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Public displays of affection.

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
:D Well I would not expect you to quit because realistically speaking I could not. But personally if I was given the ability to end all sexuality on earth, I would happily do so. What would you expect an aromantic asexual to say? I do not enjoy eroticism nor intimacy of any kind.
Perhaps I am just too mundane and cynical to enjoy things like you normal sexuall actctive people do :sad:

So, with hookups out of the question, are you up to playing video games together? In public? :cool:
 

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
So, with hookups out of the question, are you up to playing video games together? In public? :cool:

MARRY ME!
*gets on knee and proposes*.
Oh thou gamer girl, shall ye take thy 2nd Playstation 3 controller so ye shall play split-screen with thee forever and ever? :D
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
:D Well I would not expect you to quit because realistically speaking I could not. But personally if I was given the ability to end all sexuality on earth, I would happily do so. What would you expect an aromantic asexual to say? I do not enjoy eroticism nor intimacy of any kind.
Perhaps I am just too mundane and cynical to enjoy things like you normal sexuall actctive people do :sad:

I wouldn't expect you to say that. Why would you expect that everyone should abide by your preferences?

I hate bananas. I can't even stand to smell them. Still, even if I had the power to make them disappear from the face of the Earth, I wouldn't do it. I just don't have them myself.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
It doesn't bother me. I've seen the entirety of the spectrum of PDA, and the most was a brief "OMG, look they're doing it!" reaction. Followed by a little chuckle at the novelty of it. Followed by going about my day or evening.

I realize I'm very much in the minority however.

That's what it really comes down to, in a practical sense, even for children:

Omgosh... we saw someone ****? No one has died from seeing two people have sex. So, in terms, of my priority list, it falls, oh so, very low.
 
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Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
I wouldn't expect you to say that. Why would you expect that everyone should abide by your preferences?

I hate bananas. I can't even stand to smell them. Still, even if I had the power to make them disappear from the face of the Earth, I wouldn't do it. I just don't have them myself.

Well then if you really hate bananas then it should gratify you to know I have been using the filthy things as fertilizer.
My issue with "banning sex" is not my disliking for it but the fact that it seems to be misused. Sex is used to sell products, used needlessly in films and is improperly performed by knuckleheaded teenagers who never heard of contraception. The thought of living in Saudi Arabia just makes me ecstatically overjoyed.

Also....what have bananas done to you for you to hate them so much :areyoucra
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Well then if you really hate bananas then it should gratify you to know I have been using the filthy things as fertilizer.
My issue with "banning sex" is not my disliking for it but the fact that it seems to be misused. Sex is used to sell products, used needlessly in films and is improperly performed by knuckleheaded teenagers who never heard of contraception. The thought of living in Saudi Arabia just makes me ecstatically overjoyed.
Well, then rest assured that I am quite familiar with contraception and I've never been paid to kiss my girlfriend.

So... you think sex has been used in bad ways, therefore all sex everywhere should be abolished. How is this different from when someone does something bad in the name of Islam and decides in response that Islam should be abolished?

I don't see that much distance between "sex is misused, so I don't want to see you kiss in the supermarket" and "those Muslims were terrorists, so I don't want your mosque in my neighbourhood."

Also....what have bananas done to you for you to hate them so much :areyoucra
They just smell and taste awful. Like really, really awful.
 

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
So... you think sex has been used in bad ways, therefore all sex everywhere should be abolished. How is this different from when someone does something bad in the name of Islam and decides in response that Islam should be abolished?

I would not say sex has been used in bad ways. It seems that a majority of people cannot handle sex and use it in distasteful manners. Sex has become more public and open making it appear as more awful than how I already view it. It is more like an over exposed medallion that loses its awe after being seen by everyone.

My fantasy of banning sex is not comparable to the banning of Islam. It is closer to the nature of a child and how he would improperly play with a toy. The child often does not use the toy for its intended purpose and may try to perform hazard actions with it. Very often if a child cannot use the toy at hand properly then the parent will take it away to teach the child a lesson. After the child appears to be remorseful then the toy is given back to him.

That is how I view sex since I feel it is used improperly. Have you seen a Carls .Jr or Hardee's television ad? It qualifies for softcore pornography and has even sparked debate. If sex cannot be kept private and between a couple and not used as a form of propagation as PETA and Hardee's so often does then it should be banned. Mainly the usage of sex in public and lewd acts.

But this is purely a fantasy of mine and I do understand the implications it will have on the world.

They just smell and taste awful. Like really, really awful.

Well you have described my relationship with oranges....... we are a bitter old couple :mad:
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
I would not say sex has been used in bad ways.
You wouldn't? I was just paraphrasing what you said immediately before:

My issue with "banning sex" is not my disliking for it but the fact that it seems to be misused.

It seems that a majority of people cannot handle sex and use it in distasteful manners.
Frankly, it sounds like the person who can't handle sex is you.

Sex has become more public and open making it appear as more awful than how I already view it. It is more like an over exposed medallion that loses its awe after being seen by everyone.
So this is about protecting everyone else, then? What would be wrong with leaving others to treat sex with the regard that they feel is appropriate?

My fantasy of banning sex is not comparable to the banning of Islam. It is closer to the nature of a child and how he would improperly play with a toy. The child often does not use the toy for its intended purpose and may try to perform hazard actions with it. Very often if a child cannot use the toy at hand properly then the parent will take it away to teach the child a lesson. After the child appears to be remorseful then the toy is given back to him.
So an entire population is like a child with one mind? You do realize that the couple you see kissing in public almost certainly had nothing to do with any media depiction of sex that you find offensive, right?

I think this is completely comparable to the banning of Islam. In both cases, a sweeping generalization is made of a diverse group by painting them with a stereotype.

That is how I view sex since I feel it is used improperly. Have you seen a Carls .Jr or Hardee's television ad? It qualifies for softcore pornography and has even sparked debate.
No, I haven't. I'm Canadian; I get some American TV, but not that, apparently.

If sex cannot be kept private and between a couple and not used as a form of propagation as PETA and Hardee's so often does then it should be banned. Mainly the usage of sex in public and lewd acts.
"If Muslims can't stop blowing themselves up, then they don't deserve mosques or to go out in their burqas in public." Is this statement defensible? If not, how is yours?

But this is purely a fantasy of mine and I do understand the implications it will have on the world.
I think it's disturbing that you'd even wish for it.
 

ron4711

Member
My personal opinion on PDA is the same as sex. I view the two as mutual to each other because intimate affection preludes intercourse often so both are measurable to the same standard of perversion. The finality of PDA ends with hugging and holding hands. Kissing, groping, or intimate touching of any kind is not acceptable for me and I strongly dislike having it present in public.
I really do not understand how one can have a lack of shame yet still perform intimate acts in public. Quite baffling

Why should people be ashamed of loving someone? Why do you think kissing leads to intercourse? It does not always, it is but one point along the path. Two people meeting leads to intercourse. Should we ban people from socializing?

But I get it, everyone has their comfort level. Maybe you should examine your comfort level once in a while and ask yourself why do I draw the line there.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
What other people do is not anyone else's business unless they're actually interfering with you in some way. I still don't really understand the need for public display, but it doesn't bother me. As a hetero guy, I don't really understand gays either. (and lots of things like why somebody feels the need to drive a very expensive car) But it sure doesn't bother me.
 

ron4711

Member
The child often does not use the toy for its intended purpose and may try to perform hazard actions with it. Very often if a child cannot use the toy at hand properly then the parent will take it away to teach the child a lesson. After the child appears to be remorseful then the toy is given back to him.

This sound like an instruction manual for teaching a child how to manipulate others. If a child is handling a toy in a dangerous manner, then it is not the toy that is the problem but the behavior. Simply taking the toy away serves no useful purpose other than to anger the child and have them act aggressively with another toy or object. Also requiring remorseful apology is demeaning. Like making the child apologize to aunt Sophie for telling her she has a funny mustache. The child is learning and that in itself is a positive thing.

What the parent needs to do is spend time with their child and reinforce good behavior. It takes time and patience. You cannot demand respect or good behavior, you need to earn one and demonstrate and reward the other.
 

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
You wouldn't? I was just paraphrasing what you said immediately before:

Frankly, it sounds like the person who can't handle sex is you.

How can I not handle sex? Considering the fact I walked out on it immediately means I have no desire for it. It purely annoys me.

So this is about protecting everyone else, then? What would be wrong with leaving others to treat sex with the regard that they feel is appropriate?

Iw ould not in the slightest bit consider it protecting others. Although protecting the innocence of a youth's mind is highly recommended which is why I would not desire to see sex flaunted around carelessly.

Do you believe people have the right to be nude when they desire? Such as in a school? I am merely referring to modesty.

So an entire population is like a child with one mind? You do realize that the couple you see kissing in public almost certainly had nothing to do with any media depiction of sex that you find offensive, right?

I have 2 issues against the openness of sex and media depiction is one of them and PDA is another, I view them as equal. As I mentioned earlier, I do not view the entire world population as a child but it seems to be more prevalent in America.
But this is purely a fantasy of mine and I do understand the implications it will have on the world.

And again, this is purely fantasy and I do understand its negative effects because there are many people who hold the exact same views of modesty as I do. These are my own personal morals and they are shared by many others. You are more liberal it seems in regards to sexuality while I am highly conservative.

I think this is completely comparable to the banning of Islam. In both cases, a sweeping generalization is made of a diverse group by painting them with a stereotype.

Well that is indeed true there :D. I may have stereotyped the whole group because I do tend to lump the entire Democratic and Western society as wholly liberal. I have a personal bias of course but that is expected of everyone.
But what I differ on is saying that sex is being used in a "evil/bad way. I do not view it that harshly and that is why I compared it to childish foolery.

No, I haven't. I'm Canadian; I get some American TV, but not that, apparently.

The commercials consist of scantily clad women, soap, riding bulls, underwear, bikinis and shorts too short to be called shorts.

"If Muslims can't stop blowing themselves up, then they don't deserve mosques or to go out in their burqas in public." Is this statement defensible? If not, how is yours?

I do not intend to ban something for eternity. I view it as corrective behavior and not annihilation.
The same can be said for atheist and how they aggressively try disproving religion, Christians for being fundamentalist who sometimes ruin societal progress (fundamentalist in the US wanted to get rid of government education for example) and Hindus who support the caste system. You can pick dirt on anybody you like and this always emanates from bias. I will not hide my bias because it is rather obvious.

I think it's disturbing that you'd even wish for it.
Coming from me this is not disturbing at all. My happiness is dependent on social absence and and asceticism. I just do not achieve any gratification from the things most people enjoy.
 

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
Why should people be ashamed of loving someone?
Nobody should be ashamed of loving someone, but they should be ashamed of performing lewd acts in public.

Why do you think kissing leads to intercourse? It does not always, it is but one point along the path.

Of course kissing does not always lead to intercourse but I view it as publicly indecent. I am referring to "intimate kissing" not the smooches we often see. This happens too often with teenagers where I am it is annoying.

Two people meeting leads to intercourse. Should we ban people from socializing?

Of course socializing can lead to itnercourse, but why do you want tha intercourse to be in public? Shouldn't it not be at home in privacy? Why on earth would you want such a thing to occur in public?

But I get it, everyone has their comfort level. Maybe you should examine your comfort level once in awhile and ask yourself why do I draw the line there.

:facepalm: I am a guy who walked out on coitus, I am obviously not into sex and considering the amount of offers for a possible relationship I have turned down I am not very romantic either.
has it not occurred that some people have better things to do? :D. I am not saying that romantic relationships are bad they are just not for me and I do not want to see the intimate details of them in public along with eroticism.
 

ron4711

Member
:facepalm: I am a guy who walked out on coitus, I am obviously not into sex and considering the amount of offers for a possible relationship I have turned down I am not very romantic either.
has it not occurred that some people have better things to do? :D. I am not saying that romantic relationships are bad they are just not for me and I do not want to see the intimate details of them in public along with eroticism.

I guess I don't understand. My first reaction is to say what's wrong with you or what happened to you, but I guess you probably have heard that. People are different for their own reasons, so I respect your views. This does not mean I understand or agree with them.

So when you say you disapprove of one thing or another, because you are conservative or it doesn't make you feel good you are not explaining the reasons just your emotional reaction.
 
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Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
I guess I don't understand. My first reaction is to say what's wrong with you or what happened to you, but I guess you probably have heard that. People are different for their own reasons, so I respect your views. This does not mean I understand or agree with them.

Some people like the same sex, some people like fur, some people like animals, and some like latex. I honestly do not understand why it is hard to believe that there are some people who dislike all the above.
I don't expect anyone to understand me or agree with me. I am obviously not friendly towards sexuality of any kind and I am always going to display my bias. All that is needed to be known is that I do not hold the same views as everyone else and I thank you for being respectful about that.
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
Sterling Archer said:
:facepalm: I am a guy who walked out on coitus, I am obviously not into sex and considering the amount of offers for a possible relationship I have turned down I am not very romantic either.
has it not occurred that some people have better things to do?

I'm sorry Dr. Sheldon Cooper, I never realised you were on RF! :D


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Oh and for the record:
How can I not handle sex? Considering the fact I walked out on it immediately means I have no desire for it. It purely annoys me.
Sounds to me like you can't handle sex. That's not intended as an insult by the way.
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
It can be exciting, exhiliarating, freeing, and novel. Obviously, these aren't necessarily strong motivating factors for everyone - particularly individuals who are very constrained, neurotic, fearful, or inhibited.

This is quite telling.
 

jonman122

Active Member
I rather like PDAs myself, including watching them. I suppose the line is when I feel I should be invited.

I was going to say the same thing, people start getting a little touchy when I pull out the video camera, set up the tripod and get a good angle but..

Really I don't mind people doing it at all. To each their own?
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
MARRY ME!
*gets on knee and proposes*.
Oh thou gamer girl, shall ye take thy 2nd Playstation 3 controller so ye shall play split-screen with thee forever and ever? :D

Get a good game and you're on. :D

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Don't feel too bad about the questions. I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum, that for me sex is my favorite thing in the world. I've even contemplated frequently how the orgasm is the physical and mental equivalent to enlightenment.

FWIW, I don't think you're a bad person for your asexuality. You know yourself and your personal boundaries, and you live your life.
 
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