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I believe you have not shown that and will not be able to.
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Proved: Prophet Muhammad S.A.W. is mentioned in the Bible
- Thread starter Dawood Ahmad
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rosends
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If I flipped this around, I could say I am showing you that the exact same facts point to my claim that the Koran is corrupted makes sense.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
There have been many who claim to be "prophets" of God, so I'm not sure what you mean by "no new things." How can you explain Joseph Smith who started the Morman Church, just as one example?
leibowde84
Veteran Member
Maybe my questions are being lost in translation. You did not provide any evidence, as you are making huge assumptions. One being the fact that you said that the Bible is not reliable. The second being that the Quraan is an accurate portrayal of God's word, which you have certainly not shown. You are using circular logic, using your proposition, that Muhammad is a prophet and his writing are, thus, accurate, to prove that Muhammad was mentioned as "the Spirit of Truth" in the Bible. This is a logical fallacy, as it is akin to using Bible passages to prove that the Bible is "the Word of God."
Not to mention, you claim that God "is always describing him, sending peace and blessings on him, praising him, etc." But, Muhammad wrote the Quraan, so that obviously is not a good source of objective evidence. So, what outside proof do you have to support this claim?
Just to be clear, using a book written by Muhammad to prove that Muhammad was a prophet is using nothing more than circular logic. It does not do anything to strengthen your claim. You need proof from outside sources, and the Bible should be off limits, as you said yourself that it is 75% unreliable.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
So, you see Muhammad as a liar?
outhouse
Atheistically
But doesn't history show the Koran was plagiarized by people who copied all those mistakes, not knowing it was mythology?
mahasn ebn sawresho
Well-Known Member
yes --i realy of that mohammed is lie when he said he is massenger of god
Yes this is true
Many of evidence
1. The transfer of Mohammed wrote the Jews and the Christians and Alencary
He was working on a big fraud and misleading
2. Mohammed morality is conclusive evidence that he is not a prophet
3. Mohammed's teachings do not belong to God that we know
mahasn ebn sawresho
Well-Known Member
When you want to use a single opponent in the writings of the courts
Governor asks Is recognize that these sources are correct
If you said yes adopt such evidence to prove your invitation
If I do not it's not true
But I only want part of it
Your argument falls evidential
This is the law
My friend
Muslim friend does not recognize the gospel
Only part of your calling ???
Who accepts this logic ???
mahasn ebn sawresho
Well-Known Member
Koran transfer of the Gospel and the Torah , but work on a clear change in the
Added to the Koran and other legends
Including Zulkarnain
The story of Joseph is not identical to the Torah
The birth of Christ is different from the Gospel
Jews worked to tarnish their image
A lot
And also
Saved board in the sky
He myth ?? I do not know how to believe her rights in the twenty-first century ?
Man was able to create a means to save the information which is known today ( and other tablets )
But God has saved backward board ??
Who believes this myth ??
Saved written in the board Adventures Mohammed sex ???
Who is this incredible speech ??
mahasn ebn sawresho
Well-Known Member
1 -sur arranged according to the length of the Koran sura ( short first and then the longest and so on)
Is this how the book considers logical ???
Because the Muslim to read the Koran without a clear sequence
2. Each sura of the Koran which states
These verses not afford consistent in Thread
3. usher in a fence Koranic alphabet letters
Talismans are Muslims does not know the correct interpretation
leibowde84
Veteran Member
I'm not sure what this means.
rosends
Well-Known Member
So skip this one -- can you try to translate the one he wrote to me?
Zulk-Dharma
Member
You shouldn't use the word "proved" here. There exist quite a few other prophets claiming to descent from Jesus prophetic cycle, such as Joseph Smith, Mani, Baha'u'llah and many others. Any follower of these religions would say the verses predict their prophets.
Also, I don't think you know what the Quran meant by saying that the previous books were corrupted.
There were no evil man or men stealing the original Torah and since then made his own copy of it or Jesus traveled to Rome, met Pilate, Pilate then burned the Gospel, killed Jesus and then the Roman Christians demanded to read the Bible and Pilate sent his best authors to imitate the original Gospel from the surviving texts and called it for the first Bible.
These Gospels and Torahs were orally transmitted for many years and since then embellished greatly during the transmission, the original texts were just lost, not "corrupted" or "altered."
Also, I don't think you know what the Quran meant by saying that the previous books were corrupted.
There were no evil man or men stealing the original Torah and since then made his own copy of it or Jesus traveled to Rome, met Pilate, Pilate then burned the Gospel, killed Jesus and then the Roman Christians demanded to read the Bible and Pilate sent his best authors to imitate the original Gospel from the surviving texts and called it for the first Bible.
These Gospels and Torahs were orally transmitted for many years and since then embellished greatly during the transmission, the original texts were just lost, not "corrupted" or "altered."
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leibowde84
Veteran Member
I'm not sure I can translate any of his comments. I am very confused.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
Why? You claimed that Muhammad was the only notable prophet after Jesus. These are examples of other prophets, showing that your claim was false. How is that another debate? It seems like you don't have any evidence to support your claim that Muhammad is referred to in the Bible. Your opinion on the subject seems to be grounded in appreciation for Muhammad, which could cause a bias.
Zulk-Dharma
Member
Hadith are not divinely inspired. Hadith is a gospel, the Gospels of Muhammad. They are eye-witness accounts from Muhammad's contemporaries describing what they've seen Muhammad say or do.
Just like the Gospels of Jesus, there exist apocryphal work and authentic ones, except the Islamic system is based on historical accuracy on how historical an account is than on dogmatic accuracy on including everything giving the prophet a good reputation and deleting everything that's on the contrary.
A Hadith is authenticated by who is reporting the event and how many others report the same event and how similar they all are compared together.
mahasn ebn sawresho
Well-Known Member
1-I wish you to use Google translation from the Arabic and English
2. Muslim friend gave us the words of the Bible to prove the prophethood of Muhammad
3. For this reason, the question posed to a Muslim friend
4. The question is do you believe that the Bible is not distorted and is not in vain
5. The answer is a Muslim friend, 75 and 25 correct invalid
6. Then Wardak was beautiful on this point
7. I studied law
8. In law there are two sides plaintiff and the defendant upon
9. Here, the plaintiff is a Muslim friend
10. The defendant is we Christians
11. Prosecutor's request to prove the Bible prophecy of Muhammad but says he is not right
12. The judge's ruling or fall here the whole case from the beginning for lack of evidence
13. I'm here dropped a lawsuit Muslim friend from the beginning
14. Thus, it must provide evidence to prove another false prophecy of Prophet Muhammad
mahasn ebn sawresho
Well-Known Member
Is this a new theory to challenge the Gospel ???
The Bible is clear in its sources
1. Christ did not write the Bible
2. who wrote the Gospel of Christ's disciples
3. The three of them saw Christ from the beginning of Christianity
The fourth student for pupils
4. The four wrote what they saw and what they heard
5. The four said they wrote the Bible
6. Here Christianity is correct
7. because it unto the Gospel came down from heaven
8. Bible is inspired by God, but in a manner humans
9. words of the Gospel is simple but is considered one of the finest teachings of humanity
10. For this reason, is the word of God also because it does not contradict with our concept of God
mahasn ebn sawresho
Well-Known Member
Your words are not logical
You want to cancel the chatter uttered by Muhammad
1. Why do you want to cancel the talk Muhammad ??
1400 years ago you believe in?
2. What is the reason?
3. You confuse Book reasons verses
And the chatter and this difference does not know many people
4. Each verse of the Holy her reason in descent
5. Book reasons not be able to get off of canceled
6. Because you will not be able to understand the Koran
7. become a big gas ??
8. Well I'll tell you canceled all the talk of Muhammad
9. you will remain a Koran
10. Does the teachings of the Quran alone good ??
11. The Adventures of the Koran Muhammad
12. Koran the teachings of Muhammad
13. It is an intellectual system is very bad ??
Zulk-Dharma
Member
Please, go to an Arabic forum. No one understands what you're saying, you make zero sense to any of us.