your nose exists?
And what about what is it to prove dark matter exists?
In both instances there has got to be evidence.
That brings in the question what is evidence?
Okay, what is the evidence that your nose and my nose exist?
The evidence of the nose is that we can touch it, we can see it, we can be aware of its presence.
What about dark matter, what is the evidence for dark matter, for according to astrophysicists it really exists only they don't know what it is exactly in terms of the components making up the material universe.
We have to read the words of astrophysicists on what is their evidence for the existence of dark matter which can be as much as 90 to 99% of the matter in the universe.
[ Source merriam-webster-com-dictionary-"dark matter"] Dark matter - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary ]*
dark matter noun
Definition of DARK MATTER
: nonluminous matter not yet directly detected by astronomers that is hypothesized to exist to account for various observed gravitational effects
There, the evidence for dark matter are the "various
observed gravitational effects" in the universe.
Now, what is the evidence for God in the universe, if we are to use the same method by which astrophysicists come to the evidence for the existence of dark matter?
Here, the evidence for God's existence as the maker of everything in the universe that is not God Himself is the fact that there are things in the universe like our nose and man himself which are subject to origination and annihilation, meaning, therefore there is a maker who gives origin to the nose of man as also man himself, and this maker also takes away the existence of the nose of man as of man himself when the time set for man's departure which he the maker also determined has arrived.
God as defined in His fundamental relation to the universe in the Christian faith is the maker of everything in the universe that is subject to origination and annihilation -- wherefore such an everything could not have made itself, it needs a maker outside itself, and that is God.
Now, atheists will counter with the question, who made God?
So, the question is now into theology of the existence of God.
The answer is God just exists as God from all eternity, He cannot not exist, existence is the default status of God.
As the universe is composed of God and His creation, prior to His creation of everything, God is the totality of existence in the universe, so that God and the universe in that situation prior to His creation of everything in the universe not Himself, God and the universe were convertible.
Now atheists at this point will bring in infinite regress which is an invalid concept, an invalid concept is an idea that cannot have any correspondence to any object in the realm of reality outside of concepts and words in the mind of man, it is like for example a square-circle.
Do you have any evidence for an infinitely regressing object?
What about evidence that God cannot not exist, that existence is Gods default nature and essence.
The fact that there are things in the universe that are subject to origination and annihilation to God, that is the ground for inferring to the nature and essence of God as always existing and therefore He cannot not exist.
At this point, we have all to go into very serious and very fruitful thinking which is in the realm of theology.
Pachomius
*Sorry, can't give the link. not yet qualified until I have completed 15 posts.