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Proof!

th1bill

Member
There is a reoccurring argument that is falsely used by the lost man of the world today against the Christian Community of believers. That is that we use circular logic to arrive at our conclusions and hidden in this statement is the lie that they do not! These false teachers would have everyone to believe that outside of the Bible, there is no reason to believe that Yahweh, God, exists and nothing could be farther from the truth.


There is a book that intimidates Christian and lost man alike, the Baker Encyclopedia of Christian Apologetics. The price is not even a problem if we look for it on line we find a copy at a1books.com for $26.08 at the writing of this article. This work, by Norman Giesler, is the result of forty years of research, on his part. Included is possibly, every extra-biblical reference, available, at this time, to events occurring in the scriptures. There is even documentation for the three hours of night, in the middle of the day, when Jesus was crucified.


The known world, at that time was Europe, Africa and Asia Minor. Both Greek and Roman historians, not present in Israel, recorded the three hour without the Sun making it a "known” world event and not a local event. But I digress!


On the other hand, the believers in Evolution and the Big Bang do exactly what they accuse us of doing. They use their text books to prove that these theories, now remember, please, these are just theories, are the method of creation for the universe and mankind. (Please reread that last sentence slowwwlllyyy! There is no, and I say it with emphasis, no conclusive proof for evolution having ever occurred. What is spoon fed to our young people, as evidence, are examples of fish, butterflies and others adapting to their environment. The Blind Fish is still a fish, he or she just lives in utter dark and does not meed eyes any longer. In the same manor butterflies have demonstrated their ability to adapt to their environment by changing colors, lizards do that every day, here in SE Texas.


And so goes the myth that if man evolved, the universe had it's own origin, independent of God, pure unadulterated Hog Wash! That "belief?” defies everything known in the scientific realm. If you begin with nothing, no matter what you do to it, it remains, nothing. Matter, condensed or expanded, has an origin, God did it!


Christian, get up off your rear end and stand for God!


Atheist, Buddhist, Hindu, Islamic and all the rest of you, study, we will miss you in Heaven if you follow the lies you have chosen.
 

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
The known world, at that time was Europe, Africa and Asia Minor. Both Greek and Roman historians, not present in Israel, recorded the three hour without the Sun making it a "known” world event and not a local event. But I digress!

I would like to see the source of his information. However, if in fact there was three hours without sun, this only proves that the Gospel writers may have incorporated it into the Crucifixion story.


On the other hand, the believers in Evolution and the Big Bang do exactly what they accuse us of doing. They use their text books to prove that these theories, now remember, please, these are just theories, are the method of creation for the universe and mankind. (Please reread that last sentence slowwwlllyyy!
Didn't I already inform you on what a Scientific Theory was?
If not, or if you need reminding, go here...
Scientific Laws, Hypotheses, and Theories - The Scientific Method
The "Just a Theory" argument shows a lack of understanding of Science.
There is no, and I say it with emphasis, no conclusive proof for evolution having ever occurred. What is spoon fed to our young people, as evidence, are examples of fish, butterflies and others adapting to their environment. The Blind Fish is still a fish, he or she just lives in utter dark and does not meed eyes any longer. In the same manor butterflies have demonstrated their ability to adapt to their environment by changing colors, lizards do that every day, here in SE Texas
Actually, all empirical evidence supports the Theory of Evolution.


And so goes the myth that if man evolved, the universe had it's own origin, independent of God, pure unadulterated Hog Wash! That "belief?” defies everything known in the scientific realm. If you begin with nothing, no matter what you do to it, it remains, nothing. Matter, condensed or expanded, has an origin, God did it!
Study some Physics and you will see where you go wrong in the above statement.
Not to mention the bald assertion of "God did it".
BTW, Biological Evolution does not lead to the Universe having it's own origin. Even if God did in fact begin with the rapid expansion and cooling of the universe as shown through Cosmology, it takes nothing away from the overwhelming empirical evidence for the Theory of Evolution.


Christian, get up off your rear end and stand for God!

Good advice, as long as they do not promote ignorance of knowledge of the Universe God created.
Atheist, Buddhist, Hindu, Islamic and all the rest of you, study, we will miss you in Heaven if you follow the lies you have chosen.

Threats of damnation rarely go over very well.
 

th1bill

Member
I would like to see the source of his information. However, if in fact there was three hours without sun, this only proves that the Gospel writers may have incorporated it into the Crucifixion story.



Didn't I already inform you on what a Scientific Theory was?
If not, or if you need reminding, go here...
edited
The "Just a Theory" argument shows a lack of understanding of Science.

Actually, all empirical evidence supports the Theory of Evolution.



Study some Physics and you will see where you go wrong in the above statement.
Not to mention the bald assertion of "God did it".
BTW, Biological Evolution does not lead to the Universe having it's own origin. Even if God did in fact begin with the rapid expansion and cooling of the universe as shown through Cosmology, it takes nothing away from the overwhelming empirical evidence for the Theory of Evolution.




Good advice, as long as they do not promote ignorance of knowledge of the Universe God created.


Threats of damnation rarely go over very well.
You make these broad based claims but offer no support, you cannot fly a helicopter without constant attention and you can't build a case without it either.
 

Engyo

Prince of Dorkness!
Bill - I'm glad you are convinced and I applaud your convictions.

I'm not convinced. I'll stick with what works for me, and I'll see you in the next lifetime when we are both reborn.
 
What an interesting superstition you have there, Bill. You seem convinced, but your being convinced is hardly going to convince anyone else.

One question. If your beliefs are not based in circular logic, how do you know the bible is true if not because it is the word of god, and how do you know god exists if not because the bible tells you so?
 

th1bill

Member
Bill - I'm glad you are convinced and I applaud your convictions.

I'm not convinced. I'll stick with what works for me, and I'll see you in the next lifetime when we are both reborn.
As sad as it is to say it, you're not right, there is one path to heaven and all others lead to eternal damnation.
 

xkatz

Well-Known Member
As sad as it is to say it, you're not right, there is one path to heaven and all others lead to eternal damnation.

I am guessing the only "proof" you have is the Christian Bible?

If you even count that as "proof"
 

th1bill

Member
What an interesting superstition you have there, Bill. You seem convinced, but your being convinced is hardly going to convince anyone else.

One question. If your beliefs are not based in circular logic, how do you know the bible is true if not because it is the word of god, and how do you know god exists if not because the bible tells you so?
Because of ongoing, daily fellowship. You cannot get that from anything but a living being.
 

Engyo

Prince of Dorkness!
Because of ongoing, daily fellowship. You cannot get that from anything but a living being.
OK, how does daily fellowship from living beings prove both the existence of god, and the truth of the bible? That's a connection I haven't heard of before.
 
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