Public Indecency, Yes or No

[dust1n]

Try putting yourself in her situation: if a bloke approaches and basically says "suck my dick?" then I think it's fairly safe to assume he's a potential threat. Better safe than sorry.

Sure, it's fair to assume he's a potential threat. If someone hells "hey douche-bag" at me, I assume there's a potential threat.

But no threat is being made there.

Next thing I'll know, ten-thousand people will be arrested for saying "kiss my ***."

 

[Aquitaine]

Sure, it's fair to assume he's a potential threat. If someone hells "hey douche-bag" at me, I assume there's a potential threat.

But no threat is being made there.

Next thing I'll know, ten-thousand people will be arrested for saying "kiss my ***."

Meh, she felt threatened and called the police. Who knows - maybe she has a history of being sexually harassed or assaulted, maybe she thought he'd return and that she's better off "nipping it in the bud" before it escalates?

So the next time he thinks of doing somthin' like that again, maybe he'll think twice. I'm honestly not sympathetic towards him in this scenario.

 

[dust1n]

Meh, she felt threatened and called the police. Who knows - maybe she has a history of being sexually harassed or assaulted, maybe she thought he'd return and that she's better off "nipping it in the bud" before it escalates?

So the next time he thinks of doing somthin' like that again, maybe he'll think twice. I'm honestly not sympathetic towards him in this scenario.

I don't blame her for calling the police. But the guy didn't break a public indecency law, unless there is some sort of applicable city or county law or something.

 

[Aquitaine]

I don't blame her for calling the police. But the guy didn't break a public indecency law, unless there is some sort of applicable city or county law or something.

To be honest I'm not really focusing on the part where he was charged. Personlly, I think being told off by the cops would be sufficient.
I'm still not going to blame the woman in this scenario for calling the police.

 

[Skwim]

Try putting yourself in her situation: if a bloke approaches and basically says "suck my dick?" then I think it's fairly safe to assume he's a potential threat. Better safe than sorry.

Because every guy who asks for oral sex is a potential threat. Should we assume then that you've never been a potential threat? Or have all the women you've had oral sex with begged to do it to you? Yeah sure. Or maybe you're an oral sex virgin. Yup that's it . You're an oral sex virgin. Aquitaine is an oral sex virgin. :kissbette

 

[columbus]

I don't blame her for calling the police. But the guy didn't break a public indecency law, unless there is some sort of applicable city or county law or something.

If the law included "solicitation for sex" then he did break the law. If the law doesn't, I suggest improving it.

Tom

 

[Twilight Hue]

If the law included "solicitation for sex" then he did break the law. If the law doesn't, I suggest improving it.

Tom

I don't know if he offered money or not to the woman. Im not sure a solicitation charge would apply.

 

[dust1n]

If the law included "solicitation for sex" then he did break the law. If the law doesn't, I suggest improving it.

Tom

As far as I'm aware, an unwanted sexual advance is not against the law, regardless how much in bad taste or deplorable it is. And thank goodness it's not. Too many females would be in jail if I reported any of 'em.

 

[dust1n]

To be honest I'm not really focusing on the part where he was charged. Personlly, I think being told off by the cops would be sufficient.
I'm still not going to blame the woman in this scenario for calling the police.

I thought that was the purpose of the OP, the actual charge.

I don't blame anyone for anything.

 

[Skwim]

As far as I'm aware, an unwanted sexual advance is not against the law, regardless how much in bad taste or deplorable it is. And thank goodness it's not. Too many females would be in jail if I reported any of 'em.

Yup.

Question: What Is the Crime of Solicitation?

Answer: Solicitation is the offering of compensation for goods or services that are prohibited by law.
source

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In the case on Cops no mention was made of any compensation.

 

[Aquitaine]

Because every guy who asks for oral sex is a potential threat. Should we assume then that you've never been a potential threat? Or have all the women you've had oral sex with begged to do it to you? Yeah sure. Or maybe you're an oral sex virgin. Yup that's it . You're an oral sex virgin. Aquitaine is an oral sex virgin. :kissbette

I've certainly never approached a stranger and asked them for Oral Sex, or Sex of any kind.

How could the woman in this scenario be assured that he wasn't going to return and continue harassing, or even take things further? There must've been 100's of potential unpleasant outcomes going through her mind, and she decided to call the cops for some safety.

So a jerk gets bollocked for it, and most likely won't ever do it again. Surely it's a good thing in relation to this specific incident?

 

[Aquitaine]

I thought that was the purpose of the OP, the actual charge.

I don't blame anyone for anything.

Fair enough.

To be honest, I'm not really fussed by the outcome of this specific incident. I doubt it's going to have any negative consequences for the liberty of Americans in general. I wouldn't worry about it.

 

[dust1n]

I've certainly never approached a stranger and asked them for Oral Sex, or Sex of any kind.

How could the woman in this scenario be assured that he wasn't going to return and continue harassing, or even take things further? There must've been 100's of potential unpleasant outcomes going through her mind, and she decided to call the cops for some safety.

Calling the cops is a good way to get assurance. But it doesn't necessarily mean the cops should arrest people for crimes that are applicable to the situation.

So a jerk gets bollocked for it, and most likely won't ever do it again. Surely it's a good thing in relation to this specific incident?

I don't generally find it a good thing for cops to arrest people without good cause.

 

[Skwim]

I've certainly never approached a stranger and asked them for Oral Sex, or Sex of any kind.

How could the woman in this scenario be assured that he wasn't going to return and continue harassing, or even take things further? There must've been 100's of potential unpleasant outcomes going through her mind, and she decided to call the cops for some safety.

So a jerk gets bollocked for it, and most likely won't ever do it again. Surely it's a good thing in relation to this specific incident?

I can only guess what "bollocked" means, but if it means arrested, then no. People should never be arrested for breaking laws that don't pertain to their behavior. Evidently you do.

 

[Aquitaine]

Calling the cops is a good way to get assurance. But it doesn't necessarily mean the cops should arrest people for crimes that are applicable to the situation.



I don't generally find it a good thing for cops to arrest people without good cause.

Of all the examples of people being arrested without good cause, there are waaay more pressing cases where it's scandelous and unjust. I'm really surprised why so many people seem to be almost defending this guy, or rather his "right" to ask strangers if they'll suck him off.

Honestly, I'm not fussed or bummed-out about there being ramifications put on me if I were to go around doing that to strangers. It ain't gonna put a damper on my day. :beach:

 

[columbus]

[QUaren't kwim;3954714]Because every guy who asks for oral sex is a potential threat. Should we assume then that you've never been a potential threat? Or have all the women you've had oral sex with begged to do it to you? Yeah sure. Or maybe you're an oral sex virgin. Yup that's it . You're an oral sex virgin. Aquitaine is an oral sex virgin. :kissbette[/QUOTE]

We aren't talking about every guy. I like oral sex and can be demanding. But never with strangers in public. NEVER We are talking about a guy who has.

I'm no threat to anybody. What you don't seem to grasp is the difference between a threat and an event. A threat is a potential for an event. And events that aren't terribly damaging, but pose a threat are often illegal. Sometimes they are cause for arrest and investigation.

Often that prevents really bad events. I'm good.

Tom

 

[Aquitaine]

I can only guess what "bollocked" means, but if it means arrested, then no. People should never be arrested for breaking laws that don't pertain to their behavior. Evidently you do.

Of all the examples to rally behind.......

 

[columbus]

I can only guess what "bollocked" means, but if it means arrested, then no. People should never be arrested for breaking laws that don't pertain to their behavior. Evidently you do.

If somebody were standing near your home pointing an RPG at your place you want everyone to wait until an actual law has been broken to involve the cops?

Tom

 

[dust1n]

Of all the examples of people being arrested without good cause, there are waaay more pressing cases where it's scandelous and unjust. I'm really surprised why so many people seem to be almost defending this guy, or rather his "right" to ask strangers if they'll suck him off.

Sure, there are plenty of false guilty charges to be concerned with. A culture of making exceptions for specific cases were appropriate conditions for convicting someone aren't present is basically the problem with false guilty charges.

Honestly, I'm not fussed or bummed-out about there being ramifications put on me if I were to go around doing that to strangers. It ain't gonna put a damper on my day. :beach:

I wouldn't recommend being a lawyer then.

 

[dust1n]

If somebody were standing near your home pointing an RPG at your place you want everyone to wait until an actual law has been broken to involve the cops?

Tom

Wow, talk about hyperbole.