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Prove it

BruceDLimber

Well-Known Member
The first (and most obvious tests0 would be your "fruits!"

Please note that this would also include your humility or lack thereof.

And as to the present day, the Baha'i scriptures explicitly rule out that possibility for centuries to come!

Bruce
 

Awen

Member
klubbhead024 said:
If I were to come here and say that I am Jesus, is there any way anyone could prove yes or no??

No, but I would ask YOU to prove that you were, since you (albeit hypothetically) claimed to be so.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
klubbhead024 said:
If I were to come here and say that I am Jesus, is there any way anyone could prove yes or no??

I would say that no one could prove it either way. Jesus can do whatever he wants to do, including posting on RF under any of our user names.

Church tradition, if that could be used as a measuring tool to discern whether or not your claims to be Jesus are true or false would certainly IMHO clearly demonstrate that you or anyone else who makes the claim are in fact not Jesus Christ, because you are obviously not doing what the Church says that Jesus Christ will do when he comes back to us.

If Church tradition cannot be used, all other methological processes can be epistemologically questioned to the degree that it would be difficult to ascertain that any claims to any idenity are valid. That is, we get the pathetically stupid claims about perception and reality in the method... are we really online? are you real? etc.
 

adilrockstar

Active Member
klubbhead024 said:
If I were to come here and say that I am Jesus, is there any way anyone could prove yes or no??

When Jesus returns it will be to judge the sin of the world once and for all. So if you aren't flying through the sky on a white horse with a two edged sword coming out of your mouth:eek: ....well I would think you were lying.....:yes:
 

dawny0826

Mother Heathen
I think the only true confirmation would be confirmation given by the Holy Spirit...

When Christ returns...His people will KNOW.
 

Gentoo

The Feisty Penguin
If you truly believe that you are Jesus, then no amount of me or anyone telling you otherwise will do any good. But I would highly suggest that you put your money where your mouth as it's said :) One can't just go around claiming things without backing them up, otherwise you could the following that you already have, if you were Jesus.
 

MaddLlama

Obstructor of justice
adilrockstar said:
When Jesus returns it will be to judge the sin of the world once and for all. So if you aren't flying through the sky on a white horse with a two edged sword coming out of your mouth:eek: ....well I would think you were lying.....:yes:

Jesus is a carnie in shining armor? :eek:
 

lizskid

BANNED
Got me! Neither one of those scenarios is in the Bible, and they sure didn't teach either of them in seminary!
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Technically speaking, I believe that Dawn is correct. Imho, you would just KNOW if the person you were dealing with was "the One". You would FEEL something deep down inside, perhaps in a place you did not know existed within yourself.

That is, of course, providing that He wanted you to notice Him!!!
 

adilrockstar

Active Member
lizskid said:
Got me! Neither one of those scenarios is in the Bible, and they sure didn't teach either of them in seminary!

We must not be reading the same Bible.

What seminary did you attend?

Revelation Chapter 6

And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were beasts saying, Come and see.
And I saw, and beheld a WHITE HORSE: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he wend forth conquering, and to conquer.

Revelation
The Message to the Church in Pergamum

This is the message from the one with the sharp two edged sword



These are just two examples. Believe me my depiction of Christ return is accurate.:yes:
 

Bishka

Veteran Member
adilrockstar said:
Revelation Chapter 6

And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were beasts saying, Come and see.
And I saw, and beheld a WHITE HORSE: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he wend forth conquering, and to conquer.

This no where says that Christ is the personage on the white horse, it says "he that sat upon the white horse." This in no way clarifies this being Christ.

As I've been taught these are the four horses of the apocolypse




adilrockstar said:
These are just two examples. Believe me my depiction of Christ return is accurate.:yes:

We all have different interpretations, and by quoting Revelation a book filled with symbolism you have proved nothing.
 

adilrockstar

Active Member
beckysoup61 said:
This no where says that Christ is the personage on the white horse, it says "he that sat upon the white horse." This in no way clarifies this being Christ.

As I've been taught these are the four horses of the apocolypse






We all have different interpretations, and by quoting Revelation a book filled with symbolism you have proved nothing.

Some believe it is and some believe it isnt. Different interpretation. It is of no real consequence.
 

MaddLlama

Obstructor of justice
What indication does the chapter give you that any of the men on horseback is jesus?

There is a man on a white horse with a bow, a man on a red horse with no weapon, a man on a black horse with a pair of balances, and a pale horse carrying death.

Fist of all, none of these verses indicate any of these men on horseback have a "double edged sword" in thier mouth, nor does it give any indication any of them are Jesus. If this was the way he was returning, you would think they would make it abundantly clear.
 

adilrockstar

Active Member
MaddLlama said:
What indication does the chapter give you that any of the men on horseback is jesus?

There is a man on a white horse with a bow, a man on a red horse with no weapon, a man on a black horse with a pair of balances, and a pale horse carrying death.

Fist of all, none of these verses indicate any of these men on horseback have a "double edged sword" in thier mouth, nor does it give any indication any of them are Jesus. If this was the way he was returning, you would think they would make it abundantly clear.

There are many more scriptures depicting Christ at his return. Later in Revelation 19:11 Christ is describe with the crown. Another scripture tells of the fire in his eyes. Another tells of the sword in his mouth. I didn't want to type and look all of them up. Being lazy.
The main point is that we would KNOW if it was truly Christ.: hamster :
 

Gentoo

The Feisty Penguin
I can't speak for Beckysoup, but when someone says that their interpretation of a book filled with symbolism and countless ways of interpreting it, is both correct and accurate sends up a red flag in my mind.



But to the OP, I stand by my first post on it, nothing that anyone can say is going to deter anyone from truly thinking (at least in their own mind) that they are Jesus Christ. The trouble is getting others to believe along with you, and not winding up in a mental institution.
 
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