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proving homosexuality has a biological cause
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The Neo Nerd
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A persons pupils will dilate when they see something they like, it serves to allow more light onto the retina so they can see it better. This likening may just be of fascination or interest.
The reverse is true of revulsion, the pupils will contract and the person will either close their eyes or look away.
-Q
Think I heard there was an evolutionary explanation for homosexuality, but I am not sure what it is. And it has a future as much as hetrosexuality has a future, otherwise it would not exist.
Gharib
I want Khilafah back
hang on whats with this?
why would you love it if prove i can dettermine who is gay and who is not?
Gharib
I want Khilafah back
there is no such thing, you have been missinformed.
Commoner
Headache
Paranoid much? :areyoucra
Gharib
I want Khilafah back
no. i just don't want to get sucked into something that someone might be planning.
Maybe, I just heard there might be an explanation, something in the lines of the explanation for the cases of altruism we have observed. Too lazy to dig into it more, but there may very well be one.
In any case, if it is natural, normal, is a evolutionary dead end, or if it is a choice does not matter to the morality of it. Homosexuality is amoral, have yet to see anything I would even consider pointing towards something else.
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Commoner
Headache
So, you'd rather not answer, because you think being truthful might hurt your points? I think that tells a lot about the strenght of your position. Not to mention some interesting character attributes.
Gharib
I want Khilafah back
that reverse psychology stuff doesn't work with me. if you want to believe that i can tell who is what, then do so.
Commoner
Headache
gnomon
Well-Known Member
Which are you,
1) A broad and fair skinned Nordic looking Viking mofo or
2) A lean and ebony fleet of foot individual.
Or neither?
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Remember, evolution is simply a change in allele frequency in populations; it's not so much individuals but populations that are important here. Yes, evolution requires reproduction for allele exchange, but if our sole evolutionary goal was to breed then masturbation should've been weeded out by natural selection long ago. It obviously hasn't since we're hardwired to actively experience orgasms; evolution doesn't distinguish between the sex drive and reproduction, and that sex drive is obviously the main driving force.
There's a few ideas floating around as to how homosexuality is consistent in animal populations. Female and male sex amongst antelope and bonobos establishes important bonds that help perpetuate group cohesion which would statistically benefit heterosexual pair bonding and reproduction. So whatever alleles may be involved with homosexuality would be passed on regardless. There's plenty of other ideas on natural selection and homosexuality. Suffice it to say that homosexuals do pass on whatever alleles may be relevant here whether it's helping maintain group cohesion or helping to care for offspring or simply homosexuals having heterosexual sex that results in offspring.
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" im a big fan of the show "lie to me". in the latest episode they have discovered a person's sexual arousal by "blood and guts" by noticing how the person's pupils dilated when these things were mentioned during an interogation. now since its a show, i dont know if this is accurate science, but it does sound reasonable.
this leads me to believe that similar studies could also be conducted for people of different sexual orientations, since many people do not believe homosexuality to be biological but rather a choice.
now, people can certainly lie. but they cant control such things as pupil dilation or other bodily functions/expressions that can only be triggered by honest feelings/emotions.
for example, if you show a self proclaimed homosexual man pictures of naked females followed by naked males, and that individual's heart rate, pupils and other signs(im not an expert)etc. shows little or no arousal towards the females but high or significantly higher arousal towards males, it would prove that homosexuality is genuine attraction, rather than a lie. which would bring us one step closer to solving this issue and educating people on it.
so have you heared of such studies? or has this yet to be done.... i mean, im sure there is someone out there that has conducted the simplest of tests. such as wether or not a homosexual man gets an erection after watching gay vs heterosexual sex.
anyone? "
How could there be a biological necessity to have rectal fissures, anal sphincter damage, and stool incontinece ? In addition, someone could be aroused looking at just about anything because one sight can be associated with memories on many other nearby brain cells. There are changes that are a benefit and changes that are self and other destructive.
this leads me to believe that similar studies could also be conducted for people of different sexual orientations, since many people do not believe homosexuality to be biological but rather a choice.
now, people can certainly lie. but they cant control such things as pupil dilation or other bodily functions/expressions that can only be triggered by honest feelings/emotions.
for example, if you show a self proclaimed homosexual man pictures of naked females followed by naked males, and that individual's heart rate, pupils and other signs(im not an expert)etc. shows little or no arousal towards the females but high or significantly higher arousal towards males, it would prove that homosexuality is genuine attraction, rather than a lie. which would bring us one step closer to solving this issue and educating people on it.
so have you heared of such studies? or has this yet to be done.... i mean, im sure there is someone out there that has conducted the simplest of tests. such as wether or not a homosexual man gets an erection after watching gay vs heterosexual sex.
anyone? "
How could there be a biological necessity to have rectal fissures, anal sphincter damage, and stool incontinece ? In addition, someone could be aroused looking at just about anything because one sight can be associated with memories on many other nearby brain cells. There are changes that are a benefit and changes that are self and other destructive.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Well I think we have yet another example of Eselam just blowing off steam. He cannot support his opinions, he claims to have Gaydar and yet denies the inherent probable implications of having said "feature" and when put to the test refuses to respond. So much for your credibility, Eselam.
Apparently stupidity is also a choice.
Apparently stupidity is also a choice.
Smoke
Done here.
It is? Who sets these goals?
The fact that it continues to occur seems to belie your conclusion.
Rather like women living beyond menopause?
monta
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Wow, RF just gets ****ing stupider by the hour.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Sad, but true. Hopefully we will be able to bring the discussions back out of the single digit IQ level - in time.