Protestantism leads to atheism

[metis]

I am glad. Because it would have been true regardless

You speak the truth?! Darn, when did you start doing that?

 

[Kirran]

You speak the truth?! Darn, when did you start doing that?

Trying something new.

 

[LuisDantas]

I strongly believe the Protestant rebellion of 1517 and the current Protestant churches have created atheism, by accident because if one denies the real presence in the Eucharist and other miracles such as incuruptable saints the next step eventually is to deny the existence of the resurrection and then Gods existence it self

Atheism is as ancient as the invention of deities, you know.

 

[Nietzsche]

I strongly believe the Protestant rebellion of 1517 and the current Protestant churches have created atheism, by accident because if one denies the real presence in the Eucharist and other miracles such as incuruptable saints the next step eventually is to deny the existence of the resurrection and then Gods existence it self

Which is why atheism didn't exist before the Reformation-


Oh. Wait.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

Atheism is as ancient as the invention of deities, you know.

It was atheist that invented the deities.

 

[LuisDantas]

I think the OP at some level meant to say not so much "atheism" as "the means for wider acknowledgement and social acceptance of atheism".

That is nearly the only way it could make any sense, truth be told.

An interesting and IMO fairly accurate implication would be that for the most part pre-reformation Christianity tended to actively avoid discussing whether people believed in the dogma, as so many do even today.

And that is almost but not quite fair enough. It is reasonable for people to avoid lending too much significance to belief in dogma. But doing so in order to protect a half-false perception of general agreement on that dogma is not all that laudable. It may have been fairly pragmatical in promoting social cohesion back in the day, but it is nonetheless choosing a lie over the truth.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

I strongly believe the Protestant rebellion of 1517 and the current Protestant churches have created atheism, by accident because if one denies the real presence in the Eucharist and other miracles such as incuruptable saints the next step eventually is to deny the existence of the resurrection and then Gods existence it self

I personally think things like "God hates gays" and "You will burn in Hell" have had a greater role in driving people to atheism than the Protestant Church. People are just getting tired of all that dogmatic hate and negativity.

 

[Akivah]

I strongly believe the Protestant rebellion of 1517 and the current Protestant churches have created atheism, by accident because if one denies the real presence in the Eucharist and other miracles such as incuruptable saints the next step eventually is to deny the existence of the resurrection and then Gods existence it self

I doubt it. The Talmud refers to people that don't believe way before Mary was even born. I'm sure no matter how far back you care to go, there have always been people that didn't believe in a higher power.

 

[David T]

I strongly believe the Protestant rebellion of 1517 and the current Protestant churches have created atheism, by accident because if one denies the real presence in the Eucharist and other miracles such as incuruptable saints the next step eventually is to deny the existence of the resurrection and then Gods existence it self

Sort of the pot calling the kettle lack here isn't it?

 

[metis]

I am glad. Because it would have been true regardless

Hey, are you familiar with the former schools within Hinduism that taught no belief in a creator-god?

 

[Spiderman]

Preach it bro!

 

[viole]

I strongly believe the Protestant rebellion of 1517 and the current Protestant churches have created atheism, by accident because if one denies the real presence in the Eucharist and other miracles such as incuruptable saints the next step eventually is to deny the existence of the resurrection and then Gods existence it self

I think it is exactly the contrary.

Insisting in the idea that a wafer can literally turn into the body of a 2000 years old God , if a funny dressed primate (important: with testicles) whispers some latin words, is the real atheists creating machine.

Ciao

- viole

 

[Kirran]

Hey, are you familiar with the former schools within Hinduism that taught no belief in a creator-god?

Yeah, to an extent.

 

[Tiapan]

I think people simply became more logical as the information explosion, initiated by Gutenberg, gave them viable alternates to traditional dogma.

Cheers

 

[LuisDantas]

I think people simply became more logical as the information explosion, initiated by Gutenberg, gave them viable alternates to traditional dogma.

Cheers

I suspect that for the longest time there was little discernible difference between an atheist and a believer.

People simply did not have much time to discuss whether they saw fit to take doctrine as dogma as opposed to inspiration or fable.

Recent centuries made it possible to notice the divergence, but it is a stretch to say that is is a recent development. It just went unnoticed until society gave people enough idle time and room for dogmatism to develop in a recognizable form.

 

[Milton Platt]

I strongly believe the Protestant rebellion of 1517 and the current Protestant churches have created atheism, by accident because if one denies the real presence in the Eucharist and other miracles such as incuruptable saints the next step eventually is to deny the existence of the resurrection and then Gods existence it self

You have gaping holes in your logic....please fill those in.

 

[Milton Platt]

I suspect that for the longest time there was little discernible difference between an atheist and a believer.

People simply did not have much time to discuss whether they saw fit to take doctrine as dogma as opposed to inspiration or fable.

Recent centuries made it possible to notice the divergence, but it is a stretch to say that is is a recent development. It just went unnoticed until society gave people enough idle time and room for dogmatism to develop in a recognizable form.

I haven't uniformly agreed with you on everything, but I like your lucidity (is that a word?) You often state things in a clear and digestible manner when I struggle to do so. I am envious of that talent.

 

[LuisDantas]

I sure feel flattered! Thanks!

 

[siti]

The reformation was a rejection of Papal and priestly authority to determine 'truth', once that cat was out of the bag it was inevitable that more and more people would start thinking for themselves and ultimately (at least some would) reject all religious stupidity. But atheism was around long before @viole 's Latin-whispering, befrocked and betesticled 'Papa' primates began their long line of non-paternal patristic paternalism. 400 years before 'Christ', Socrates was sentenced to death for the crime of 'atheism' (not believing in the gods) - although they didn't call it 'atheism' then but 'impiety' and he denied the charge anyway - but the point is - the idea of 'not believing in the gods' was around long before the RC Church made it so much easier to subscribe to atheism.

 

[Milton Platt]

I sure feel flattered! Thanks!

deserved.....